Quattro BMW

**Dave_Bayern** · February 12th, 2009

....Not!

The closest English translation is "Quattro is for wimps".

(A Warmduscher is someone who will only take warm showers)

You all know I like a gentle dig

The car will around Reading/Berkshire until April then in Nurburg until Autumn so give me a beep if you see me!

**ScottSummerhayes** · February 12th, 2009

what's will the silly cables holding the boot closed?

**ianysm** · February 12th, 2009

I once thought the same and was a RWD follower...Now i wonder why i didn't get 4WD ages ago! I miss the drifting out of junctions but you can't fault the grip for progress making in these conditions.

**MintyS3** · February 12th, 2009

Would be amusing if you crashed. I would quickly run over and put a "should of gone to audi" sticker on your car.

Well.....only if you werent terribly injurded ofcoarse lol

**Dave_Bayern** · February 12th, 2009

Originally Posted by ScottSummerhayes

what's will the silly cables holding the boot closed?

Boot Springs?

They hold GRP/Carbon Fibre boots in place.

**Dave_Bayern** · February 12th, 2009

Originally Posted by ianysm

I once thought the same and was a RWD follower...Now i wonder why i didn't get 4WD ages ago! I miss the drifting out of junctions but you can't fault the grip for progress making in these conditions.

Dont imagine it'll be an issue in Northern Germany summertime mind.

You'll notice it says 'quattro' and not 4WD.....

**ScottSummerhayes** · February 12th, 2009

Boot Springs?

They hold GRP/Carbon Fibre boots in place.

oh right! I thought it was some chav thing...

**A4Quattro** · February 12th, 2009

Those rubber things are pretty common on rally cars

**ianysm** · February 12th, 2009

Originally Posted by Dave_Bayern

Dont imagine it'll be an issue in Northern Germany summertime mind.

You'll notice it says 'quattro' and not 4WD.....

True over there with decent surfaced roads, but in the UK, any form of 4WD is far better than M Diff for traction! Wait, yours' doesn't even have that does it?

**A4Quattro** · February 12th, 2009

Anyone?!

all having a little dig i see

**Dave_Bayern** · February 12th, 2009

Originally Posted by ianysm

True over there with decent surfaced roads, but in the UK, any form of 4WD is far better than M Diff for traction! Wait, yours' doesn't even have that does it?

I'm not going to get into all that, thats not what the threads about. But you are quite misguided evidentally.

**Dave_Bayern** · February 12th, 2009

Originally Posted by A4Quattro

Anyone?!

all having a little dig i see

As am I, so its to be expected and the point, its fun to have a little dig now and then.

**ianysm** · February 12th, 2009

He started it, Sir!

**fingermouse** · February 12th, 2009

is that spoiler for pushing it????

looks like a sleeper..................................

**1animal1** · February 12th, 2009

comon Dave write in English..... i understand the extra meaning with it being in German but at least have the balls to say what you think out loud

cars looking well though, ironic that i was calling it a boat on the engine thread and your parked outside a marina

be good to see how the LSD performs in the ultra wet, have you gone up against a tug yet?

I so cant wait till i can afford a REAL 4x4, cant take all this slating anymore

**666markyboy** · February 12th, 2009

Originally Posted by fingermouse

is that spoiler for pushing it????

it's for doing the ironing on.....

**HTC** · February 12th, 2009

Car is looking purposeful. One of these days I'll visit the ring.

You have sponsership, or just going for the German AA look for kicks due to the yellow paintwork?

**voorhees** · February 12th, 2009

Dave,give you a honk if I see you but theres so many Beemers on the road how do I know its you

**jacko4130** · February 12th, 2009

Car looks good, shame about the spoiler!!

**Ibzzzzz** · February 12th, 2009

Mr. Bayern you are a legend!

**Dave_Bayern** · February 12th, 2009

Originally Posted by HTC

Car is looking purposeful. One of these days I'll visit the ring.

You have sponsership, or just going for the German AA look for kicks due to the yellow paintwork?

