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    ABS module won't code with VCDS???

    I have just put my B6 Avant back to standard (removed MFSW, RNS-E and Bluetooth module) and now i have brake and abs warnings on dash. I even put the original slipring and steering wheel control module back on. The faults i'm getting are
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
    Component: ABS/ESP allrad 1726
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 2648138DE861

    2 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
    35-00 - -

    When i use VCDS (genuine lead) i enter the correct coding which should be Coding: 04255
    Shop #: WSC 06435
    which i saved a couple of years ago before the upgrades it does not take even though VCDS appears to go through the process.

    Do i need to login first to make these changes to the coding and if so what is the login code?

    To be honest i can't understand why the ABS module has lost it's coding as i haven't touched anything to do with the ABS or is it just a coincidence?
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    Sounds like your Steering Angle Sensor needs to be reaught.

    ESP Steering Angle Sensor Calibration
    (Courtesy of Ross-Tech: Home)
    Updated 29 Mar. 2005
    Ross-Tech is not responsible for any damage or problems that may result from following these instructions. They are to be used at your own risk. As always, you should refer to a Factory Repair Manual for your vehicle!
    This procedure details how to perform the zero position calibration for the Steering Angle Sensor (G85) in many VW/Audi vehicles equipped with ESP (Electronic Stability Program).

    This procedure should be performed when vehicle alignment is performed or if any of the following components have been removed or replaced:
    • ABS/EDL/ASR/ESP control unit (J104)
    • Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    • Steering Column
    There are certain test conditions that must be met before doing this procedure:
    • Start the vehicle. Turn the steering wheel one turn to the right and one turn to the left.
    • Drive in a short distance straight line on a level surface at a speed not higher than 20 km/h.
    • If the steering wheel is straight during the test drive then stop the vehicle with the wheels pointed straight
    • Ensure that the steering wheel is not moved again.
    • Keep the engine running and do not switch off the ignition.
    Procedure for performing the zero position calibration for the Steering Angle Sensor (G85) on VW Passat and Audi A4/S4, A6/S6, and A8/S8:

    [Select]
    [03 - ABS Brakes]
    [Login - 11]
    Enter 40168
    [Do It!]
    [Basic Settings - 04]
    Group 001
    [Go!]
    This will store the zero (centered) position of the steering wheel. There should be a displayed message that reads: "Steer. angle sender compens OK". If you get an error, it may mean the Login was not successfully performed.
    Click the [Done, Go Back] button and you're all set.
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    Thanks for that I'll give it a go tomorrow and report back.
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    Well that didn't work when i go to basic settings and group 001 theres just an error message in the fields tried umpteen times same result. Did a full scan and got a few other codes to.

    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
    Component: ABS/ESP allrad 1726
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 2648138DE861

    2 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
    35-00 - -

    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 907 279 E
    Component: int. Lastmodul RDW 0305
    Coding: 00001
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    VCID: 346CF9C52EBD

    1 Fault Found:
    01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
    79-10 - Please Check Fault Codes - Intermittent

    Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 8Z0-919-283.lbl
    Part No: 8Z0 919 283 A
    Component: Parkingsyst. A4 RDW D07
    Coding: 00114
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    VCID: 438EAA197B13

    1 Fault Found:
    00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

    The plot thickens.
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    When you refitted the slip ring etc you could & probably have bent some pins as a number have on the A4, remove & check & refit, then test again.

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    The loss of coding is normal on a Bosch 5.3 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP -or- Bosch 5.7 (ESP also) vehicle when the slip ring / G85 sensor is disconnected. In this case you need to:

    1) Build the Login specific to the equipment installed in the car and enter it.
    2) Build the Coding and enter it
    3) Run the G85 calibration / Basic Settings

    All three of those steps must be done on the same ignition cycle and diagnostic session with VCDS as explained here:

    Audi A4 (8E) Brake Electronics (Bosch 5.7) - Ross-Tech Wiki

    If you know the old coding (based on a previous scan) work that chart backwards to determine the login without digging through the trunk for the PR# tag.

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    Thanks Dana worked straight away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana @ Ross-Tech View Post
    The loss of coding is normal on a Bosch 5.3 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP -or- Bosch 5.7 (ESP also) vehicle when the slip ring / G85 sensor is disconnected. In this case you need to:

    1) Build the Login specific to the equipment installed in the car and enter it.
    2) Build the Coding and enter it
    3) Run the G85 calibration / Basic Settings

    All three of those steps must be done on the same ignition cycle and diagnostic session with VCDS as explained here:

    Audi A4 (8E) Brake Electronics (Bosch 5.7) - Ross-Tech Wiki

    If you know the old coding (based on a previous scan) work that chart backwards to determine the login without digging through the trunk for the PR# tag.
    Hello Dana,
    I've got a similar problem. How do i know which login/code is right by reading that sticker the "PR" codes from my car its a VW passat 2002. So far there are only 2 parts of that PR codes on that sticker 1ZC and T9J that match the information for login and coding for vw passat on your webiste. So is this normal i could find only these 2 and correct me maybe im wrong but if i take only these 2 for consideration then the login would be 09555 and the code 04255.
    I'm asking because I manage to login and code the abs and esp but the esp started to flash again on my dash it happens after i drove a mile or something its pretty random. The login and the code that I used is not these 2 above. I used 09355 and 04455. Is it possible that i have still the problem with esp because it was coded improperly. I doubt there is a problem with the sensor itself because before i didnt have any problems with that but i will have to check that aswell.
    Your help will be appreciated.

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    I suggest you email support@ross-tech.com stating your serial number of your cable & they will advise directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    I suggest you email support@ross-tech.com stating your serial number of your cable & they will advise directly.
    Ok thanks for advice. Why do I need to state the serial number of the cable? Is that important for login/code later ?

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    Is it not genuine then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitman View Post
    Ok thanks for advice. Why do I need to state the serial number of the cable? Is that important for login/code later ?
    Because Ross-Tech only supports legitimate registered users of our product. If you have not registered with us, then the first step in contacting us is to identify who you are and the license serial number we issued for a real genuine VCDS system. Without proper vetting, we will not give any support.
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    ahh ok. Well I dont have the vcds system at all thats why i was asking why is it so important. It was done by my friends mechanic and he didnt seems to know what login/code should it be thats why im trying to find out by myself. Have to contact him for that number then.
    Regards.

 

 

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