REVO vs AMD stage 1 what ya reckon?

[Joeeey]

Stage 1 is on the cards very soon, just wondering... REVO or AMD. What peoples opinions are and if anyone has dealt with both?

also I heard that when you do the remap you need to be upgrading the diverter valve?

Cheers guys! :icon_thumright:

 

[Tay]

What about APR or Shark?

 

[S3Alex]

Stage 1 is on the cards very soon, just wondering... REVO or AMD. What peoples opinions are and if anyone has dealt with both?

also I heard that when you do the remap you need to be upgrading the diverter valve?

Cheers guys! :icon_thumright:

Firstly the DV.

If your car has a Rev D valve,then you don't need an uprated DV.

As for remaps,all of the current favourites such as AMD,Revo,Shark and APR,will provide roughly the same power at each stage,but may feel different in use.

I have Revo on mine,but I can also say that the backup and service from AMD is second to none.....they will set it up on your car,get it working to your liking,and look after you once it's running.

 

[Ben S3 8P3]

Firstly the DV.

If your car has a Rev D valve,then you don't need an uprated DV.

As for remaps,all of the current favourites such as AMD,Revo,Shark and APR,will provide roughly the same power at each stage,but may feel different in use.

I have Revo on mine,but I can also say that the backup and service from AMD is second to none.....they will set it up on your car,get it working to your liking,and look after you once it's running.

Could you give me a lesson in upgrading DV's with mapping please S3 Alex or anyone else. Is this something you have to do with Stage 1? I hadn't heard about having to do this for this for stage 1, cheers

 

[S3Alex]

Could you give me a lesson in upgrading DV's with mapping please S3 Alex or anyone else. Is this something you have to do with Stage 1? I hadn't heard about having to do this for this for stage 1, cheers

The original DV on the S3 8P was prone to splitting and losing boost on remapped cars.

The later Rev D valve is similar in design to aftermarket valves such as the forge and is much better in that respect.

This has a picture of a Rev D valve.

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-...-did-they-make-revision-g-diverter-valve.html

 

[elrao]

Alex - did AmD do your REVO mapping?

 

[S3Alex]

Alex - did AmD do your REVO mapping?

From Stg1 to Stg4.

 

[elrao]

So do they still do REVO along with their own maps? (Sorry its a bit off topic)

 

[S3Alex]

So do they still do REVO along with their own maps? (Sorry its a bit off topic)

The last time I was there yes.

 

[Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.]

We're not too far from Rotherham if you want something a little above what the others offer

Rick

 

[jimojameso]

I had revo done at AMD. Very impressed with it.

My mate has an S3 also. He started off with the AMD map and didn't like it so got them to put revo on it for him. He said the revo map was much better hence why i got AMD to do Revo for me.

 

[elrao]

Did he say what he didn't like about AmD map? Just found out the car I'm buying - and was due to have REVO'd - already has AmD map on it.

Seems a waste of money to re-remap! Am planning a stage 2+ ultimately, so would be the difference in AmD 2+ and REVO 2+

 

[jimojameso]

My friend didn't get the figures he was expecting at a dyno day. He then got revo put on. Got better figures and said the car pulled much, much better.

 

[elrao]

Assume AmD dyno'd it at the time (their rollers are generous...), do you know if it was massively down from what they originally said?

Am hoping AmD will have a record of the rolling road print out for my new car

 

[S3Alex]

Assume AmD dyno'd it at the time (their rollers are generous...), do you know if it was massively down from what they originally said?

Am hoping AmD will have a record of the rolling road print out for my new car

Not really that generous.

When my car was first mapped(a while ago at Stg1),it initially barely made the claimed 260bhp before being done,and every time since it's been pretty much where it should be,with no wild figures being found.

It also fits in pretty well with previous cars I've owned so my own opinion was that they're pretty close to being correct.

 

[elrao]

I now have the option of whether to stick with AmD or switch to REVO for 'free'...... I made the deal on the car to include the REVO map, then they found out it had an AmD one on it already and asked me if I wanted it done still. Sales manager is saying that was the deal and they will honour it, but seems a bit of a waste. All they could offer me instead was a discount on the cambelt change (£200 inc) that the car needs in ~8m (Car is 4y 4m old with 65k miles so hasn't hit Audi recommended interval yet, but I;d get this done immediately if I took them up on this offer.)

 

[S3Alex]

I now have the option of whether to stick with AmD or switch to REVO for 'free'...... I made the deal on the car to include the REVO map, then they found out it had an AmD one on it already and asked me if I wanted it done still. Sales manager is saying that was the deal and they will honour it, but seems a bit of a waste. All they could offer me instead was a discount on the cambelt change (£200 inc) that the car needs in ~8m (Car is 4y 4m old with 65k miles so hasn't hit Audi recommended interval yet, but I;d get this done immediately if I took them up on this offer.)

