Dane's Hybrid Conversion Thread
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Dane
Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4
Dane
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My new whip:
- Bill is there anything I can take pictures of later? save me driving over if nothing exciting has happened.
its in bits.. no exhaust, no downpipe, no turbo...... thanks to tuffty
I was fighting the manifold... which is a fecking **** of a job.. change of tack on this and new fittings ordered which I hope will ease the manufacture. All jigged up now.. just waiting on these new parts.
Dane
Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4
Dane
Had an 8L S3, a B5 RS4 now I have a B8 S4
Right so I've just got back from Bills - it feels like it takes forever in the micra!
The turbo now has a hole in it where it should be
Empty space where the mani and turbo usually are
Exhaust bits on the floor
And a turbo and manifold that looked to be in pretty good nick bit blurry though lol.
I'm going to go back on Wednesday to maybe see some manifold action mmmmm
The turbo now has a hole in it where it should be
Empty space where the mani and turbo usually are
Exhaust bits on the floor
And a turbo and manifold that looked to be in pretty good nick bit blurry though lol.
I'm going to go back on Wednesday to maybe see some manifold action mmmmm
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I might get lucky with a milltek too they were due for production this week apparently so we shall see. Canne wait like!
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Oh thats just not fair! He always said he would never make one. Wheres my dummy i need to spit it out of my pram lmao
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Bill's not silly. He knows that if his mani is good then they'll sell like hot cakes
Bill's not silly. He knows that if his mani is good then they'll sell like hot cakes
It's currently a very small market, with very few known to be long term reliable items in it at the end of the day. Well worth experimentation at least.
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Is the turbo being done without the head coming off ?
No doubt, Bill's manifold will get a lot of thought going into, could be the birth of the Badger5 K04 manifold lol
No doubt, Bill's manifold will get a lot of thought going into, could be the birth of the Badger5 K04 manifold lol
Dane
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Hey hey someone noticed! Yep the head is still on, although I may well have a leaky rocker cover seal.
Ahhh leaky rocker cover......10min job for Welly, Paul and Bill lol
Will be interesting to see what the results are with this hybrid build, especially with the custom manifold
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aside from this mk1's an **** of a job... so many little faults... comes in just for mapping, yea Right! ***
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manifold wise its an experiment.. and quite costly one for me in time and parts... but as I have no confidence in anything otherwise available currently (edit: forgot about the TSR one.. ruled out on cost basis only, not quality), needs must... Its not a simple job... We will see what transpires.
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Dane
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As i say keep the measurements bill,...lol you are probably just as close as all the other ones in development, the s3 is going to be in a museum waiting for JBS ,,
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Well good on you Bill for pushing the boundries if it wasnt for you i think we'd still be at about 320 bhp on the hybrids just a shame i had to be one of the first. So how much of a nightmare was it to take the manifold of with out the head off?
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actually I have one in stock with manifold to suit..
Dont tell me that. Come on National Lottery i need more power!
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Hi Bill,
You think the TSR one is not up to the job then ?
Or is it a cost/time scale thing that rules it out.
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Morgan
Bore size that lets it down - it's simply too big and makes the little lagless K04 drive like a BT car from what I have seen and heard....
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Hi Welly,
Do you have any data or links you can share from the example(s) you have seen/heard about ?
As far as I know only two are actually in existence... mine & one that I think was sold to someone from SCN but I have not heard anything more about that one⦠hence my interest in what you know.
A bit more lag was indeed observed during our own first tests but we are not talking about a huge amount..
After a little fettling the impact on spool times were quiet negligible... present yes but small. To be honest with some more tweaks I think it quiet possible they could be eliminated almost completely. (Bearing in mind the turbo also has a slightly weaker actuator, & ported waste gate compared to the logs I posted ages ago made with the stock mani)
Here is one log of our mani testing where we have saturated the MAP sensor by 3120rpm, so I would hardly describe that as lag similar to whatâs seen with BT's.. would you ?
Regards
Morgan
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Hi Welly,
Do you have any data or links you can share from the example(s) you have seen/heard about ?
As far as I know only two are actually in existence... mine & one that I think was sold to someone from SCN but I have not heard anything more about that one⦠hence my interest in what you know.
A bit more lag was indeed observed during our own first tests but we are not talking about a huge amount..
After a little fettling the impact on spool times were quiet negligible... present yes but small. To be honest with some more tweaks I think it quiet possible they could be eliminated almost completely.
Here is one log of our mani testing where we have saturated the MAP sensor by 3120rpm, so I would hardly describe that as lag similar to whatâs seen with BT's.. would you ?
Regards
Morgan
That paints a somewhat different picture to the data that I saw...
In retrospect, and taking the above into account that is not bad at all hitting full boost at 3100 is indeed not bad at all.
I will try and find the data I saw - I can't remember where it was as I was looking into it back when I was changing manifold every 2 mins late last year...
If I find it I shall PM you.
Adding to this, I have just glanced at the outputs from the hybrid on the XS power mani - that wasn't reaching full boost until 3500 using smaller runners than the TSR...
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