I think there's still plenty more power to be had before you need to go hybrid or bigger turbo.
Hi what do you mean by this dave?
Basically, big turbo is quite far down the road in terms of modifying S3s. Remap will take you past 300bhp, any more than that and you'll start having clutch issues (I know, it's the torque more than the bhp but it's a good guideline). Exhaust and intake will open up stage 2 maps, then you'll need a high-pressure fuel pump upgrade (just uprated internals into the existing pump is easiest way) and possibly FMIC for stage 2+, though that was more an 8L issue than 8P. Once that's all out of the way, you should be comfortably past 350bhp and starting to look at big turbo alternatives.
Remember to sort the suspension and brakes along the way too - understeer is quite drastic even with standard power, and the brakes will start to fade quite quickly once you get used to the extra power (or so I've heard). And insurance will probably try to take your house once you start seeing >25% gains (the reason my stage 2 is currently on hold).
Thanks mate... it seems as a massive headache to me remapping to stage 2.. Currently pushing out 310bhp thats pretty quick as it is.. im gonna look more into a stage 2 remap and hopefully get it done(gotta start filling the piggy bank first lol)
As Alex said as well as going big turbo, you need to uprate everything else so it can handle it.
Thanks N8....I should also have said that the brakes and suspension will add a good bit more....
Brake kit....anywhere from £1800 up
Suspension.....easily £1200 and up
Haldex controller....£700 or so
As you say,if you upgrade the power,you need to uprate everything else,or you end up with something that goes in straight lines but doesn't stop or go round corners....
No worries Alex! I still want to experience a BT S3, regardless of the software
Once you get up to BT on an S3, you'd have probably been better off just getting an RS4 instead. Even getting everything sorted for a Stage 2+ is going to make the price gap painfully small.
Come on down to the next AMD open day,or maybe Inters next year....there should be a few around!
I went out in Martin's track spec 650bhp RS4 @ Inters, did 60 in 3.5s that was enough for me. Also drove my friends 600bhp track Norris Designs Evo last weekend! That was also out of this world
Yeh of course, I just went out/drove them. I agree - I am looking forward to owning a big bhp vag with all the trimmings in the future.
I love the fact your gonna have to save for stage 2, what did you think 2 BT turbos were going to cost on an S3
Once you get up to BT on an S3, you'd have probably been better off just getting an RS4 instead. Even getting everything sorted for a Stage 2+ is going to make the price gap painfully small.
Not really as a Stage+ S3's power: weight ratio is pretty much the same as an RS4's if not slightly better, if the S3 is making around 365 @ the fly. And apparently many RS4s were down 20-25 bhp from the factory quoted figures on many occasions.
If you ever need any help or whatever,there's a lot of them over on the other forum,and I'd certainly recommend AMDEssex,although I know you may have trouble with the software!
The guys over there have been a goldmine of information...
Ben Williamson from AVP did my cousins rebuild - I'd use him again and of corse Shark for the mapping! Will be good although a few ears off yet
i bet that was awesome n8 the rs and the evo a few years back i drove a 450bhp evo tommy mack edition and that was epic 0-60 really pushed me into the seat was impressed with itI went out in Martin's track spec 650bhp RS4 @ Inters, did 60 in 3.5s that was enough for me. Also drove my friends 600bhp track Norris Designs Evo last weekend! That was also out of this world
Ben now works at Revo Svc Ctr, so he may try and tempt you towards the dark side if there is a next time and you're needing a map!