I didnt say that
GET OUT AND ENJOY REAL LIVING!!
Go take your kid to the park and watch his face light up whilst your pushing him on the swings. Go visit your gran and take her shopping!
Do something that makes you realise its theres more to life than just being miserable with your lot. ITS PATHETIC!
Rant over
Or have a ****..??
Some of the long serving and highly regarded members have either stopped coming on so much or moved to vagoc .
I have not see Benskin07 thread you refer to.... is it deleted? If not post the link
I've not seen you over there yet Staz - any reason ?
Is that regards to my English staz i try i really do....I think its fine on here apart from the nastiness... Is it wrong to have a laugh now .... And if people move to other sites because of someones English then that's just snobbery.. Ive just been on vag com and its very boring no laughs at all its all tally hoe on there.. And a lot of the threads on there are on here plus its not as well set up ...There's a nice mix of people from all backgrounds on here which respect each other bar some disagreements we wouldnt be men if we didn't that's how wars start but moving to another thread because of new members is sad ..... Reminds me of a workin mens club
That's just one of the many problems though and to be honest I'm still a bit hungover so I'm outta here.
Is that regards to my English staz i try i really do....I think its fine on here apart from the nastiness... Is it wrong to have a laugh now .... And if people move to other sites because of someones English then that's just snobbery.. Ive just been on vag com and its very boring no laughs at all its all tally hoe on there.. And a lot of the threads on there are on here plus its not as well set up ...There's a nice mix of people from all backgrounds on here which respect each other bar some disagreements we wouldnt be men if we didn't that's how wars start but moving to another thread because of new members is sad ..... Reminds me of a workin mens club
i personally havnt really seen much rudeness or idiotic behaviour, i may just be oblivious to it but im pretty certain im not, the only time i have seen someone be rude is when someone was asking us about what VAGcom cable to use n we said get it off rosstech n he started going mad at us all. i agree with 10blazin that this is a nice site cos we all get on well and can have a laugh n joke about n thats all it is, we dont mean any offence about it, were all here to help one n other, if there is idiotic attitude, tell em, n hopefully they will appologise. i know i would, i just dont want to see this site ending up like tyresmoke or vwaudiforum where it is really dull n slow for people to respond. all the jokin about on here should just be taking lightly on the shoulder. we will have a laugh, n if it is a serious point then we will all do our best to help. i know i have had a few probs, people jokin around, but at end of the day, my problem was solved by people on here helping me, which i find really gratefull! so im more than happy to put up with a few jokes.
i know what ur saying tho, that there is no need to get short tempered or anything over here, cos its only a website, n the person i spoke about earlier, had their post deleted n the mods told him to chill out basically!
thats what i think anyway!
I don't think anyone left ASN due to peoples English.
Speaking for myself here (Ess_Three - I'm sticking my neck out here, but please consider this asn useful feedback).
I become involved in vagoc.co.uk simply down to the fact threads that should have become interesting and engaging discussion, deteriorated rapidly in to bitchiness on here.
I appreciate moderating is a thankless task, but at the time the 8P section was one of the busiest areas and had developed a bit of a community feel.
Also - this 'was' an 8P owners area..... therefore it was full of people who owned that car, their pride and joy. It was an opportunity to share stories, projects and issues.
Yet over time the moment someone suggest their car or modifications have enhanced the car in to a real super car chaser or RS4 beater, that person then get's ridiculed by people who no longer have the car, or have never owned that specifc model of car.
I'm all for 'debate', but the arguments become open and shut cases.
vagoc may not be blazin's cup of tea and that is his opinion and it's not there to become a new ASN - it's simply an alternative.
Ess_Three - I hope things do start to improve - and if you're unhappy with any of the above, drop me a PM and I'll edit.
J
I remember that thread about vagcom. And I remember thinking at the time that the guy was a bit harshly treated by people. I think he was new, asked the question, and got jumped on a bit from most angles.
And once it turns into an argument no one backs down.
I think the problem is.... misunderstandings are very easily made when reading text on a screen. Something said in one way can easily be taken in another way.... and then the fireworks start.
