Indicators as daytime running lights

[lewis1]

Hi does anyone know how to code my indicators as daytime running lights (orange) as seen done before on my 2006 A3 S Line. Cheers

 

[s8craig]

Is that even legal?

 

[hades-]

isnt this a repost ?

if you have vcds you will get the info in the drop down menu's

and as said in the other post its gona cause problems with the police in this country.

 

[lewis1]

Don't think so but seen them on a couple and has anyone got the coding for vagcom? reposted as didn't get much help on the other one and would like to know where to find the option for it

 

[hades-]

Don't think so but seen them on a couple and has anyone got the coding for vagcom?

i saw someone robbing a bank with a gun a few years ago.

 

[NHN]

I have now removed your duplicated thread as its pointless having 2.

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/vcds-f...5-indicators-daytime-running-lights-help.html

I did answer before & the fact you're asking to get nicked for dangerous driving, people will think your turning when your not etc, opens up a can of worms you may regret & as much as you may or may not be sensible at reading lights on cars, others are not.

 

[lewis1]

Im going to uni in september and running the car with stance for looks basically as will be in garage for high percentage of the year, i have seen a few a3s now with the option on and would just like to know how it is done, i will run them at my own risk

 

[hades-]

as above its done with vcds

 

[Andy Crooks]

then your more likely to get pulled as your asking for trouble!

 

[mike foster]

Im going to uni in september and running the car with stance for looks basically as will be in garage for high percentage of the year, i have seen a few a3s now with the option on and would just like to know how it is done, i will run them at my own risk

Buy a VCDS cable and find out for yourself !

How do you qualify for uni if you're daft enough to even think about running indicators as drl's ?

 

[lewis1]

Buy a VCDS cable and find out for yourself !

How do you qualify for uni if you're daft enough to even think about running indicators as drl's ?

Im not going to spend however much on a cable to find something like this out...hence why I'm using a forum. And saying how I qualifiy for Uni is a stupid thing to say, especially as a lot of mods ive seen aren't necessarily 'road legal'

 

[Andy Crooks]

Im not going to spend however much on a cable to find something like this out...hence why I'm using a forum. And saying how I qualifiy for Uni is a stupid thing to say, especially as a lot of mods ive seen aren't necessarily 'road legal'

basically nobody agrees with your mod, so nobody wants to help you with it!

 

[kwistof]

Yes there are many mods on the market that aren't necessarily road legal - but a 'mod' where you remove the means to clearly indicate to other roads users......

Do you also want to code in the brake lights being constantly on or your reverse lights for that matter? I mean you may as well take things to the next level and start setting the 'scene' rather than following it.
Not sure if this thread is serious

 

[Andy Crooks]

Kwistof, I was going to say what about the brake lights, should I do it and see how many times I get pulled lol

 

[danb986]

Forgetting the legallity and common sense aspect, why would you want orange lights on your car?
Surely the majority of owners and manufacturers alike are trying to remove all traces of orange from the lights when they're turned off.

 

[leeds2592]

Give the OP a break lads, he only asked the question. I do agree with this though....

I did answer before & the fact you're asking to get nicked for dangerous driving, people will think your turning when your not etc, opens up a can of worms you may regret & as much as you may or may not be sensible at reading lights on cars, others are not.

I have seen a few A3's with it done and although I don't agree that it should be done, I've always wondered how it was actually done. May have a play about with VCDS tonight.

 

[Andy Crooks]

Another factor to take into account is when it's mot time, would you change it back just for the mot and then put them back to drls after that

 

[lewis1]

Had my MOT last week so havent got to worry about it for a while, my dads mate has garage so would just pop it through anyway...at the end of the day its my car my decision and my preference

 

[kwistof]

Had my MOT last week so havent got to worry about it for a while, my dads mate has garage so would just pop it through anyway...at the end of the day its my car my decision and my preference

Fair enough....but if you were to be involved in an accident - whether it be your fault or not....if the car is not road worthy at the time of the incident then you could face some pretty serious issues when going through the claim.

 

[NHN]

This has been my point all along & concern, if there was a fatal incident, you would be in serious shxt tbh, the legal claims wouldn't be covered if they found the indicators to be the cause of the issue, you would possibly be responsible for claims running into hundreds of thousands of pounds & that will never leave you side for life unless you have a lottery win.

Do you really understand the possible liability you're putting on your shoulders here?