It started out as a mickey take as I HATE the yellow. (Or did, I have got used to it now).

But ADAC got wind and upgraded my membership for free, I think I might get it free as long as I keep the stickers.

The spoiler is standard BMW Kumho chamionship height, looks horrid but as with most of the car, its there for a reason, and they provide a lot of downforce so useful.

**1animal1** · February 12th, 2009

Dave am i correct in saying that you bought the car because you wanted a thoroughbread racer? sounds that way from the way you are talking fella

**Prawn** · February 13th, 2009

That's the general idea behind buying a race Car Tim.

Dave, the Khumo spoiller looks nasty. your old carbon gt2 spoiller was much nicer!

**Prawn** · February 13th, 2009

That's the general idea behind buying a race Car Tim.

Dave, the Khumo spoiller looks nasty. your old carbon gt2 spoiller was much nicer!

**Dave_Bayern** · February 13th, 2009

Originally Posted by Prawn

That's the general idea behind buying a race Car Tim.

Dave, the Khumo spoiller looks nasty. your old carbon gt2 spoiller was much nicer!

It does, I agree. Unfortunately this one was bonded onto the boot lid so it isnt ever coming off.

I wanted to keep the carbon one but it would have meant changing the entire bootlid and having it resprayed, so I swapped the Carbon spoiler for front and rear strut braces.

Its a pain seeing behind you too with it being in direct line of sight.

However, its your bog standard Kumho spoiler and does provide extra downforce over the GT height one.

Functionality over Form with the Piss Yellow mobile...

**1animal1** · February 13th, 2009

Originally Posted by Prawn

That's the general idea behind buying a race Car Tim.

Dave, the Khumo spoiller looks nasty. your old carbon gt2 spoiller was much nicer!

Nope understand that mate, but it isnt exactly race car spec is it? sure it has carbon bits etc but id guess the true German AA car would be entirely different in terms of pace and livability

If all Dave has done is bought an M3 and stuck some bits on it and a few stickers....... then its really a mock up and NOT a true racer.... post up your 1/4mile times this summer Dave, its not the be all and end all but still good to see

**Dave_Bayern** · February 13th, 2009

Tim.

There isn't such as thing as a 'real' German ADAC E36 M3.

I made it up, the ADAC stickers are a joke because the car is so yellow.

How is the car not 'race spec'? It totally depends on what race series you enter as to the required spec.

It is eligible to enter the Kumho BMW championship for example, but If I was going to do that, I'd probably stick AP 4 pots on it, a swirl pot, extra fuel pump and strip some more of the loom away. As well as externally mount fire and electric cut offs.

However, the car is designed to be used on the Nurburgring, so it has to remain road legal.

As a Nurburgring focused car, its in the middle of a true road car and a true race car.

Things that set it aside from being 'An M3 with bits stuck on it' would be:

Strengthened rear arms, modified to provide up to 3.5 of neg camber:

ARP Rod bolts, and Dual oil pick up

Polybushed rear with breather hole in rear diff

Gearbox sound deadening removed, knuckle replaced and short shift

Spare wheel and Battery well removed and smoothed

Decat, 6 point strut brace

//M floating discs, braided lines and ducts from bumper to rear of disc

Bilstein PSS9 (Nurburgring) Coilovers

Safety Devices cage, 6 point Willans belts, Sparco Corsa seats

Oz Superleggera wheels

Carbon Fibre airbox, Strut brace front and rear

Theres a lot more that has been done since as its a continually evolving project.

However, I am willing to admit its not a 'true racer' as you put it, after all, I kept the glovebox. True race cars cant spare the extra 1Kg for glovebox.....

I wont have any quarter mile times? What 'race cars' or 'track cars' for that matter do 1/4 miles? What do represent? Nothing really.

You can have a passenger lap in it on the Nurburgring though.....

