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What does CEL possible/unlikely mean?
Engine light in other words. Basically means 'wrong mixture' if it comes on, and your either running too lean or rich.
Closer to 0% the better.
What does CEL possible/unlikely mean?
Ahhh right duuhh lol noob here. A take it at that stage you be wanting to upgrade fuel pump then?
I've just fitted this kit today, but I didn't have the right sized socket for the bolts that you use to fit the heat shield.
I was just keen to know that this should be ok without the heat shield to run for a little bit?
I need to use the car to get the socket for the bolts.
Yeah sure it will be fine mate.
Umm just use M8 (i think it was!) bolts, screw from underneath, couple of suitable washers and nylocks and tighten. Should just be 10mm socket.
Is this how you removed the plastic toothed nuts that are in already? Did you destroy the plastic ones in the process?
So you just replaced them with some M8 bolts? I thought you had from looking at your first picture, but couldn't be sure.
It feels quicker already, waiting on my shark map to arrive, but it looks like Monday before it gets sent back!
Removing those 'jagged plastic things' <----(technical term right there) is VERY deceptive!!
The front two simply unscrew, so you'd think the same for the rear 2. Incorrect.
Theres a 10mm nut underneath to undo for each one. Then they will simply unscrew.
I found this out the hard way by destroying mine , but easily replaced if i went back to standard.
Then just replaced with proper nuts and bolts as you can do them up much tighter, which is important, as heat shields can rattle if not done up well.
I used fairly large washers and stepped down to a smaller one to spread the load better.
Hope this helps.
Right, so do they unscrew by hand easily once the nut has been removed- cancelling out the need to find a socket to fit over the jagged plastic things?
Cheers buddy.
Yes they aren't hard to get off once you've undone the nuts.
Some big pliers just to get the turn started. WD40 perhaps if its a little stiff, just avoid over spray on the manifold, else you may be smokin' a little when warm until it burns off!
You do not need a socket, not even sure there is one for it in say Halfrauds? But either way, a pointless purchase when you'll no doubt have pliers.
I'll fit it for you if your close, be happy to talk 8P.
Thread ressurection...
I'm quite interested in 1 of these... so you would all recommend 1 then...
and 1 other question.. what is that pipe on the left hand side of yuleys3's thats not on mjr901's original pics??
Thread ressurection...
I'm quite interested in 1 of these... so you would all recommend 1 then...
and 1 other question.. what is that pipe on the left hand side of yuleys3's thats not on mjr901's original pics??
Fairly important to read some of what I wrote above too.
The bolt that fixes it to the right of the engine comes as an Allen fixing. (rubbish)
Now normally this would be fine, however unlike the ITG that comes with a support bracket further up, this doesn't.
So the weight of it is supported by this one fixing.
So to get it properly fixed you do need a hex bolt instead.
The allen one comes loose after a short time as you start rounding it off before you have it tight enough.
Mine be hasn't budged at all now.
Also, no trimming of pipes necessary.
The system should sit level like mine in the pictures.
ITG filter is the best option if I'm honest, yes a little expensive, but still the best looking and it completely fills the space behind the headlight
yeah mate, had a good look over the whole thread and I liked the look of it... I'm only wanting to take my car top end stage 1 or low end stage 2 so it looks ideal to me... Saved the guys number and gonna txt him later.... Do you think ts a good idea to get this fitted before I get the map done and run it for a week or two 1st.... That way any changes to ecu can be mapped for the config im running instead of fitting this stuff afterwards?
The only reason for trim was to get the filter in, im sure if i used a diffrent one it would be great but here what mine looks like.Also, no trimming of pipes necessary.
The system should sit level like mine in the pictures.
ITG filter is the best option if I'm honest, yes a little expensive, but still the best looking and it completely fills the space behind the headlight
CAI ordered tonight ...
Had quite a lengthy chat with Matt... nice guy, really helpful and are really looking forward to getting this fitted now...
thanks for the responses...
Anyone know if motorcycle filter oil can be used on these? i'd imagine they are just the same thing eh?
I bought the Itg filter kit
Yesterday i measured the air intake flow rate and got 267g/s with it (stage 2 Shark, 16deg outside). So its up there with the 'big boys', which is good.
Did some more logging on the intake today.
The Long Term Fuel Trims.
+4.7%, Again very good.
Some more values (pinched from VWVortex) that need to be added to...
Stock Intake: Fuel Trims from +0 to +5% - Safe
APR Carbonio: +0 to +8% - Safe
Forge WINtake: +10 to +25% - CEL Possible
Forge TWINtake: +5 to +15% - CEL Unlikely
EVOMs Intake: +0 to +~5% - Safe
CTS Turbo Intake: +0 to +~5% - Safe
Neuspeed P-Flo Intake: +0 to +~8% - Safe
VWR Intake: +5 to +20% - CEL Possible
VWR Intake (Post-Warranty Modification): +0 to ~8% - CEL Unlikely
Volant Intake: +0 to +~5% - Safe
Injen Intake: +5 to +20% - CEL Possible
BSH Intake: +0 to ~10% - CEL Unlikely
you cannot compare and judge performance on airflows...
Reason why is the maf tube is not the same as std, nor others, and the sensor position is not the same inside the tube. this one places the sensor too far into the tube close to the other side of the tube.
Check your 032 fueling adaptions and report back what they say after some driving.
If you use oil,you're likely to mess up the MAF,as it may become coated,and send dodgy figures to the ECU.
Good point.
A lot of people are getting focussed on airflow,and as you point out,not taking into account other things such as placement of the MAF,and tubing diameters and restrictions etc etc.
I've got one of the original ITGs on mine,which was fitted after Stg3 to replace the original CAI,and despite being one of the "older" devices on the market,flow has never been a problem,even with the sort of turbo,and boost levels being run through it.
Cheers Alex... I'm just gonna leave it dry
Some more values (pinched from VWVortex) that need to be added to...
Stock Intake: Fuel Trims from +0 to +5% - Safe
APR Carbonio: +0 to +8% - Safe
Forge WINtake: +10 to +25% - CEL Possible
Forge TWINtake: +5 to +15% - CEL Unlikely
EVOMs Intake: +0 to +~5% - Safe
CTS Turbo Intake: +0 to +~5% - Safe
Neuspeed P-Flo Intake: +0 to +~8% - Safe
VWR Intake: +5 to +20% - CEL Possible
VWR Intake (Post-Warranty Modification): +0 to ~8% - CEL Unlikely
Volant Intake: +0 to +~5% - Safe
Injen Intake: +5 to +20% - CEL Possible
BSH Intake: +0 to ~10% - CEL Unlikely
Its been on long enough now to get a proper long term fuel trim value I think now.
With the MTC i can report the reading of +8.6%.
isnt that a kind of near bad reading lol... thought its meant to be under 5% for a good one
even to i have no idea what any of this even means.