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You never ever see an Audi anywhere near last place on a reliability survey. The A3 is always in the top 20 for most things.
Change the ****** record PLEAAASE
The audi a3 wont TG's premium brand hot hatc but what was it up against, and why be happy with a 20 20 place. Audi finished 15th out of 35 in the last top gear survey (http://www.topgear.com/content/carsurvey/2006/features/08/2.html). Ok being in the top 50% I suppose is good but look what finished above it, hardly something to shout about.
We'll ignore the first place as I think they do well due to owners expectations!
But a head of Audi are Suzuki, honda, mazda, subaru, toyota, [B/Hyundai ***[/B] and Seat. Surely they should be ashamed that they finished behind these! They are hardly premium brands are they!
I'm not knocking audi as my A3 was a good car, I ont think it was vfm and I dont think it was really a premium car. But the fact I kept it for 2years was a good sign that I obviously liked it although not the dealership expierence....
J
Come on Audi are good! These results come from people like you and me- and sent on to Autoexpress to sort out:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/driver_power_2007/archive/?group=manufacturers
but why should I?
You bang on all the time about how beautiful the A3's design is (Do you sleep with your car too?) yet I don't feel the need to constantly tell you to shut up -
Jeez, sorry someone has an opinion different to yours, go cry to mummy
My mistake those are the 2007 results. It fared quite a bit better in the 2008 magazine results- I imagine this is due to the fact the the A3 model has been out for a few years and ironed out the problems it had in early life.
Either way Bacardi- I'd never convince you that it was a good car- you've had a crap one and I'd probably feel the same way as you if it had happened to me. Although, I wouldn't automatically dismiss another Audi- I do maintain they are very good cars- Both the Germans and the Japanese are top of the range for cars.
Sure, mine has been a big problem car, a fair few others have too expereinced all to common repeat problems, and there does seem to be a general theme towards the attitude of the dealer network - yet some people on here seem all to happy to be blinkered and somehow dismiss those who have had problems as moaners. If anyone was to visit this forum, I feel it only fair that they get a balanced opinion
however, I do put it down to a friday car, and believe it or not, since dealing with my 4th different dealer, who does seem to care (Thanks DaveR) my opinion is changing, I would consider another Audi as a replacement
TBH bacardi your car seems to be the only one that has had repeat problems , sure Warren cox and bowfer had had there problems too.
Everybody has the odd problem from time to time, i think it's it's to be expected and usally gets sorted with the minimum of fuss.
We are enthusiast's/owners club , we care and look after our cars , we notice when things are not right , and come on here and share our thoughts and findings!
I don't think the average Joe notice's problems as early or care as much as us.
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I get slightly perplexed when people seem to harp on about how much of an amazingly well built piece of machinery Audi's are though, believing them to be so much of a cut above the rest, superior in any which way
That's a fair point
L60N - did you say you were waiting for steering rack #2 in another thread?
Take my wife's Clio and my brother-in-law's Vectra, for example.
Both seem to be screwed together just as well as my Audi was, and both are considerably more refined than my A3 was.
Stepping into either of them, it made me think Audi had left the sound insolation out of my A3.
Surely an A3
No it's the body styling of the S3 i'm not keen on, don't like the slightly squared off rear bumper, side skirts etc, don't much like chrome mirrors, full chrome grille either. I do like the more aggressive front bumper but thats it. So yes, i just prefer the more simplistic stream-lined look of the s-line.
As for the exhaust, i specifically want a Milltek because it looks 'stock' just with a better note and as for the wheels... I've only looked at MTM and Sportecs as options due to them looking less aftermarket than most. I want wheels to compliment and improve the car, not necessarily modify it. Not to mention being better wheels than the stock RS6's and i just want something different to the masses, wheel-wise.
So no i'm not at odds at all. I have a very clear idea of what i do and don't like. I prefer the S-line but want different wheels. Not rocket science is it.
My point about the mirrors was that i work with 2 guys, one has a Leon FR and the other a Golf GTDI, both supplied as standard with electric folding mirrors. No doubt both those cars use the same motor, wiring and switch gear. Is it really such a cost to Audi? Its just a nice convenient feature which should be standard thats all.
