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I do understand the points you make but.... I've seen it quite a few times when people have searched first, they just don't mention it in their opening post, and then they get the usual replies.
In your defense I have seen friendly replies/requests to search first, but I have seen many which are a bit sarcastic or lecturing.
Also, when searching for info, the more common the question is, the higher the number of results you get. And a lot of the those results aren't actually answering the question, they maybe just contain the words you have searched for.
Then I think people just go for the quick option and ask the question, rather than reading through 100's of posts which might not give them the answer they are looking for.
When they get told to "search first", they are then presented with a dilema..... do I accept the unjustified request? Do I explain that I have already searched and maybe get a thumbs up or maybe a "search harder" reply?
And all the time the original question/answer is moving further from focus.
For me this "searching first" is just one example.
The same sort of thing happens with people's grasp of written English. Yeah some people are lazy, others just can't type that well for some genuine reason or another. But they all seem to get bundled together as chavs and then get gunned down. Or are publicly questioned, which I don't agree with.
whats wrong with that question auroan he obviously has an opionion and i want to know why .... what you after brownie points
whats wrong with that question auroan he obviously has an opionion and i want to know why .... what you after brownie points
I agree that the search facility doesn't alway bring up the right results, especially for a noob. That's why I'll post the pertinant results if I can. Normally because I know a thread in particular that I think would be useful and answers the question.
There's no easy fix though, sometimes answers to questions take input from a lot of different people and if that question already has been answered then the best way is to read that thread. I see it as a bit of a duty to try to find those old threads and link them for others. If we all do that when we can it'll help massively.
When it comes to the whole spelling grammar thing it's a touchy subject. My point of view is that if you live in Britain and and speak English you should try to learn how to use it properly. I myself am always trying to learn when it's right to use one word instead of another, the other day, for example, I learned the difference between accept and eccept.
Some find it harder than others and that's fine. I just wish people would try more. It doesn't wind me up though, I don't get in a complex about it. Apart from with my Polish step mum. She's lived in England for 26 years and her English is worse than my girlfriend's, who was born in Poland, moved to Germany when she was 6 and learned English in a classroom.
It's the way you have asked the question to ess_three mate that's the problem. It comes across like you're say "You got a f*cking problem mate or what?!". auroan is demonstrating that you're doing exactly what gets peoples backs up, you're being inflammatory for no reason. And you're response to his response is even more so!
Can I just hijack this thread for a minute to ask a few questions......
1) Should I buy a fake ebay vagcom cable??
2) Which is better... diesel or petrol engines???
3) canyouallreadwhatiamwriting????
I dont understand why, it wasnt meant to be like that .... He made a comment and i wanted to know why thats all..... for gods sake
I am a second time round member here on A-SN.
I joined up a couple of years ago, along with RS246 as I wanted to see what the Audi forums had to offer seeing that I was now driving one. I have been a member of one other car forum, SEATCUPRA.net for 6+ years since picking up my 1st LCR in 2003 so I'm fairly 'forum aware'.
If I am brutally honest, when I first joined AS-N and RS236 back in 2007, I tended to find things a bit slow on both sites. What banter there was, was in some cases 'agitated' by 'forum clicks', and I was a little surprised by some of the arrogant attitudes and overly opinionated manners that were displayed. And should you DARE to openly criticize the mighty 4 rings you were in for a bit of a web-flogging!
On that point, back in '07 I went on RS246 and I was comparing notes with someone about UK tuners and this long term 'member' joined the thread (owned a Rover 214Si it transpires) launched at me saying I only had 19 posts, and I've come on here thinking I know f*king everything etc.... (I'm sure you've all encountered one!), at which point I elaborated that at nearly 35 years old, just because I have 19 posts on one forum doesn't negate personal experience and accrued opinions, and was he implying my 16 years of active modding was eradicated due to my paltry 19 posts on the mighty RS246 forum? There's one on every forum, and that day I got a handful of abusive posts until he realised that as I wasn't going to retaliate with anger he had no mileage and it died of death. I won't engage in that crap as I like to think I'm as professional when I represent myself online as I am if you conduct real world business with me. Just because I can hide behind a web persona doesn't give me free range to be a total @-hole. People don't tend to read T&C's so despite the best effort to get people to read forum conduct rules, people will come on to these forums and vent, express and sound off as they wish. When you think your opinion is more important than the forum rules I personally think like on SCN I/you/whoever should be warned and then banned.
Yes I will remorselessly take the p1$$ with the best of them, but there is no need for dis-respect or playground antics as it ruins the forum, the free flow of decent information dries up, and the mods efforts to keep the site up, running and in check are also wasted. We should be grateful for the time and effort they give and abide by the minimum standards they set. We're adults, not a pack of imbeciles (maybe idots !). The content of a forum ultimately defines it and it's members, and SEATCUPRA.net have a great rapport with SEAT UK. This relationship facilitates interaction, news, previews, BTCC parking etc., but if a forum is seen as a load of unruly mouths you've got no chance of getting this kind of mutual respect with a manufacturer. Given all the troubles we have had with Audi's of late maybe it is something to consider working towards as knowledge is power, and in numbers we have strength to take issues to Audi as they assume we are all oblivious isolated paying *******.
I'm glad this thread has come up. Occasionally it is good for a bit of self reflection. I know it can seem a bit Draconian going on about grammar, rules, conduct etc, but if you are here for a fight then go down the local pub at closing time. If you want to share knowledge and experience then it is best we use the limited available space for useful content rather than a load of old $hit.
Personally I think the crowd on here are in the main pretty decent. There are a one or two who think their opinions stand above anyone else's, but then that's real life. I'm encouraged that there seem to be less people on here now who can't say a bad word against Audi, so in light of that with the balance or reality shifting I'm grateful to come here.
P.S. I prefer "Getting shafted in all four rings" LOL!!
Carefull what you wish for.... have you seen his surname?!?!
I've been married for years, so I can barely remember what goes where. He's got no worries!
why's that then essthree you got a problem with me to just because i miss i few caps offs or is it because i have a laugh now and again....
Says you who just went on at me for no reason....
Pee off mate your just trying to get me to argue i dont wana know ....
It was a simple question i just wanted a simple answer and you are trying to turn it into something it isnt ....
thanks that's great ..... im glad you pointed that out anything else to say ..my english stinks, im and idiot ,insulting ...
Actually I have two.
1. The blatent way you choose no put no effort into your posts by way of punctuation and basic grammar, despite being asked politely to do so. It's not about bad spelling - we all do it - but just a general lack of effort.
Think you could be wrong here. A bit unfair.
I remember seeing this argument thrashed out in another thread, and from what I can remember blazin gave reasons for his typing. Not that I think he should of had to.
And if those reasons are genuine, which i'm sure (and hope) they are, it must be really frustrating for him to have people saying "make more of an effort" etc etc.
Can I put a picture of a big fat woman up now?
What i want to know is......do any of you lot actually do any work!!
What i want to know is......do any of you lot actually do any work!!
You are welcome to think what you want...
I know his reasons...
All we - the Mods ask - is that people try. Us not trying to enforce it will have this place down at the Saxo Forum/Corsa Forum in no time...so forgive us/me if I'd rather that not happen.
We/I can live with poor grammar or spelling if people try...but combined with blatent Thread spoiling and generally insulting behaviour backed up by a bad attitude is enough to warrant a comment, in my book.
Can we move on now?