As per the title:
http://pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19936
If I was in the market, I think I'd rather have this than an S3. Has that put the cat amongst the pigeons?
As per the title:
http://pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19936
If I was in the market, I think I'd rather have this than an S3. Has that put the cat amongst the pigeons?
2007/07 A3 Sportback 1.9TDi SE in Toucan Yellow and now debadged because my '.' fell off!
FWD only? That surprises me! I'm glad though
I paid extra to get quattro on my A3 and I paid the extra to get an S3 over anything else and I have no regrets!
Love the outside, but the interior still looks a bit naff (I find this with all VW's) and FWD is a let down, I dont think I could go without the quattro now
Nice car, but i'll be sticking with the S3
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Looks fantastic. Having considered a Scirocco GT for a short period whilst choosing my last car - that looks like exactly what I was after but the GT just let me down.
This only has two things wrong with it in my opinion - firstly the price. By the time you've put a few desirable options on there - Sat nav, Xenons, DSG - you're looking at circa £29k? Hmmm...
Also - lack of 4wd is surprising. 261bhp with a 0-60mph time of 6.odd seconds is frankly disappointing. It's a shame VW have pitched it right up against the RS price wise as if they could have offered a 4wd then I think it may have edged it.
Still - fantastic looking car, but I definitely won't be chopping the S3 in for one.![]()
Xenons were standard on the R32 weren't they? they should be on the R20 too.
Just did a bit of a configuration on a 2.0T GT and the extras I would want took it up to £27k. A few of them were things that are standard on the S3, like leather, floor mats and heated washers.
I wouldn't pay that for the R20, let alone the GT!
Nice car, a mates mum pics up her GT today so looking forward to seeing that tonight!
I dont know what I would have - both look great!
Can we stop calling it the R20 please, its title is the Scirocco R.
FWD is a bit pants though. Almost as bad as the fact we don't get any Sciroccos in Australia at all.
There's a bunch of information on AUSmotive about the car.![]()
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The interiors on these Scirocco's are bad quality, for the money they are you would expect much better.
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I'd still go for the S3 if I was in the market for that sort of thing.
I dont like the looks of the Scirocco. The interior is nice but not as good as the S3. S3 has 4WD. The S3 doesn't cost that much more either.
I'd rather have the MK6 GTI over it too. Not a fan.
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Ive had MK5 Gti with 250bhp, and unless VW have moved game on in a big way, the Rocco R will be a right handful in the wet and and even in the dry unless the wheels pointing straight ahead.
Fun sometimes, frustrating the rest.
Ok you can limit torque/bhp in the low gears, but personally I dont want `part time power`, thats a cop out IMO, I want it full time with traction to match.
My preference of course.
I think it looks great though, and could easily live with the trim assuming its slightly better than a Mk5 which i found very agreeable. Not as good as an S3, but it never will be, still good, and much better than its peers.
Give us a 4WD version, make it a bit cheaper than an S3, and would have one without a doubt (In white with REVO of course)
Cheers
Paul
Now:
Ibis S3 Sportback Black Ed, S Tronic, Open Sky, Tech Pack, Comfort pack, leccy seat, light pack, foldy mirrors, storage pack, rear parking sensors, through load etc...
Before:
BMW 320d M Sport Saloon
S3 (8P), Sprint, REVO, H&R Springs, BBS CHs,RNSE etc
Golf MK5 GTi 20TFSI - REVO Stage1, Red.
Golf MK5 GTi 20TFSI - Std, Shadow Blue
Civic Type `R`
Golf MK4 GTi 18T - 200bhp, MTM ECU, Forge DV
Golf MK3 VR6 - Cat Back
Corrado VR6 - JAMEX
Corrado G60 - JAMEX, BRM Charger rebuild
etc....
Are you sure? R20 indicates a replacement for the Golf R32 of course but then will they still make a replacement for the R32 when they have this? Would they really want to have 3 VW hot hatch models using a 2.0T (GTI, R20, Scirocco R)?
I think they will have the GTI at the top of the Golf line and then this as the super VW hatch and it be called the R20 to echo its indirect replacement.
And then the RS3......!
Yep, it's called the 'rocco R NOT the R20
Quote from Car Magazing website:
"Volkswagen has issued the first official details of the new Scirocco R. We've been scooping it as the anticipated Scirroco R20T – and while our technical information was spot-on, the name has been changed at the last minute we're informed. So it's farewell R20T (and, presumably, R32 and R36 elsewhere in VW's range) and hello R.
It seems likely that all future hot VWs will be badged simply R and ditch the numerals. Which neatly avoids highlighting that the industry is downsizing frantically, as well as simplifying the range of go-faster Volkswagens produced by Wolfsburg's Individual department "
New R badge
Interesting comment about the Golf...
Maybe the Golf R will be AWD to distance it from the 'rocco R???
RS3.... yep, that is the one for me!
Nice looking car in the pictures and I do like the wheels, I think the interior looks good too but I'm not sure about the door armrest. Would like to see one in the flesh though.
Two wheel drive musn't work too well with this power as the 0-60 is over six seconds
I'd stay with the S3
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A3 2.0 TDI Sport April 04 - May 08
The interior is a let down yeah but I really do love the look of the exterior! Especially this pic:
I bet those wheels are optional extras though.
Are they not the new RS6 reps?
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Why are u complaining about the interior ? I love 'rocco's interior.. It just fits and completes its exterior..
Regarding The FWD, it's typical of a 2.0T engine ..
And speaking about the " R " line. The scirocco R is never a replacement for the Golf R32. Remember that R32 is a V6 AWD, and I've heard more than once that it will be in market again in 2011 (2012?) with an R36 engine..
I really like it. It looks fast too! but for a daily driver the 260 at the front wheels might be a handful, but then itd probally be dull like the quattros if it was awd.
Its gonereplaced with a mk2 golf gti 16v :D
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Just looked at that rear quarter photo...
...and now I'm nursing a semi.
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