I think we're getting this a bit mixed up here. For me the S-line looks nothing like the S3 unless you don't have a clue what you're looking at.
Correct me if i'm wrong but the S-Line was released years before the S3 so surely it's the S3 which looks like an S-Line, not vica versa. Blame Audi for that.
You must understand that there is a market for people who want a slick looking sporty car without being a full on attention grabbing hot hatch.
So what you're saying is there should only be bog standard, dull as ditch water base models then 'S' and 'RS' cars with nothing inbetween? I think thats the opinion of a dissatisfied S3 owner who feels a bit short changed with the styling of his car more than anything...
Oh dear, quite a prickly response that, maybe if you had bought the `full fat` S3 in the first place you wouldnt feel the need to rubbish it and justify to the rest of us why you bought an S-line instead.
Go on, be honest with yourself, and admit you bought the wrong model, you will feel much better and probably less angry in general.......its good to talk
hang in there bud, where in this together..
Thats comedy!!
Yep. I took it back as the problem has reared its ugly head again. I hope it gets sorted this time. I took one of their engineers out to demonstrate the problem. We both then went back to the service guy. The engineer whispered "Yeah its the common fault" to the service chap. This worries me somewhat.
Heres hoping its sorted after number 2....
Im not gonna beat down the Marque tho, cars made up of millions of moving parts can have teething problems, its how they are ironed out that is of importance to me...
If its not fixed after 3 attempts, i'll return the keys to Audi and let the finance company know the car they bought aint as described so ive handed it back.
Been in a friends vectra, wouldnt say it was rattly. Just not the same build quality.
Which is sometimes I can't understand either. Dashboards are made of plastic. Does it really cost ££££££££'s more to produce "soft touch" plastics?
I would guess the dashboard material suppliers have different 'grades'.
Perhaps only pennies between them, but that will multiply over thousands of units.
Once upon a time, a 'mainstream' car buyer (Ford, Vauxhall, Fiat etc.) would have accepted hard plastics.
They are becoming more discerning/demanding though, hence the reason the likes of Renault are now using the same suppliers/materials as Audi/BMW.
Audi/BMW must be worried though.
Think about it from their point of view.
If their competitors are using the same materials, and screwing it together just as well, then they've lost one of their USP's.
If you can't physically 'touch' the difference between a £24k Audi and an £18k Renault any more, then they have to find other reasons for you to buy one.
PNH80 said he's thinking of chopping his "streamined executive S-line" for an "attention grabbing hothatch"
So i think he's finally coming round to it too
. I love the idea of a N/A 3.0 engine and rear wheel drive.
Man, I am loving rear wheel drive..
Second gear roundabouts are just a giggle.
Thats right, and i maintain i don't much like the bodykit on the S3. I stand by every comment i've made! If you read my thread, it's becoming obvious that you might as well just bite the bullet and go for the best spec'd car you can afford. I'd rather have an S-Line spec'd up to S3 level but it's a complete waste of money and retro-fitting is a bit of a mugs game financially.
So yes, despite my dislike of various aspects of the S3 i am considering one due to it just making more financial sense and i'd be more likely to hang onto the car for longer. Nothing to do with performance at all.
Anyway i'm not getting pulled into childish arguments with certain forum goers...
I do however have a few niggles with the A3 which i'm guessing will apply to the S3 also, so i'm undecided.
As marriedblonde pointed out i am seriously considering a Z4 coupe. I love the idea of a N/A 3.0 engine and rear wheel drive. Proper sports coupe isn't it unlike the beetle-ish TT.
Man, I am loving rear wheel drive..
Second gear roundabouts are just a giggle.
If you can't physically 'touch' the difference between a £24k Audi and an £18k Renault any more, then they have to find other reasons for you to buy one.
There is just sometimes about non german cars I don't like. Call me a snob but there is no way I'd spend what is a huge amount of money on a boring car.
French cars especially don't make you feel good.
They're so bland and dull, have you seen the rear end of the new laguna?? I have never seen something so hideous in my life.