I can see that you do! I can also see that you are semi literate. You should try to use some form of punctuation, it makes reading you're banal statements a little more interesting. Also, have a point to your replies! Don't just keep repeating the same old diatribes. I also realise you have probably had a modest upbringing, going to the local comprehensive, shopping at tesco's, drinking cider on the park bench! As such I'm willing to make allowances for that.
i personally havnt really seen much rudeness or idiotic behaviour, i may just be oblivious to it but im pretty certain im not, the only time i have seen someone be rude is when someone was asking us about what VAGcom cable to use n we said get it off rosstech n he started going mad at us all. i agree with 10blazin n aythree that this is a nice site cos we all get on well and can have a laugh n joke about n thats all it is, we dont mean any offence about it, were all here to help one n other, if there is idiotic attitude, tell em, n hopefully they will appologise. i know i would, i just dont want to see this site ending up like tyresmoke or vwaudiforum where it is really dull n slow for people to respond. all the jokin about on here should just be taking lightly on the shoulder. we will have a laugh, n if it is a serious point then we will all do our best to help. i know i have had a few probs, people jokin around, but at end of the day, my problem was solved by people on here helping me, which i find really gratefull! so im more than happy to put up with a few jokes.
i know what ur saying tho, that there is no need to get short tempered or anything over here, cos its only a website, n the person i spoke about earlier, had their post deleted n the mods told him to chill out basically!
thats what i think anyway!
The Mods can't read every post...there are too many.
We spend as much time as we can doing just that...which is why you find the likes of me posting in the 8P section...but things get missed.
I have no problem missing threads...but if a thread goes pear-shaped and people start getting hacked off and insulting people, others get offended (it also breaks the rules) and we - the Mods - get notified.
By then it's too later...we - the Mods - have to act.
So warnings get handed out and posts editied/deleted.
It's particularly bad from new users...
They join up, ask a question, don't get an answer NOW, get hacked off, start swearing and insulting others...so they get banned.
No need for it...if people would just chill out and see how the place rubs along.
I don't know how other Forums are run or what sort of language is tolerated...but on here, you stick to the rules, or you don't come back. Siiiiimples.
If a user gets warned they will be contacted by a Mod...their response dictates whether they get banned.
Have a pop at a moderator and it's bye bye.
Take in in good grace, calm the f**k down and reflect...and all is well.
IMO I think that some people on here take it all a bit too seriously.
I have noticed a handful of regulars on here that are quite knowledgable on most things to do with Audi's, but appear to see this as a right to lecture and be slightly short with other people.
It's almost like they see it as their duty to try and "school" people on how to use this forum.
I know people will say that it's done to try and keep things running smoothly, but most of the time the resulting argument ends up making things more "messy"!!
The amount of times I have seen a new member ask a question and then receive loads of replies telling him to "stop being lazy" and to "search first before asking". Or receive loads of sarcastic replies.
The new member then goes on to say they have already searched but couldn't find a straight answer to their question.... then they get told to search properly.... and then a battle commences!
I've even seen people getting "told off" for including a quote after what they've typed, instead of before!!
Basically, I just don't think adults take well to being told what to do by other adults. Especially ones they don't know or have never seen. And I can understand that.
It hasn't happened to me....yet! Probably because I start most of my threads declaring that "I have already searched the site". Should I really have to do this to avoid an onslaught from these lecturing few???
Generally I find this forum friendly and a very good place for info. However, I do feel as though it is quite finely balanced and it doesn't take much for a thread to tip over into a personal attack on someone or a ganging up session.
But I must say, the arguing is flipping entertaining sometimes!!
I disagree with a couple of things here to be honest.
I think being a long serving member does give you the right to try to "school" people. As I have mentioned before, this forum has been around a long time, way longer than me. I have always seen it as a very informative forum but with a sense of humour, just as you guys have mentioned already. I think it's great like that and hope it remains. Sometimes though people talk to each other the wrong way or their use of English isn't the best (we've had worse than you blazin so I'm not having a go). And it's only happened a few times but I couldn't believe it when I saw someone offer to have a fight! Christ! Grow up!
We've had members in the past who just swear all the time. I don't think it's right to do that. I swear ALLLLLL the time at work, but it's fairly rare that I'll swear on here. There's no need for it so why do it? And if you're going to do it at least put a few &*($s in.
When we try to "school" people it's nearly always done in a friendly way and it's not done very often really. Also we're trying to help the busy mods out too.
When it comes to the search facility, I quite often reply with that response. If I have time I'll do the search myself and post the results too. The reason we do it though is because there are some questions that get asked over and over and over again. I'm always happy to help people out, but I don't have time to write the same things over and over, and I'm sure others are the same.
By asking people to use the search they can find vast amounts of info themselves, also they might learn something else completely new that they only found by trawling through old threads. PLUS the next time they have a problem they will go straight to the search before asking. One benefit of this is it slows the board down. There are some very good threads that get pushed down the page and get forgotten about because others have posted new threads that could have been avoided.
I understand that noobs might not know that the question has been asked but I hope they can accept that they should at least try to find an answer first.