W3STY's Progress Thread

[StaceyS3]

It will sound different with the mani but not sure how much different?

Shame about the down pipe blowing does it rub at all?

 

[bigcheese]

Definately mate but i really know how all them thoughts and paranoia runs through your head when you hear even the slightest of noise after a rebuild, but am glad to say it all so far looks like sucess

Was feeling pretty shagged yesterday afternoon as got home and mrs wanted to watch a film and i kept nodding off to her disgust lol then ******** off out for the bros b day but did come home bit early and had a long nights slight and lay in and feel pretty refreshed

Just got to motivate myself to work on mine next week

You guys there that late last night?

Yeah we was there till about 1:30am I think, time is just one big blur still!!!

Neil, if you want I'm around next weekend I think tam is too we can have a go at it??

 

[Prawn]

Where's it blowing Westy? At the top or on the two bolt flange half way down? Both should be easily sorted shouldn't they? Don't have to remove the DP totally to change the gkaset, just push it acorss a tad!

 

[Westy]

Yeah we was there till about 1:30am I think, time is just one big blur still!!!

Neil, if you want I'm around next weekend I think tam is too we can have a go at it??

Maybe mate yeah. Thanks.

I need to know for sure if is blowing first but it does sound a bit weird when the turbo spools. It spools so easy and smooth now compared to the old mani. The pedal feel from the clutch is a delight too but feels like I'm driving a 1 litre van or something haha.

 

[Westy]

Where's it blowing Westy? At the top or on the two bolt flange half way down? Both should be easily sorted shouldn't they? Don't have to remove the DP totally to change the gkaset, just push it acorss a tad!

Can't tell at the moment mate. Wait till I get some pics uploaded and I'll show you the difficulties we had with the DP! We had to grind down the edge of the flange by the top bolt as it was hitting runner 4 on the mani. Total nightmare.

 

[s3dave]

Dont leave it ticking over if you can help it westy it needs to be driven through the rev range with plenty of engine braking... esp the crucial first 20 miles....:icon_thumright:

 

[Westy]

Dont leave it ticking over if you can help it westy it needs to be driven through the rev range with plenty of engine braking... esp the crucial first 20 miles....:icon_thumright:

So rev it as much as I want???

 

[Reesy]

Was chatting to Ben at parsons performance and he said to try and keep the driving as varied as possible and not to sit at the same revs for too long, then after 500 miles dump the oil and go for it! Those 500 miles will seem to take forever though

 

[s3dave]

So rev it as much as I want???

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

 

[Jimgrim77]

All sounds great, i wouldnt worry. The mani sounds really weird when first installed. Like a free flowing exhaust noise from the top of the downpipe area. Sounds awesome from outside the car when gassing it. You wont' really hear it till about 4000rpm. See how It goes.

 

[s3dave]

Yeah mine is a totally different noise, with my fanken-manni coupled with the AGU head

 

[Westy]

Ok so after a quick skim read of that article I mitt as well just drive normally and nail it! Sweet.

 

[Prawn]

DOn't limit the revs Westy, unplug the N75 and give it death!

 

[Westy]

DOn't limit the revs Westy, unplug the N75 and give it death!

Ah ok, so don't go boost mental then?

 

[Prawn]

no, load is important, but if you don't want to go mad with it.

Plenty of throttle, and use the revs too, take it to 6K or so.

The old believe is that the rings take ages to 'wear' into the bore.

Modern thinking is that higher cylinder pressure get into the Ring lands and forces the rings out into the bores harder thus creating a better 'scrape' so to speak.

 

[Westy]

Thanks lads. I'll pull the N75 tomorrow morning and start using the rev range

 

[superkarl]

but change the oil after first 20 miles though? correct? this is when the most material is worn off into the oil.

 

[Westy]

but change the oil after first 20 miles though? correct? this is when the most material is worn off into the oil.

Really? I'll read that link properly today so I know what to do.

 

[Welly]

Good work mate, glad it came together in the end. Damn these 1.8Ts....

 

[superkarl]

Really? I'll read that link properly today so I know what to do.

its very important, and logical:

Change Your Oil Right Away !!
The best thing you can do for your engine is to change your oil and filter after the first 20 miles. Most of the wearing in process happens immediately, creating a lot of metal in the oil. Plus, the amount of leftover machining chips and other crud left behind in the manufacturing process is simply amazing !! You want to flush that stuff out before it gets recycled and embedded in the transmission gears, and oil pump etc...

^taken from the site

so basically you can do your initial full load runs, however many they recommend, 4-5. then drop the oil and change for more mineral oil. then go about your 500miles driving at varying speeds and loads. then you're done :icon_thumright:

 

[Westy]

It's time for some pictures

I dont really need to do a full write so I'll just post lots of pics with a few notes

All the gear set aside ready to start



Tam and Pete arrived with the engine hoist and engine stand then persuaded me to remove the block so we got cracking:

Gear box off ready for new clutch and flywheel:

Old flywheel and clutch:

Head was then separated from the block:

More pics coming..................

 

[Westy]

With the head off from the block we split into 2 teams. Tam and Pete on head duty, Stacey and myself doing the block work.

