Anyone used eBay Black DRL 'R8' style headlights?

[Kieronboz]

Hey guys, just got an email off eBay with some marketing stuff in, you know the deal, anyway todays push for me was headlights haha.

Items such as this;

AUDI A3 8P 2003-2008 BLACK DRL DEVIL EYE AUDI R8 PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTS PAIR | eBay

On paper; great lights, I assume projector is good?

Also these;

AUDI A3 8P1 8PA 03-08 HEADLIGHTS - BLACK DEVIL EYE R8 DRL LOOK | eBay

Again same thing, I have a '54 A3, trying to smarten it up, I also hear I can whack newer rear lights in no problem?

Think the quality will just be naff? Dont get me wrong I love OEM and everything but sometimes the Audi life is too rich for me! haha.

Cheers

 

[blazedani]

Yes, they are quite good.
Made by Depo in Taiwan.
Saw them working & they are one the best looking / best quality aftermarket headlights for A3 in my opinion.

Also with "Bixenon" style projector so you get low & high beam only with 1 bulb.

Be careful if you want to use a HID kit on them, because most of the HID kits on the market will blow away your wiper motor.

 

[Kieronboz]

Ah yeah I have heard about the wiper motor thing, "fortunately" I don't have HIDs!

I may look into purchasing, trying to find a split grille with them fitted though as they look a lot newer than my lights. I'm sceptical of their compatibility haha.

 

[blazedani]

Another good option is to get the DEPO Xenon headlights with D2S bulbs to get an OEM look.
Is basically a replica of the OEM Xenon headlight & legal to use HID bulbs.

 

[Kieronboz]

I see would you use them with just standard lights or with the black eBay ones? I like the physical look of the eBay ones over my standard ones is all.

 

[BetyOops]

To use HID kit on ours A3, you have to setup this (i don't know the word in english sorry, in french "Kit de suralimentation")

Your HID kit is directly plug to your battery and there is no risk to damage your wipers

 

[blazedani]

To use HID kit on ours A3, you have to setup this View attachment 25798 (i don't know the word in english sorry, in french "Kit de suralimentation")

Your HID kit is directly plug to your battery and there is no risk to damage your wipers

That is not true.
If he tries that he will most likely end up with a broken wiper motor.

The 25.000V from the ballast produce interferences that blow the wiper motor away.
The interference is spread by air, not by cables.
Using relays, battery harness, warning cancellers, etc is useless.

That is what I have learned after 7 years installing HID kits.

There are some HID kits that are safe for the wiper motor & they do not use any of those cables or relays.

 

[Kieronboz]

That is not true.
If he tries that he will most likely end up with a broken wiper motor.

The 25.000V from the ballast produce interferences that blow the wiper motor away.
The interference is spread by air, not by cables.
Using relays, battery harness, warning cancellers, etc is useless.

That is what I have learned after 7 years installing HID kits.

There are some HID kits that are safe for the wiper motor & they do not use any of those cables or relays.

I think all I really want are the Black eBay ones! With some nice bulbs, ive asked the seller if my current bulbs will work or if it uses different bulbs, I don't really know lights!

 

[Alex_007]

Which ones is it that you prefer, the ones in the first link?

 

[sliced]

cozza MCA had them i believe

Personally I wouldn't bother, but its upto you

 

[Kieronboz]

Which ones is it that you prefer, the ones in the first link?

It was the first ones I preferred the most, the second one look very jewelry to me, for some reason lol.

cozza MCA had them i believe
Personally I wouldn't bother, but its upto you

Hmm I dunno they dont look as dark as I was hoping! Thanks for the pictures, just need to see with split grille! Cheers

 

[Cozza McA]

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cozza MCA had them i believe

Personally I wouldn't bother, but its upto you

Yes that's correct, had being the key word. Lights wernt all that bad,different but I found the projector set up a bit dull when using just the normal bulbs.



Just a few extra pics for u to decide.

 

[Kieronboz]

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Yes that's correct, had being the key word. Lights wernt all that bad,different but I found the projector set up a bit dull when using just the normal bulbs.

Just a few extra pics for u to decide.

Ah! I like the look now, im just trying to figure out what bulbs they use, just the ones i have now or special projector ones? I currently use nightbreaker/halford mega bright jobbys!

Cheers for the pictures

 

[y2kcurran]

Hmm I dunno they dont look as dark as I was hoping! Thanks for the pictures, just need to see with split grille! Cheers

Stick a bit of Lamin-X subtle tint on them, it would give them that nice slightly darker look.

 

[Kieronboz]

Stick a bit of Lamin-X subtle tint on them, it would give them that nice slightly darker look.

Yeah good idea, I currently use Fly eye to achieve the below; but I want to try a tint out!

