beanoir
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Nick = well said, makes a change
Told you Nath, new years res!
And it's my 4 year anniversary of being wed to AS.net today!
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Nick = well said, makes a change
We still have Paddy though
Ok, I didn't really want to post this, but here it goes. Can you people explain to me, why an S3 with 1800kg is matching this coupe in speed? Before people start doubting the weight figure:
Car with half a tank weighted is 1600 dead on. S3 sport-back with panoramic roof
Driver weighs 115kg (what can I say, I like food)
The co driver weighs 70-80kg
We were returning from Audi club trip, so 2-3 days' worth of baggage in the car as well.
BTW, the S3 had the known issue with the missfires back then, so you can assume that the remap was pretty much stock over 5900rpm to avoid valve floating. People from Cyprus will also notice my comments at the end of the vid, as I was amazed myself from the fact that the M3 couldn't get away at those speeds.
YouTube - S3 vs M3
What also amazes me is that the M3 (like the RS4) fails to produce the claimed power from the factory, M3 forums are full of examples, yet the owners choose not to know this. I don't mean to prove I own the best car between the 2, that would be idiotic. The M3 is a brilliant car, just not in the straight.
Take it from me, he wasn't flat out.
Ok, I didn't really want to post this, but here it goes. Can you people explain to me, why an S3 with 1800kg is matching this coupe in speed? Before people start doubting the weight figure:
Car with half a tank weighted is 1600 dead on. S3 sport-back with panoramic roof
Driver weighs 115kg (what can I say, I like food)
The co driver weighs 70-80kg
We were returning from Audi club trip, so 2-3 days' worth of baggage in the car as well.
BTW, the S3 had the known issue with the missfires back then, so you can assume that the remap was pretty much stock over 5900rpm to avoid valve floating. People from Cyprus will also notice my comments at the end of the vid, as I was amazed myself from the fact that the M3 couldn't get away at those speeds.
YouTube - S3 vs M3
What also amazes me is that the M3 (like the RS4) fails to produce the claimed power from the factory, M3 forums are full of examples, yet the owners choose not to know this. I don't mean to prove I own the best car between the 2, that would be idiotic. The M3 is a brilliant car, just not in the straight.
Take it from me, he wasn't flat out.
point is sub is the straight line speed, that was the original steer of the thread...and as said, stage 2+ is enough to beat an M3 on the straight on a 1/4 mile strip... i wouldnt class stage 2+ as heavily modded
i dont doubt the M3's credentials, but simple fact is, it isnthard to get an 8P S3 to beat one for pace..... i even considered one myself and would have had one were it more stable in the wet
I'm bored now.
I have had an S3, modded as well. I currently have both an S3 and an E46 M3 sitting on my drive, come the end of Feb I might have neither, I might still have both or I might get something else, but I tell you what....I really couldn't give a monkey's uncle which of them performs best on Youtube.
More importantly - Tim - How did you get on with the test drives today?
I have had 8 pints and will race you in either of those girls cars in the wife 1.0 Yaris with my X factor socks on.
So there.
im just arguing facts out of boredom mate.....
Come on then big nuts, lets do it! Pass me the scotch...
So, now I am a liar. Nice! Having both, why don't you try them out? Side by side.
shhhh, i'm waiting for Rich to come back and prove me wrong
Are you always this smart or you are trying hard today?
hahame too! i love the debates! especially with 2 cars that I have owned in the past.
Maybe I am underestimating the stage 2 S3's in a 1/4 mile, i will refer to your "Google results" as they must be all 100% legit haha! - Only playing...
2 things:
1: I have a picture of my car on my laptop, how do I post it for the guy with the black s3 who asked? I try to paste but it comes up with insert a URL link??
2: regarding my e92, can a stage 2 s3 run with mine too then? lmao who fancies a meet to finally sort this debate? (on a private road of course!) I found the rs4 quite a disappointment when I ran against one recently it just screamed out “look at me in my outdated a4 family car”. Guess I’ll have to see what the rs6's are like!
hahame too! i love the debates! especially with 2 cars that I have owned in the past.
Maybe I am underestimating the stage 2 S3's in a 1/4 mile, i will refer to your "Google results" as they must be all 100% legit haha! - Only playing...
2 things:
1: I have a picture of my car on my laptop, how do I post it for the guy with the black s3 who asked? I try to paste but it comes up with insert a URL link??
2: regarding my e92, can a stage 2 s3 run with mine too then? lmao who fancies a meet to finally sort this debate? (on a private road of course!) I found the rs4 quite a disappointment when I ran against one recently it just screamed out “look at me in my outdated a4 family car”. Guess I’ll have to see what the rs6's are like!
there's obviously always going to be a strong bias on here towards audi's... but seriously guys... there's really no need to be so defensive and/or offensive to each other! some posts are clearly "fanboy" comments!
sounds like a few people on here have owned both vehicles and should be able to comment from experience and those that have had the opportunity to drive in both will also have valid comments. everyone is of course entitled to their opinions...
stock vs stock, the E46 M3 is definitely quicker than S3 in a straight line as well as on track. this applies on paper/specs as well as in the real world! but as pointed out, it's not really a fair race/comparison - but this was the comparison drawn by the op.
E46 M3 vs RS4 (from equivalent era) is a much fairer comparison! but even then it's straight 6 vs V8... i'm sure top gear or fifth gear have done some kind bake off with the various versions of both of these cars.
M1 vs S3 is probably a fairer comparison... or perhaps M1 should be compared to RS3.
E92 M3 vs current/most recent RS4 is probably the fairest/most direct comparison - both V8s, right? has anyone seen a decent write up - i'd be interested in the results.
M5 vs RS6... both are absolute monsters!! I've been a passenger in both and really couldn't tell them apart in terms of acceleration in a straight line... partially because my head was almost snapped off in both cases!!
the audi 4 pot 2.0 T and previously the 1.8 T are probably some of the most tunable engines available. so it really does not surprise me if someone's tuned S3 kicks an E46 M3s ****! I don't even think an E46 M3 can be tuned to acheive much more than is available from the factory!
Audi vs BMW is probably one of the oldest motoring rivalries and it's definitely great to see bmw's dominance being challenged and bettered by Audi as well as by some other marques in various categories. this should hopefully continue to result in better and better cars for all of us to choose from and debate about!!
An 'A' for pointing ouyt the blinking obvious thats generous
We know what should be compared to what.....intrigue comes about when you compare an apple with a pear especially when the apple shouldn't look like a pear or sumat like that haha
Not to sure if its been discussed already but how would you guys say a S3 would do against a 335i or 135i as theses seem to be around the same price as a similar age S3.
Not to sure if its been discussed already but how would you guys say a S3 would do against a 335i or 135i as theses seem to be around the same price as a similar age S3.