Another hybrid conversion thread....

[Welly]

Thanks for the info dude. I think il wait for you to receive your and see what your feedback is.

What will you be doing with your Pipe Werx downpipe and de cat. 1st offers please if you want to sell it.

Nathan

OK mate, I'll bear that in mind....

I contacted JBS to and asked for a release date for there manifold

I asked them on Saturday at ADI. No firm answer, just a load of wibble about testing....

have you not seen the pictures of the 034 posted and compared??
wrong one dude
you just bought a k03 one

Yarp, that's K03-tacular.

Just read page 4! Ignore my injector question.

Those Bosch injectors you have ordered are the same ones as the new z06 'Vette are they not? As I thought these were 550cc at 4 bar?

Would 630cc siemens injectors do the job?

The IE site says they flow 550 at 43.5 PSI, which is 3 BAR, so fingers crossed.

I agree about having as bigger inlet as possible. I've seen setups that cannot make expected boost due to restrictive TIPs.

Opened them up and all was well after.

Good luck with the rest of the build. Interested to see how it goes when it's all buttoned up.

Cheers mate, I'm interested to see what will come of it after all this money I've thrown at it.... lol.

 

[Welly]

Andrew you said those vauxhall injectors would be ok though LOL Didn't Bill use Siemens injectors on Steves?

They were Bosch Green tops, 440s, normally used on Fords, and have a single spray cone.

 

[badger5]

from SCN a guy also running the new 034 mani.. not without its little issues, but his first drive impression is below:

What an evening, I just got back from picking up my car and all I can say is holy fu$k its awesome, as it stands it is completely uncivilised and just angry, I had a 50miles journey to collect it and i had to take it easy most of the way, on some of the slower roads my curiosity got the best of me and I gave the throttle a little blip here and there, i cannot believe how well this flows and how fast the spool is, its completely savage.

I will post pics of the stuff that was removed tomorrow but is in shockingly got condition, i guess it has only 40k on it.

Early start tomorrow, will be at the tuners all day to see what we can get out of here, if i have internet access i will post up power runs as we do them, it should be very very interested.

 

[Welly]

from SCN a guy also running the new 034 mani.. not without its little issues, but his first drive impression is below:

Tee hee hee

(Welly grins and rubs his hands together with glee)

 

[Welly]

I love Guinea Piging stuff sometimes... Hate it others....

 

[Speedy Steve]

Dame i go away for a few days and its all going on. Looking good Welly i cant wait to find out how you get on with the 034 i may just have to get one and Bill can fit it when i book my car in for its clutch hehe on and fit WMI best get saving!

 

[Welly]

Dame i go away for a few days and its all going on. Looking good Welly i cant wait to find out how you get on with the 034 i may just have to get one and Bill can fit it when i book my car in for its clutch hehe on and fit WMI best get saving!

I'll let you know results dude when I know - I knew you'd be interested in this bit.... lol!! :thumbsup:

 

[Dane]

Dame i go away for a few days and its all going on. Looking good Welly i cant wait to find out how you get on with the 034 i may just have to get one and Bill can fit it when i book my car in for its clutch hehe on and fit WMI best get saving!

You and me both!

 

[Speedy Steve]

Hell yes the manifold is the key to the Hybrid!!!!

 

[badger5]

and a 3" TIP (project underway now also) - Watch this space..

 

[Welly]

and a 3" TIP (project underway now also) - Watch this space..

I feel a bromance moment coming on....

 

[Speedy Steve]

If your making welly one bill you might aswell do one for me at the same time haha

 

[badger5]

Let's see how it goes first

 

[Welly]

Planning to mock up 034 Manifold fitment on a head and turbo tonight, so stand by for pics later on this evening....

 

[JD09]

Ouch buddy. That's some outlay for some extra horses! But by the sounds of how many extra horses, well worth it!

 

[mk1chopper]

now your going down the manifold route it would be interesting to see how the prices pair up against a big turbo conversion.

 

[Welly]

now your going down the manifold route it would be interesting to see how the prices pair up against a big turbo conversion.

Funny you should mention that, but Tuffty and I were talking about that yesterday.

The hardware prices between hybrid and BT are comparable when the manifold is included in the build.

Yes the BT will cost a mite more for the turbo itself, but only on the proviso that you have a worthy K04 for exchange. If not, they are about the same.

The main difference is the fitting however.

K04 hybrids simply bolt on. You go to Audi, you get the bits, and they fit. You buy your downpipe from the web, and it fits. Everything goes together nice and easy and the job can be done without any major headaches.

BT on the other hand, requires a lot of custom pipework. Downpipes aren't just an off the shelf item, and neither are TIPs for example. Coolant and oil lines are different and need to be custom made. Simply, that is where the cost of a BT conversion rises at a rapid rate.

IMO, hybrid with a manifold isn't really that much cheaper to buy the kit. It's getting it on the car that costs.