**1animal1** · February 13th, 2009

hey Dave hat off to ya fella, havent admittedly seen the car other than the pic above and i know nutting regarding the bmw cup as you put it

From pics you have posted you seem to have gone all out on this one.... looks well!!!... good luck with it...not that bothered about a lift thanks, a ride in a 360bhp mid engined mini removed by b****x and so have never ventured into another aspiring race car since

Tim

**HTC** · February 13th, 2009

Awesome build. Does it sound like this inside?.

Stripped out road/race cars are cool.

**bl_1969** · February 13th, 2009

HTC..... That clip was fantastic!

I know there is no passenger seat but see if I was in that when he was doing that driving..... there would be one hell of a smell in that car!

Think anyone can post a pic of what that beast looks like on the outside?

Sorry to hijack!

**HTC** · February 13th, 2009

No idea what the car looks like aside from searching for M3 GTR on google images. Dave might know.

It's one of my fav nurburgring vids. I have another in a skyline I like, but thats for another thread.

**bl_1969** · February 13th, 2009

Yeah, just done a search... few different kits but all stunning looking.

Amazing vid, just watched it again and sent it out to some folks.

Quality.

Think the lean mean yellow machine is up to the task?

I like it by the way.

**S3BLX** · February 13th, 2009

HTC that is one awesome video! He's proper flying!!!!!!! wow.

**Dave_Bayern** · February 13th, 2009

Thats Hans Stuck.

He is properly awesome.

It looks like this on the outside:

Much MUCH better version of that video here, with Hans Stuck commentating too

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...n+1tT7ojZp0G6R

**Prawn** · February 13th, 2009

Dude, that car's on fire!

hahahaha

Christ that guy is quick....

Have you done any timming around the ring yet dave? Am I right in thinking the car should be capable of an 8 minute lap?

**jojo** · February 13th, 2009

I've got to admit Dave, I quite like the M3 you have there.

**recomdos** · February 13th, 2009

wowzers

Thanks for the link Dave - very exciting. that guy has some skills.

As for your car, not to my tastes exactly with the yellow and hooge spoiler, but it looks a mean muthaf***a! I'm sure it will provide lots of fun out there - just be steady dood, so we get to hear the stories!

Rob

**ianysm** · February 13th, 2009

Wow impressive spec.

What sort of lap time can you achieve in it?

**Dave_Bayern** · February 13th, 2009

No timings done on the 'ring yet guys.

It wont be out there until April/May.

Silverstone in a couple weeks though.

It should imagine it'd be capable of a sub 8min lap, just not with me driving it!!

jojo liking a BMW, omg, is there something wrong, you ok? ;-)

Hans Stuck is an absolute legend.

**A4Quattro** · February 13th, 2009

OMG this thread has done a U turn

**voorhees** · February 13th, 2009

Originally Posted by A4Quattro

OMG this thread has done a U turn

ermmm NO.

BTW....OMG is gay.

**MintyS3** · February 13th, 2009

That vis is great. Getting me excited about going back to the ring allready. Awesome race track.

**NHN** · February 13th, 2009

Damn HTC that guy can seriously drive huh, talk about build a house while being passenger, I'd shit brick my pants, lol

**A4Quattro** · February 14th, 2009

Originally Posted by voorhees

ermmm NO.

BTW....OMG is gay.

**jojo** · February 14th, 2009

Originally Posted by Dave_Bayern

N
jojo liking a BMW, omg, is there something wrong, you ok? ;-)

I've never been Anti BMW have I Dave? I use to own one before my S3 actually.

**A4Quattro** · February 14th, 2009

Mate get them pics on the BM site, and that video is excellent

**abdus** · February 14th, 2009

Originally Posted by HTC

Awesome build. Does it sound like this inside?.

Stripped out road/race cars are cool.

or that one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSJ-HzNWJGM

?

**Dave_Bayern** · February 14th, 2009

It sounds like neither unfortunately as it hasn't got a sequential gearbox.

What it does sound like is this: (Jampublic's mobile phone video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJx9k1go8jM

**S3fan** · February 14th, 2009

A Dave Bayern thread...magic

**HTC** · February 15th, 2009

Might the whine be more a case of straight cut gears rather than sequential?

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