bluetooth module upgrade and sds problems

Hi There,

I have a few problems with an upgrade.

I recently fitted an 09 rns-e. I already had factory fit BT, and retro fbmfsw.

The bt would pair with the rns-e, but would not display tel numbers/phonebook etc.

After a bit of fishing around on here, it seemed apparent that my bt module was to old, (d version) So i bought a new s version to upgrade to.
As i was going to be ripping the seat out etc to access the module, I decided it would be a good time to do the sds mod aswell.

However, now i have problems.

I cannot get the sds to work (no beep from steering wheel)
And the phone book is still not being displayed.

I can make and receive calls, But there is a slight buzz on the line . (it isnt as clear as it was with the old unit)

Could anyone point me in the right direction for finding the problem?

My coding is as follows

instrument 0004443
nav 0205715
tel 0011420
wheel 04022

Sw 660 ~(for sds )

following error codes


Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 8E0 035 192 T HW: 8E0 035 192 T
Component and/or Version: RNS-E HIGH EU H74 0690
Software Coding: 0205715
Work Shop Code: WSC 00441 210 88110
1 Fault Found:

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 85
Mileage: 134908 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.01.14
Time: 12:09:19

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 10110011
Bin. Bits: 00

Sunday,24,January,2010,12:19:17:65047
VCDS Version: Release 908.1

Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 8E0 035 192 T HW: 8E0 035 192 T
Component and/or Version: RNS-E HIGH EU H74 0690
Software Coding: 0205715
Work Shop Code: WSC 00441 210 88110
1 Fault Found:

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 85
Mileage: 134908 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.01.14
Time: 12:15:05

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 10110011
Bin. Bits: 00

Sunday,24,January,2010,12:20:01:65047
VCDS Version: Release 908.1

Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 8P0 953 549 C HW: 8P0 953 549 C
Component and/or Version: Lenksäulenmodul H21 0050
Software Coding: 0004022
Work Shop Code: WSC 06314 000 00000
Additional Info: XXXXXXXXXXX Lenkradmodul H06 0030
Additional Info: Geraet 00000
1 Fault Found:

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication

Any help greatly appreciated

well according to wilki, this is the error code cause.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/index.php/01317

Any ideas anyone?

s8craig said:

Two things spring to mind...

First of all the steering wheel does not need to be coded for voice control.

Secondly the BT module should be recoded to 0011402 for full SDS operation from the RNS-E.

I see you have an A4 unit recoded to A3 which may be why the you have the strange error messages. Have you rest the unit since it was coded for A3?

Click to expand...

The unit was recoded before I got it,which I didn't realise until I received it. so I got it reduced to a good price. I presume you mean reset? Is that through the actual unit or vcds?

I will try the blue tooth code tomorrow, does my steering wheel lookokt then, as no coding is needed for voice control.

I am also finding a strange interference like noise on certain occasions. When the phone/ car are in the initial connecting bit, the bong is now quiet,almost distant, And a background static hiss starts just before bong and stops just after. it sounds wrong. When i make a call however, there is no issue with noise.

Thanks for your help so far

Thanks for the replies.

NHN, my car doesn't have DIS,sadly But it is on the to do list

I'm glad to hear that you have the same module as me. I was worried that it may be the route cause of a problem, but as yours is ok, mine should be to.

I will have to try the coding tomorrow now as the other half has the car at work.

I will recode the bt module to as mentioned. Is it best to do a hard reset of any sort after coding to test new changes? If so how?

I did discover the bluetooth sds before I upgraded the bt unit, It was very clear with a crisp( and loud ) bong upon connection. I suppose I am comparing the bt sds to the full sds, making it sound incorrect.

In regards to what phone is being used. I have tried a samsung m8800 and also a nokia 5800 express. Both connect the same way with no phone book etc.

Thanks for your time on helping me with this matter




Probably of no significance, but I also have the cradle base on the dash ( eughh ), don't think it will make a difference, but worth a mention.

That sounds likethe cluster I have. Poverty spec I believe is the technical term

So having this cluster could stop the phonebook etc working or just give a error code all the time?

Well the sds is working except she can't hear me.

So I must have the + and - mixed up. Strange that normal hands free works ok though.hmmm

Any way, one down , one to go

I really would like to get the phonebook on the rns-e. It is why I just bought a new BT module, as I believed it was why I couldn't do this.

It would seem that the coding is now ok on the BT module, and my rns-e seems ok. What else is left that I could try to get the phonebook displayed?

Cheers again for the successful help so far!

When I receive a call, the number will display on the screen,but not the persons name.

Not sure about missed calls as , tbh I haven't used the car much lately as the missus has it most of the time.

So If it is the cluster, is it possible to retro a DIS cluster into a non dis car ? Or is it possible to modify the wiring /unit in anyway?