I'd see what the dyno figures from AMD were,and if they're in the ballpark of what the Revo map would offer,then you have a bit of a choice on your hands re the cambelt!

 

[elrao]

Have asked Ben to see if they have a record of it. Nothing based on the registration on the computer, but Fontain have given him the previous owners details and they found a record of doing the map back in 2009. Hoping they'll have a record of the dyno. The other consideration is what is best at stage 2+. If I stick with AmD then I should qualify for £100 off a DSG remap (if I go for it) or get the AmD stage 2+ map at 50% off if I get a full Milltek from them. On the other hand REVO gives me the option of an SPS and also has a wider dealer network.

 

[Autograph Cars]

I can't really comment on REVO as we don't do it, but as far as I know it generally does what it says on the tin! The main difference between the AmD maps and REVO are that REVO run more midrange boost giving more of a kick in the back when it starts pulling. I always think of the AmD stuff as a bit more 'grown up' if that makes sense? Much smoother power delivery and drives more like the factory setup.

We are an AmD dealer but also have the facility to custom tune any of the AmD maps to suit the car, so if you want more midrange torque like the REVO maps, then we can give it to you. As far as Stage 2+ goes, all our Stage 2+ maps are custom done for each car because it's the only way to make sure each individual car is as it should be.

If the car is an S-Tronic then we can also custom write a gearbox map to suit any shift requirements... Have a look at this for more info: http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/volkswagen-other-vag/179361-autograph-cars-credit-where-%E2%80%99s-due.html

 

[elrao]

Thanks, have looked at gearbox maps. What you did for that Golf sounds like what I'd want - there are a couple of things in the stock DSG gearbox remap that I didn't like the sound of.

However you are a bit far away, as I'm in Essex - about 10 miles from AmD

 

[S3 syc]

Assume AmD dyno'd it at the time (their rollers are generous...), do you know if it was massively down from what they originally said?

Am hoping AmD will have a record of the rolling road print out for my new car

all this amd,s rollers are generous really is a myth mine has stage2 from amd and I've been to numerous rolling road days since and it always put out same power give or take 1 or 2 bhp.

 

[elrao]

Have had a couple of my cars go on and all have come out with a higher max than on other rollers, so speaking purely from my own experience there.

Also went to an R32OC RR day and almost everyone got higher numbers than expected, even the stock cars! Maybe they've been re calibrated since then?

 

[S3Alex]

Have had a couple of my cars go on and all have come out with a higher max than on other rollers, so speaking purely from my own experience there.

Also went to an R32OC RR day and almost everyone got higher numbers than expected, even the stock cars! Maybe they've been re calibrated since then?

I can only quote my own experiences and results which were right on the money so to speak.

So much depends on things like air temp and so on that it can vary but if you get consistent results then you know which way you're going.

 

[ben@amdessex]

Just to confirm, so there is no confusion. Autograph cars are not a dealer of ours "AmD Tuning/AmD Essex" and are not associated with us. We only have two dealers, one in Harrow and the other in Northampton.

As for our dyno, we ran 5 standard cars just yesterday and they all made within a couple of horse power of the standard claimed outputs.

 

[elrao]

Wasn't meant to go off-topic, its all relative - if you dyno before and after a modification then the relative gain is real!

Also not meant to be a dig at AmD as I've used them for a number of cars in the past and wouldn't be planning a 2+ upgrade there if I wasn't happy.

Could also be that the other RR days I've been too have all been on the low side. To be fair the R32OC day was f***ing freezing!

Interesting what you say about Autograph, as their website says "AmD Manchester" - official distributor for AmD Technik tuning products.

Didn't realise that AmD Technik and AmD Essex were different entities, they have you down as one of their UK distributors like Autograph. So I assume its the same underlying map?

 

[ben@amdessex]

Morning,

Hopefully this will help clear up any confusion

Without going into the boring details the owner of AmD Tuning and AmD Essex, Shaun Hollamby is also 50% owner of AmD Technik but no longer has any control of the AmD Technik website or imput. The only AmD's we can vouch for are AmDEssex.com and AmDTuning.com. We trade as AmD Tuning and AmD Essex because we wish to run AmD one way and don't agree with how the other half of the Technik brand was being run, hence 4-5 years ago we started promoting AmD Tuning and AmD Essex.

This dealer and any others mentioned on the Technik website are not associated with us (AmD Tuning/AmD Essex) in any way.