Tam and Pete set about changing over the VVT unit and Cams from the BAM head to the AEB head:

While Stace and I were doing the rods, piston rings, and oil pump................and the honing:

The mani was also put on the head then the head was put back on the block:

Also here you can see the fitment issues we had with the DP and Mani:

Then the engine went back in:

We did remove the DP and re-attached it with the engine hanging in the bay as it was easier due to us only dropping the subframe an inch or so.

 

[Westy]

Before I forget, I need to say some thank yous.

This build wouldn't have even been possible without the help I got this weekend from Tam, Pete, and Stacey. These lads know their stuff and were willing to work through to silly o'clock each night with very minimal sleep.

I also need to thank Jason, my parts advisor, for all the bits he's ordered in for me over the last 6 months.

Cheers guys I owe you all big time

 

[Sam_]

Looking awesome mate. Bet you can't wait for it all to be run in so you can give it some. It'll be nice not to worry about rods every time you plant it too...

 

[StaceyS3]

Before I forget, I need to say some thank yous.

This build wouldn't have even been possible without the help I got this weekend from Tam, Pete, and Stacey. These lads know their stuff and were willing to work through to silly o'clock each night with very minimal sleep.

I also need to thank Jason, my parts advisor, for all the bits he's ordered in for me over the last 6 months.

Cheers guys I owe you all big time

No probs mate glad could have helped and to be honest enjoyed the weekend as tiring as it was even though i didn't quite do the full stretch

Hows she driving now is it a relief to be back in it?

 

[Westy]

No probs mate glad could have helped and to be honest enjoyed the weekend as tiring as it was even though i didn't quite do the full stretch

Hows she driving now is it a relief to be back in it?

It's a shame you weren't there for the start up as Pete came back just to see it then ended up helping and staying till nearly 2am lol

It's driving really nice. Feels so smooth and firm with the new engine mounts.

 

[s3dave]

Great , Did you have to re-gap the rings?

 

[StaceyS3]

It's a shame you weren't there for the start up as Pete came back just to see it then ended up helping and staying till nearly 2am lol

It's driving really nice. Feels so smooth and firm with the new engine mounts.

Am pretty gutted that i missed it mate but at least shes done

I'm not surprised it feels more firm after seeing how much firmer new mounts are compared to mine or your old ones it is night and day difference to feel in your hands so glad that has transposed to how it drives

 

[Westy]

Great , Did you have to re-gap the rings?

All rings were within the tolerance levels specified on Elsawin so no filing needed.

 

[aragorn]

All rings were within the tolerance levels specified on Elsawin so no filing needed.

See, told ya

And remember, dont granny it, n75 off and a controlled spanking for 25miles, oil change and then use it properly.

 

[Westy]

See, told ya

And remember, dont granny it, n75 off and a controlled spanking for 25miles, oil change and then use it properly.

Also Kev, the honing was a piece of cake

So after 25 miles and an oil change can I pop the N75 back on and crank my boost back up?

There's so much mixed info regarding bedding in an engine.

 

[aragorn]

I kept my N75 off for about 750miles.

I posted how i ran my engine in in another thread recently, let me find it.

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-forum-8l-chassis/154519-best-way-run-new-build.html#post1544466

 

[S3 TAM]

Before I forget, I need to say some thank yous.

This build wouldn't have even been possible without the help I got this weekend from Tam, Pete, and Stacey. These lads know their stuff and were willing to work through to silly o'clock each night with very minimal sleep.

I also need to thank Jason, my parts advisor, for all the bits he's ordered in for me over the last 6 months.

Cheers guys I owe you all big time

No Probs matey, I'm glad it all came together above all it was a great to have a lads weekend covered in oil.
Can't wait to crank up the boost and see what it can do...

I feel like S**t today but at least it's good to sit down. LOL

 

[Westy]

Just been out a did 20 miles of hard driving with the N75 off. Up to 30 miles in total now so I'll drop the oil tomorrow and put the 5W 40 platinum oil in.

Also picked up a new fuse for the overun pump and my rad fans have also burst into life. Happy days.

 

[aragorn]

i'd stick to cheap mineral oil for a while longer yet mate, you'll ideally need to do another 2 or 3 changes before you get to 500miles.

 

[S3 TAM]

just found these on my phone and thought i need to share them.

Edit:

Forgot to mention stacey had his c*ck up neils **** in the second photo.

 

[StaceyS3]

just found these on my phone and thought i need to share them.

Edit:

Forgot to mention stacey had his c*ck up neils **** in the second photo.

Ssshhh that was supposed to be secret

I pressed like for that post just after you edited and wrote that but hadn't refreshed it to see it... nnnoooooo can i remove it lol

 

[Welly]

Yay, the customary engine bay shot.... lol

 

[aragorn]

Ssshhh that was supposed to be secret

I pressed like for that post just after you edited and wrote that but hadn't refreshed it to see it... nnnoooooo can i remove it lol

When i "like" something, the "like" option changes to "unlike" so you can remove it again, doesnt yours do that?

 

[Westy]

When i "like" something, the "like" option changes to "unlike" so you can remove it again, doesnt yours do that?

Mine doesn't do that it just disappears.