- Joined
- Jan 11, 2004
- Messages
- 3,430
- Reaction score
- 10
- Points
- 38
- Location
- Koh Samui, Thailand
- Website
- www.b3ta.com
Some people have recently posted about issues with their electric windows not operating correctly. The problem manifests itself when the window fails to rise after being fully opened. The window will rise a small amount, the stop and roll down again leaving the driver a bit stuck!
I pulled apart a friends door at work to try and get to the bottom of it. This isn't a definative guide, its just a few pics to illustrate what goes wrong (didn't have time to take more photos as I was on my lunch break!)
Anyways, here is a pic of the door subframe removed from the door and the glass removed from the subframe and lifter mech.
The two light blue squares are what the window bolts to and these are attached to the lifter mech wires.
Here is a closeup of one of the clips.
Lifting one of the clips up you can see how the wire attaches. This is what a good clip looks like.
Now here is the underside of a faulty clip. As you can see part of the plastic has broken off.
In this state the wire can slip out of the clip when the user attempts to raise the window. In this case the front edge was pulled upwards whilst the rear edge stayed put. This action causes the glass to twist in the runners and get caught. The motor senses this obstruction to movement and then sends the glass back down again.
Here is a pic to illustrate how the wire slides out.
Now onto the fix. The choice for me was to either replace the clip or fix it. As I was limited for time I chose to fix the offending part. (just to add, there was no part number on the clips so I would assume that they aren't available separately anyway /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif )
All I did was purchase some fast drying Araldite epoxy and blob it on the problem area. After a while it was solid and the wire wasn't going anywhere. I didn't get a chance to take a pic, but it ended up being alot stronger than the original setup.
After bolting everything back together the window now works fine.
Hope this helps people which have had the same problem.
I pulled apart a friends door at work to try and get to the bottom of it. This isn't a definative guide, its just a few pics to illustrate what goes wrong (didn't have time to take more photos as I was on my lunch break!)
Anyways, here is a pic of the door subframe removed from the door and the glass removed from the subframe and lifter mech.
The two light blue squares are what the window bolts to and these are attached to the lifter mech wires.
Here is a closeup of one of the clips.
Lifting one of the clips up you can see how the wire attaches. This is what a good clip looks like.
Now here is the underside of a faulty clip. As you can see part of the plastic has broken off.
In this state the wire can slip out of the clip when the user attempts to raise the window. In this case the front edge was pulled upwards whilst the rear edge stayed put. This action causes the glass to twist in the runners and get caught. The motor senses this obstruction to movement and then sends the glass back down again.
Here is a pic to illustrate how the wire slides out.
Now onto the fix. The choice for me was to either replace the clip or fix it. As I was limited for time I chose to fix the offending part. (just to add, there was no part number on the clips so I would assume that they aren't available separately anyway /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif )
All I did was purchase some fast drying Araldite epoxy and blob it on the problem area. After a while it was solid and the wire wasn't going anywhere. I didn't get a chance to take a pic, but it ended up being alot stronger than the original setup.
After bolting everything back together the window now works fine.
Hope this helps people which have had the same problem.