 

[JJ.Foulds]

To use HID kit on ours A3, you have to setup this View attachment 25798 (i don't know the word in english sorry, in french "Kit de suralimentation")

Your HID kit is directly plug to your battery and there is no risk to damage your wipers

I will try something like this, as i cant afford a HID package. I will have to get back to everyone if it works or not!

 

[BetyOops]

That is not true.
If he tries that he will most likely end up with a broken wiper motor.

The 25.000V from the ballast produce interferences that blow the wiper motor away.
The interference is spread by air, not by cables.
Using relays, battery harness, warning cancellers, etc is useless.

That is what I have learned after 7 years installing HID kits.

There are some HID kits that are safe for the wiper motor & they do not use any of those cables or relays.

In a few message you will try to sell your product as you made on multiple forum! The ONLY way to not burn our swipers is HID relay! And it's wrong, the interference dosn't spread by air but by wire! Strop trying to sold your F*** product...

I will try something like this, as i cant afford a HID package. I will have to get back to everyone if it works or not!

Personnaly, HID Relay works perfectly on my A3 with my HID kit. No ODB error and my swipers works fine.

 

[sliced]

Back to original post... If you want to smarten it up have a look at tim's a3 for inspiration, small subtle changes go a huge way

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-sportback-8p-chassis/117830-a3-tims-3.html#post1659899

 

[Kieronboz]

Back to original post... If you want to smarten it up have a look at tim's a3 for inspiration, small subtle changes go a huge way

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-sportback-8p-chassis/117830-a3-tims-3.html#post1659899

Oh yeah ive been through that a thousand times, good post!

 

[blazedani]

In a few message you will try to sell your product as you made on multiple forum! The ONLY way to not burn our swipers is HID relay! And it's wrong, the interference dosn't spread by air but by wire! Strop trying to sold your F*** product...

Personnaly, HID Relay works perfectly on my A3 with my HID kit. No ODB error and my swipers works fine.

You can not be more wrong BetyOops.
Precisely because I have been selling HID for 7 years people should trust on my experience & not the other way around.

The HID relay "works" for you BUT that doesn't mean it works for everybody.
It works for you because your A3 does not have the wiper motor issue. (around 20% of Audi A3 do not have that problem)
You can remove your relay or install the cheapest HID on ebay & will still work the same & won't cause any damage to your wiper motor.
You are the lucky 20%.
Another A3 owner with the same setup you have on your car will blow the wiper motor.


Do you want to see a few people with a broken wiper motor using battery relay?
(for your information the Peugeot 407 & Volvo S40-V50 suffer also from the wiper motor issue).

From Volvo Forum Swedespeed.com
Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this - Page 6

My solution was a battery harness from my boy Matt @ TRS and a $50 used WMM off eBay. Already had some low amp draw Morimoto ballasts so threw those in over the ****ty DDM ones.

My motor fried the other night. No warning, just crazy wipers then nothing. Have had aftermarket HID kits for 4+ years, not sure what caused it to go crazy now. Oh well. Used ones go for $40-140 so I'll cross my fingers that I'm ok with one of those.

Well, that's the thing. I've got that custom setup from Jacob (shadow) so I figured I was pretty safe. Think it was just a fluke, my car has been acting up a bit lately. But I guess that is to be expected with a car that's getting into the higher mileage. I'm around 130k now, and with the accidents in there who knows what little things have been bumped around too much, haha. Still love the lady though, she's been good to me.

I got the same "fix" so apparently it just stalls the potential issue lol. My lights were having firing issues prior to the motor failing. I meant to do the relay harness sooner but kept procrastinating.

I don't understand why some people is so distrustful.

Being an Audi A3 owner & selling HID for more than 7 years just prove that I know what I'm talking about.
Few Audi-VW forums around the world confirm what I'm saying.

 

[blazedani]

I will try something like this, as i cant afford a HID package. I will have to get back to everyone if it works or not!

JJ.Foulds,

If you don't have money I recommend you not to try.
Most likely you will have to spend much more money replacing the wiper motor if you use that cable.

It doesn't exist a cheap solution for the Audi A3 wiper motor problem otherwise it would have been discovered many years ago.

 

[JJ.Foulds]

JJ.Foulds,

If you don't have money I recommend you not to try.
Most likely you will have to spend much more money replacing the wiper motor if you use that cable.

It doesn't exist a cheap solution for the Audi A3 wiper motor problem otherwise it would have been discovered many years ago.

Well this is all just a no hoper then. lol.

 

[JJ.Foulds]

JJ.Foulds,

If you don't have money I recommend you not to try.
Most likely you will have to spend much more money replacing the wiper motor if you use that cable.

It doesn't exist a cheap solution for the Audi A3 wiper motor problem otherwise it would have been discovered many years ago.

Authough HIDS4U claim theirs dont blow wiper motor either and mentions it in their ad, i have emailed them and hope for a reply tomorrow. Their kit is half the price at around £90 also, might be worth a try.