 

[Cruiser89]

I'm not a big fan of this mod either... More for the fact it would look a bit bizarre.

If you like the "Orange" look, why don't you fit some running lights like they have on the American cars? A few people on here with the older A3s have done it and it looks alright...



Always best to stay legal my friend

 

[Sidhu88]

So much flaming... amazing!

Does anyone actually have any solid evidence to say that they aren't legal in the UK?

I'd like to make a point about some other UK spec cars that also have orange DRLs. All E60, facelift e90/91/92/93, and F10 bmws to my knowledge have orange lights on the front that aren't indicators. and they're used as police cars.

UKDM volvos, up until recently, all came with orange DRLs. Also used as police cars.

There are even some commercial vans, transits, sprinters, etc that have them on the side of the van. Also used by the police!

So if all these vehicles are on uk roads with these lights, then whats the frikkin big deal?!

Edit: I had this mod for a while, got stopped by a traffic car, which was in fact an e61 like the one above, they said nothing about the indicators as DRLs.

To the OP, if u do this mod, make sure u reduce light percentage to around 20%

 

[Sidhu88]

Yes there are many mods on the market that aren't necessarily road legal - but a 'mod' where you remove the means to clearly indicate to other roads users......

Do you also want to code in the brake lights being constantly on or your reverse lights for that matter? I mean you may as well take things to the next level and start setting the 'scene' rather than following it.
Not sure if this thread is serious

Do you realise that when you do indicate, the DRL function stops? If you set the light percentage to 20%, and indicate, they indicate at full brightness as normal. Once u've stopped indicating, the DRL function continues.

 

[hades-]

the flashers on is an MOT fail
and yes you can get a ticket for it

theres no harm in haveing orange drl or markers
i have them on my HGV i also have green on a tanker
but the flashers have to be of if not turning and work as they should

 

[NHN]

So much flaming... amazing!

Does anyone actually have any solid evidence to say that they aren't legal in the UK?

I'd like to make a point about some other UK spec cars that also have orange DRLs. All E60, facelift e90/91/92/93, and F10 bmws to my knowledge have orange lights on the front that aren't indicators. and they're used as police cars.

UKDM volvos, up until recently, all came with orange DRLs. Also used as police cars.

There are even some commercial vans, transits, sprinters, etc that have them on the side of the van. Also used by the police!

So if all these vehicles are on uk roads with these lights, then whats the frikkin big deal?!

I think you're missing the point tbh, whether they're legal or not, think of the psychological impact, most daily/sensible drivers know where indicators are on specific cars, so when they look at a car & see the orange light lit, yes there are some common sense of whether its flashing or not, but there will be that of chance that they will see this as a signal to turn & react to this however they see fit, this is the main problem here which they're aren't taking into the equation.

Its common practise for brake lights to be indicators in the US, but here its unheard of.

What happens if that 0.00001% time it does cause a problem that it ends up actually causing a very serious accident, where does that leave him, knowing insurance companies, out to dry with claims to pay out of his pocket & if they question the reason for the accident "he was indicating, no I wasn't, then why were your indicators lit, oh because I reprogrammed them to be lit all the time" I can imagine how that conversation will go from there.

 

[Boon]

So much flaming... amazing!

Does anyone actually have any solid evidence to say that they aren't legal in the UK?

I'd like to make a point about some other UK spec cars that also have orange DRLs. All E60, facelift e90/91/92/93, and F10 bmws to my knowledge have orange lights on the front that aren't indicators. and they're used as police cars.

UKDM volvos, up until recently, all came with orange DRLs. Also used as police cars.

There are even some commercial vans, transits, sprinters, etc that have them on the side of the van. Also used by the police!

So if all these vehicles are on uk roads with these lights, then whats the frikkin big deal?!

Edit: I had this mod for a while, got stopped by a traffic car, which was in fact an e61 like the one above, they said nothing about the indicators as DRLs.

To the OP, if u do this mod, make sure u reduce light percentage to around 20%

I was going to say the same thing!

many, many cars on the road with orange side lights. If the indicators where on really bright then I could see this being an issue as there would be little difference to see the flashes

 

[Audi Dynamik]

When you are talking about the Bmw with the orange drls they are not indicators and they certainly are not full on the same colour as indicator orange either, it is a different shade and it matters !

