when im finished with it, it will be faster than a s3
when im finished with it, it will be faster than a s3
15.24 1/4 mile is not quick
your oettinger map is not one of the most potent out there..
3 days old is irrelevant to the adaption
good 0-60 for sure given the low 1/4, and terminal speed (which you did'nt post)
are you pitching your a3 2wd against being better than the 4wd cousins?
bizarre pitch..
4wd is heavier than 2wd, but to a point 4wd will make better use of the higher power levels, wet or dry.
Geez, why don't people actually read what is written!
The 3 days point was relevant to me as the driver (as I said) and the limited time I had not to the actual map itself, and I am certain this is why the 0-60 wasn't bad, but the 1/4 wasn't great.
I am not pitching anything, and did I say anything about being better or not? The question by the OP was how to get the car to go quicker.
I will state for a fact that a chipped A3 will keep up and can move away from a standard S3 when rolling and I have done the same with chipped S3's as well. On the move getting the power down is not a problem for the A3 and the losses from a 4WD system (25-30% vs 13-15% typically) plus the weight manage to balance things out....which you seem to have overlooked.
If I had had the cash when I bought my A3 all them years ago then there would have been no doubt that I would have taken the S3 for many reasons. However you work with what you've got which in the OP's case is an A3, and personally no I would not put a big turbo kit on a FWD car, but some minor mods can bring the car close to an S3.
At 1animal1 the question was not about road use but in relation to Badger5 and 1/4 mile, and agree on the road clutches don't become a defining factor.
At no point did I say anything was better than something else, or talk about the A3 being better than the S3, so I don't know why you are so anti.
Badger I'm sorry but did I not say this "which was not bad at all as I wasn't used to the new map at all" in my first post. Which was not refering to the map, but to me, was it not?! You say you know something then why do you argue with the facts in this case of power, drivetrain loss and weight?
Nothing in your posts provides anything of basis so how would one know that you know about power to weight etc?
Geez, why don't people actually read what is written!
The 3 days point was relevant to me as the driver (as I said) and the limited time I had not to the actual map itself, and I am certain this is why the 0-60 wasn't bad, but the 1/4 wasn't great.
I am not pitching anything, and did I say anything about being better or not? The question by the OP was how to get the car to go quicker.
I will state for a fact that a chipped A3 will keep up and can move away from a standard S3 when rolling and I have done the same with chipped S3's as well. On the move getting the power down is not a problem for the A3 and the losses from a 4WD system (25-30% vs 13-15% typically) plus the weight manage to balance things out....which you seem to have overlooked.
If I had had the cash when I bought my A3 all them years ago then there would have been no doubt that I would have taken the S3 for many reasons. However you work with what you've got which in the OP's case is an A3, and personally no I would not put a big turbo kit on a FWD car, but some minor mods can bring the car close to an S3.
At 1animal1 the question was not about road use but in relation to Badger5 and 1/4 mile, and agree on the road clutches don't become a defining factor.
At no point did I say anything was better than something else, or talk about the A3 being better than the S3, so I don't know why you are so anti.
Hi, your point on the transmission loss on the s3 is wrong. Weight, yes, S3 heavier, transmission loss irrelevant, as it is driving two sets of wheels only under certain load circumstances. Haldex will quite often be near 90% fwd and in this situation, the transmission loss of the rear wheels is only 10% of the total for the front, so a couple of % or so.
Badger, sorry but the picture simply suggests you race a car nothing else to me, but obviously then I must take everything you say as gospel?!! How can you say something is valid yet pointless, when it is directly related to the discussion.
I now remember why this place had such a high turnover of members.
be good for Glen to confirm any of this info..... if infact it is correct, although i still stand by what i say based on my own experiences, the A3 mapped or not would NOT move away from a standard or mapped S3 mid range or not
judging someone by post count is'nt going to tell you anything other than how much time he wastes on a particular forum. SCN is where i spend most of my time and the post count there is >23,600
and what does that mean?
cant imagine at all.... what with people like you around... its amazing.
We'll agree to disagree on that, as I thought the power was 80-20 front rear bias, and still there is loss just from driving more components.
The golf is heavier than the A3 albeit marginal, and certainly when my A3 had 40,000 miles on the clock, it could outpace S3's and that was with minor changes. I saw 255 km/h on the climate control which showed on the GPS as 244km/h (151.6 mph) on the Autobahn, but boy did it take a while to get there, and the joy was short lived as one of the guys in a chipped S8 came stonking past at 278-280 km/h.
You say your Golf is not as quick as your 225 S3, but with 241hp, 2WD (Yes less power loss) and significant weight difference, then I guess you mean from a standing start, because everything else would say your golf would be a bit quicker once moving.
The S3 is a better platform without doubt than the A3, but you work with what you've got and I guess these days with the prices of the S3 being where they are it would be difficult to justify spending the moeny on substantial mods for an A3 and simply not changing it for the S3.
Badger, sorry but the picture simply suggests you race a car nothing else to me, but obviously then I must take everything you say as gospel?!! How can you say something is valid yet pointless, when it is directly related to the discussion.