 

[blazedani]

Authough HIDS4U claim theirs dont blow wiper motor either and mentions it in their ad, i have emailed them and hope for a reply tomorrow. Their kit is half the price at around £90 also, might be worth a try.

HIDS4U claim that.

Their clients claim something very different.

Didn't want to register on here because I don't drive an Audi and was only interested in this GB.
However, I felt I had to chip in with the recent discussions above...........

I am running a Well done OEM kit bought from the GB on VWVortex.
No problems what so ever.
I have put my name down for this GB only because I want to change the colour temperature of my existing bulbs.

I have also had a HIDS 4 U Ultimate kit in a previous car. It ran fine for a couple of years until it blew 2 wiper motors within a few months.
I have every faith in the Well Done kit.

I am very disappointed that the group buy thread was closed. I have heard nothing but good news about Welldone over the past 2 years. Some uninformed people on that thread had suggested HIDS4U kits, well I just want to make it clear that I used to have one of those top of the range HIDS4U kits and it blew my wiper motor 3 times. The harness they offer sucks as it causes a constant bulb out fault. I sent the harness back and got rid of the kit, as it was rubbish!

I do not understand why Welldone have been treated the way that they have been, sponsors already on this forum don't offer the same products!? Just my 2p.

I would recommend you to ask a professional & not those companies selling "cables" to solve a problem can not be fixed by adding cables.

The Welldone kit is not the only solution, but it's probably the most simple one.
And that's not what I say, is what the folks in VWVortex (US), Audisport-Iberica (Spain), Audipt.com (Portugal) & other Audi-VW forums around the world say.

 

[BetyOops]

JJ.Foulds,

If you don't have money I recommend you not to try.
Most likely you will have to spend much more money replacing the wiper motor if you use that cable.

It doesn't exist a cheap solution for the Audi A3 wiper motor problem otherwise it would have been discovered many years ago.

I'll only reply to this argument...

If there isn't a cheap solution to fix the swiper motor, why did you claim on A3Forum.fr that you can fix it?
[AVIS] Kit HID H7 55W Digital Ballast : Esthétique extérieure - Forum Audi A3 8P - 8V

And for the other people, a few example of blazedani message on the same forum:
Montage Xenon Phase1 : Esthétique extérieure - Forum Audi A3 8P - 8V
Moteur essuie glace HS que faire : Problèmes Eléctrique ou Eléctronique - Forum Audi A3 8P - 8V
Kit xenon qui ne grille pas le moteur d'essui glace : Esthétique extérieure - Forum Audi A3 8P - 8V
Kit xenon qui ne grille pas le moteur d'essui glace : Esthétique extérieure - Forum Audi A3 8P - 8V
Installation Kit HID - Audi TT Mk2 : Audio & électronique embarquée - Forum Audi A3 8P - 8V

All this message are commercial and the picture on the website selling the HID kit comes from another french forum....

Stop trying to convince people, the ONLY solution is HID relay.

Admin/Modo, sorry for the link to another forum.

 

[blazedani]

If there isn't a cheap solution to fix the swiper motor, why did you claim on A3Forum.fr that you can fix it?
[AVIS] Kit HID H7 55W Digital Ballast : Esthétique extérieure - Forum Audi A3 8P - 8V

And for the other people, a few example of blazedani message on the same forum:

All this message are commercial and the picture on the website selling the HID kit comes from another french forum....

Stop trying to convince people, the ONLY solution is HID relay.

Admin/Modo, sorry for the link to another forum.

Yes, I know how to FIX the wiper motor once is broken.
But that is not a solution to avoid the wiper motor problem.
That is a solution once is already broken.


And your argument about HID relay is invalid.

Here an example why:
This morning I crossed the street with my eyes closed & I'm alive!
Is safe the do it. Other people did it & they are alive too.
Let's all cross the streets with our eyes closed!

20% will survive & is true they did survive.
But that doesn't mean it is safe. The other 80% was not so lucky.

As long as someone try & fail, it proves is not safe.

You tried & worked Cool. Good for you
80% of people that tried the same "solution" had problems with their wiper motor.
(as it's proved on Swedespeed forum & many more)


This is exactly what it has been happening in all Audi forums around the world.
Some lucky guy (20%) who tried something different believe he found the solution.

I saw people recommending stupid things just because their wiper didn't fail.
- Use your FOG lights cables to power the HID
- Use warning canceller
- Use 55w HID kit
- Use VAGCOM to setup the Xenon/Bixenon function
- Use relays or battery harness

All of them are useless.
Audi owners in US, Canada, Spain... they confirm I'm right.

I had installed hundreds of HID kits on the Audi A3.
Since I discovered the problem (back in 2009) I have never broke a single wiper motor & never ever used a relay.