 

[NHN]

I was going to say the same thing!

many, many cars on the road with orange side lights. If the indicators where on really bright then I could see this being an issue as there would be little difference to see the flashes

Yes but allot of these cars have separate indicators & the daily drivers know this already, but if the drivers look at a car & see an orange light on where the indicator should be, they will react as though it was indicating, there's a difference to the scenario you've put forward.

 

[Audi Dynamik]

Daytime running lights | AA

Lets highlight the point out of that article
"Daytime running lights are designed to come on automatically when the engine is started - all other lights should remain off."

Highlighting the fact it says "Daytime running lights" and not "Indicators"

 

[hades-]

and the drl should turn off when main lights are ON

if you set the audi to then on they do stay on with main lights

 

[Audi Dynamik]

Yes but allot of these cars have separate indicators & the daily drivers know this already, but if the drivers look at a car & see an orange light on where the indicator should be, they will react as though it was indicating, there's a difference to the scenario you've put forward.

Yeah i completely agree with you, I am on your side here, I am completely against the indicator as DRL theory.
The Bmw ones are not fully orange like an indicator though so they can get away with it where as an indicator is fully orange people will think your indicating when in theory your not.

 

[Audi Dynamik]

and the drl should turn off when main lights are ON

if you set the audi to then on they do stay on with main lights

They "Should" turn off but they do not, this isnt a legal requirement so Audi have designed it so they stay on with the headlights not only to be extra safe than just headlights on there own but to style the car too.

 

[NHN]

Yeah i completely agree with you, I am on your side here, I am completely against the indicator as DRL theory.

Sorry I should of quoted Boons post in my reply, as it wasn't in reply to yours

Edited previous post to reflect

 

[Audi Dynamik]

Oh right was wondering
I have just edited that post too.

 

[Tom elliott]

Do u have coding to turn this mod off as my car has just failed mot on this

 

[ch1z64]

Taken to a garage who know what they are doing with Vcd's or check out the Vcd's map here and see if someone close to you had vcds and van take off for you

 

[Adomas G]

So much misconception here lads...

First off sorry for digging up and old thread but you’re all making this seem like this mod is certain to cause a crash every mile. I have my 2006 A3 set up this way (with 1/3 of brightness) and it works the following way. When lights are off indicators are off except when indicating. When parks/low beams are on the indicators come on at 1/3 brightness. When you’re indicating the bulb at appropriate side is alternating between fully off and 100% bright and after it comes back to being 1/3 constantly on. Sorry to be captain obvious here but when this is being compared to reverse or brake lights you probably forgot Volvos, BMWs and Range Rovers run amber sidelights on EU models...

 

[Gm95]

So much misconception here lads...

First off sorry for digging up and old thread but you’re all making this seem like this mod is certain to cause a crash every mile. I have my 2006 A3 set up this way (with 1/3 of brightness) and it works the following way. When lights are off indicators are off except when indicating. When parks/low beams are on the indicators come on at 1/3 brightness. When you’re indicating the bulb at appropriate side is alternating between fully off and 100% bright and after it comes back to being 1/3 constantly on. Sorry to be captain obvious here but when this is being compared to reverse or brake lights you probably forgot Volvos, BMWs and Range Rovers run amber sidelights on EU models...

Out of interest, how did you set it up with that much intelligence on your A3?

I know everyone will have different opinions but personally I have nothing against this mod, I've seen it on loads of MK5 golfs and I think it looks really smart.

 

[Adomas G]

Out of interest, how did you set it up with that much intelligence on your A3

“That much intelligence” no, I was being sarcastic in my last post haha...

I got myself a second-hand VCDS cable when I retrofitted a set of factory xenons as it was cheaper than any garage around the area and decided to do a few other mods while I was at it, for example I also turned the inner fog light into a parking light so the whole cluster lights up but it still fully functions as a fog light... but regarding the indicators I had to play with the brightness a bit because I didn’t like it being overly bright and I think 33% looks ok...

 

[Gm95]

“That much intelligence” no, I was being sarcastic in my last post haha...

I got myself a second-hand VCDS cable when I retrofitted a set of factory xenons as it was cheaper than any garage around the area and decided to do a few other mods while I was at it, for example I also turned the inner fog light into a parking light so the whole cluster lights up but it still fully functions as a fog light... but regarding the indicators I had to play with the brightness a bit because I didn’t like it being overly bright and I think 33% looks ok...

Hm, I also like the idea of the fog lights... I'd be very interested in coding you changed to enable both the fogs and indicators if you still recall.