 

[Andrew@A.L.D]

Spoke to Dan@034 and he has given me a price for the 034 manifold inc P&P to the UK

$490 = about £309 ( not sure of the exchange rate right now ) not inc any import + handling tax's you get

 

[s3dave]

Spoke to Dan@034 and he has given me a price for the 034 manifold inc P&P to the UK

$490 = about £309 ( not sure of the exchange rate right now ) not inc any import + handling tax's you get

sounds good, group buy maybe..?

 

[Andrew@A.L.D]

I could ask him?

 

[IbanezDan51]

I would be interested in one aswell. But I could import this rather cheap as we get parts in every 2 weeks so may work out cheaper to source myself...be interesting though.

 

[s3dave]

I would be interested in one aswell. But I could import this rather cheap as we get parts in every 2 weeks so may work out cheaper to source myself...be interesting though.

Your the man then.....lol,

 

[Welly]

Speaking of said manifold..... here it is in a mock fit scenario.

We had some concerns with regard to fitment between the turbo and the manifold, and wanted to fit out of the car, as fitting in situ, you wouldn't know.

No issues at all with this one, although there have been reports with issues fitting others....

At least it show how much of a pain this will be to fit....

 

[Lemon S3]

I got my 034 for £260 when I was in the states. Asked if anyone else wanted one but for some reason no one did :s

 

[Welly]

I got my 034 for £260 when I was in the states. Asked if anyone else wanted one but for some reason no one did :s

I remember dude .

I didn't need on back then and wasn't planning on needing one either.

The sole reason this is being fitted is necessity. That large port head NEEDS a high flow manifold - I have never seen anything like the state of my manifold after a power run. Could of lit a fag off it!

 

[s3dave]

Looking good Welly...

 

[Welly]

Thanks mate, getting there I think...

Hoping my injectors arrive today

 

[mk1chopper]

I remember dude .

I didn't need on back then and wasn't planning on needing one either.

The sole reason this is being fitted is necessity. That large port head NEEDS a high flow manifold - I have never seen anything like the state of my manifold after a power run. Could of lit a fag off it!

So on the basis you have a small port head, the hybrid is still the most cost effective (parts wise) and easy method to reach 300bhp ,

 

[Welly]

So on the basis you have a small port head, the hybrid is still the most cost effective (parts wise) and easy method to reach 300bhp ,

Yep, I'd say that was fair.

 

[Dane]

I would imagine that a high flow mani would still give good results on a small port head

 

[Welly]

I would imagine that a high flow mani would still give good results on a small port head

Whilst I agree dude, it isn't a (well, is a less) necessary expense if a small port head is being used is the point.

Speedy Steve's hybrid setup is using a OEM mani with an SP Head and EGTs are significantly less.

Worth doing if you have £300 handy, but not needed.

 

[Dane]

Whilst I agree dude, it isn't a (well, is a less) necessary expense if a small port head is being used is the point.

Speedy Steve's hybrid setup is using a OEM mani with an SP Head and EGTs are significantly less.

Worth doing if you have £300 handy, but not needed.

Agreed, It'll be interesting to see how much of a difference all of you large pipes and ports make over Steve's and if £300 increases performance and potentially increases the longevity of enginer bay parts I'm in :thumbsup:

 

[Welly]

Agreed, It'll be interesting to see how much of a difference all of you large pipes and ports make over Steve's and if £300 increases performance and potentially increases the longevity of enginer bay parts I'm in :thumbsup:

Well, the performance differences seem to be torque related at this point in time. Final mapped product with the injectors, TIP and mani over last session should give a final figure.

 

[Dane]

Yep, no rush though I've got a couple of months to build up parts before I make final decisions lol

 

[badger5]

So on the basis you have a small port head, the hybrid is still the most cost effective (parts wise) and easy method to reach 300bhp ,

it aint easily reached. it works its rocks off to reach that level, and needs supporting mods to support the temp and flow

 

[Welly]

it aint easily reached. it works its rocks off to reach that level, and needs supporting mods to support the temp and flow

Yarp, poor little thing is spinning at flat out to hold 21 psi at redline.... lol.

 

[Andrew@A.L.D]

JBS replied

here is what they said....

Good Morning Andrew,

Many thanks for your enquiry with us at JBS.

Unfortunately the JBS K04 Cast Manifold is still not available as
yet, we have our final test vehicle coming in on Saturday before
sending the manifolds for their final production.

Please continue to keep an eye on the JBS websites news pages below
for any updates on the final release of this product.
News - JBS

Many thanks and look forward to hearing back from you.

Regards
Seb Hampson
Parts/Sales Advisor

 

[Dani_B19]

Well, will you post up pics and parts of your 3" TIP when you've done it, really want to fit one but im unsure of the 3" alloy joiner as it will need 4 ports adding to it for the dv etc.

 

[Lemon S3]

I take it the 3" tip will be made out of alloy, right? So there shouldnt be any collapsing issues, think I might make one tomorrow.

 

[Dani_B19]

The ones ive seen consist of a 3" silicone elbow from the MAF into a 3" alloy joiner then into a 3" to whatever the inlet on the turbo is elbow, the 3" alloy joiner has then been modified with variuos inlets for the dv, n75 etc.