Have been working on this problem for the last 7 years & I have solved it.
Why some users believe they have the right to be rude to me?
I don't go to the hospital & argue with my Doctor in a very rude way about my diagnostic.

Some people should learn to listen/read before confronting people the way they do.

 

[blazedani]

And for the other people, a few example of blazedani message on the same forum:
Montage Xenon Phase1 : Esthétique extérieure - Forum Audi A3 8P - 8V

All this message are commercial and the picture on the website selling the HID kit comes from another french forum....

Stop trying to convince people, the ONLY solution is HID relay.

Admin/Modo, sorry for the link to another forum.

For your information,
Welldone requested to that French forum to become Sponsor.
(in few days the Sponsorship will show up in the forum)

Same as they requested to Audi-Sport.net

You are misinformed about the wiper motor problem & about me.
And just trying to put people against me with the wrong arguments all over again.

 

[BetyOops]

Audi France? Which forum? lol....

If you are really sure about your product do you garantee the swiper motor of your customers?

The answer is no... Why ? Because your product have the same risk as all the others products...

In all your topic in all the forums, you try to sold your product without giving any garantee...

Give us the garantee to refund our swiper motor if it burn and i'll trust you...

 

[blazedani]

Audi France? Which forum? lol....

If you are really sure about your product do you garantee the swiper motor of your customers?

The answer is no... Why ? Because your product have the same risk as all the others products...

In all your topic in all the forums, you try to sold your product without giving any garantee...

Give us the garantee to refund our swiper motor if it burn and i'll trust you...

First of all, the OP doesn't even want to install HID.

So if you want to keep discussing about HID I suggest you to open a thread for that.
Send me the link & I will be willing to share my comments there.

Second, If you have any question about French forums you should ask the admins or Welldone dealer in France.

Third, I'm not selling anything.
I gave my opinion to the OP about the headlights from DEPO.

 

[Kieronboz]

Thanks everyone for all your advice- Some healthy debating going on too which is fun haha.

I think if funds allow ill be getting the black look ones with DRL/projector bulbs, and some H7 bulbs!

 

[hollows wife]

i had a hid kit fitted to a 2005 a3 around 5 years ago ,this debate was going on then , the kit i bought was only around £60 with ultra slim ballast that fitted inside the headlight without having to mount any part of it out side the headlamp . I never had any trouble with it at all in 2 years . i could probably look back through my ebay and find the kit if it helps anyone out .

 

[blazedani]

i had a hid kit fitted to a 2005 a3 around 5 years ago ,this debate was going on then , the kit i bought was only around £60 with ultra slim ballast that fitted inside the headlight without having to mount any part of it out side the headlamp . I never had any trouble with it at all in 2 years . i could probably look back through my ebay and find the kit if it helps anyone out .

Is not about your HID kit.
Is about your car not having a sensitive wiper motor.

You are the lucky 20% as I said before.
Could waste your time looking for that ebay seller & others will blow the motor away with that same HID kit.

This is the reason why this topic is cyclic.
Every now & then someone install HID on his A3, don't blow the wiper motor, and then believe he discovered something all the other people around the world missed.

For you is a £60 HID "special" kit from ebay.
For BetyOops is a relay.
For many others is VCDS, resistors, cancellers, 55w kits, etc.
How someone can create a solutions without understanding the problem??

The problem is 25.000V, it has been proved, solved & confirmed.
Just need to google about it or check Audi forums around the world.
Guys you won't discover anything new.

 

[smurfworth]

The reason people hate you is because your argumentative and the username you are using and promoting welldone hid's is not a sponsor account.

People will always have a problem with you unless your username becomes a site sponsor.

And welldone's hid's might be good, but for being on 8p's for the last 7 years you wouldn't think you'd get problems with the kit when you buy it.

 

[blazedani]

The reason people hate you is because your argumentative and the username you are using and promoting welldone hid's is not a sponsor account.

People will always have a problem with you unless your username becomes a site sponsor.

And welldone's hid's might be good, but for being on 8p's for the last 7 years you wouldn't think you'd get problems with the kit when you buy it.

Smurfworth I see your point, but I didn't promote anything on this topic.
I was just giving the OP my opinion about those projector headlights, which I saw installed I believe to be a good option.

The reason people "hate" me is because a company in this forum tried hard for people to behave that way.
Some people do not have the knowledge or valid arguments to discuss something & they just use other methods to win the discussion.


In other forums like AudiSport-Iberica, VWVortex, Swedespeed... people have a very different opinion.

Sorry for all the pictures the thing is that i love watching other peoples pictures so im sure you will enjoy a few as well...! hope this helps to the rest of you guys.

BIG BIG BIG!!!! thanks to Daniel....! the man was right all this time...!!

Didn't sell anything to this guy, just helped him to avoid the wiper motor problem with his own setup.
Without using any relay of course.