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    Tracker Systems

    Hi,

    Tracker systems (Know the basics concept but ...):

    What are they all about in detail? i.e Retrieve,Monitor, Horizon ...

    Approx initial cost plus annual ongoing subscription would be appreciated.

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    I'd personally have a look at the RAC track Star system, http://www.ractrackstar.co.uk/ as not many police cars have a tracker "tracer" unit in them. The tack star is a GPS one and has alot more features. It really depends on how much you want to spend and what you want to fit it on.

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    I read somewhere about a tracking system that has a "tag" that you have to have with you otherwise the engine will stop when the car next stops - usefull in the event of a hijacking.

    Anyone got more details?
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    I worked at Tracker Network a few years ago.

    They had a backlog of over 6 months worth of units to register onto their systems. This was an ongoing issue and they had to bring in temporary data entry people to try and clear it up.

    I can't say how they are coping at the moment, but they still use temps...

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    Trackers with "Tags"

    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave
    I read somewhere about a tracking system that has a "tag" that you have to have with you otherwise the engine will stop when the car next stops - usefull in the event of a hijacking.

    Anyone got more details?
    http://www.tracker.co.uk/home.php?SVR/Works/echo

    http://www.tracker.co.uk/home.php?SVR/Works/response

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    Hi Sean,

    Notice you are pretty much in the same boat ... expecting receipt of an RS4 soon. Have you looked into the merits of RAC Tracker System etc, as an alternative to the above?

    PM me

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    Arrow tracking systems - there is only one choice . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    Hi Sean,

    Notice you are pretty much in the same boat ... expecting receipt of an RS4 soon.
    Aye, should be getting mine in the next 2 weeks - ish - proving the boat doesn't sink!

    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    Have you looked into the merits of RAC Tracker System etc, as an alternative to the above?
    Yes, I have looked at the RAC systems , but there are a whole number of reasons why not to use them. Firstly, they are not approved by Audi, so by fitting one, it could affect the warranty. Secondly, they simply rely on soley GPS technology (which can be defeated by - well I'll not spell it out!), whereas the Tracker Horizon uses two separate tracking technologies, and the Echo/Response uses three active and one passive technology. Next, RAC uses Group4 for both monitoring and interception/recovery, whereas Tracker use all 52 UK Police forces - Group4 have no powers of arrest, whereas the BiB do! Continuing on, the actual "tracing" process is painfully labourious with RAC, they have to actually get a "crime number" from the Police, BEFORE they can initate any trace and recovery, whereas the BiB just get on with it automatically on the Tracker systems. On the RAC, their own control centre has to tell the Police (if/when they actually get involved with the trace) where the actual location is, whereas the Tracker control centre sends info directly to the locator unit fitted in the Police car, and all Police helicopters . . . .

    There are a few more reasons why there is only one choice, but I think you should have the full picture by now!
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    On a lighter note, you can opt for the cheaper option and hide a charger and phone (picked for long battery life and strong signal) within your vehicle.

    Register the phone on one of the many cheap mobile triangulation sites for 2 or 3 a month.

    You can now view the location of your vehicle online to within 20 metres in most cases (resolution not as good as GPS).

    Given that most proffesional car thieves apparently no longer try to hide the car/block signal, but leave the car parked elsewhere in plain sight, waiting to see if it is tracked, it is not such a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutonic_Tamer
    Aye, should be getting mine in the next 2 weeks - ish - proving the boat doesn't sink!



    Yes, I have looked at the RAC systems , but there are a whole number of reasons why not to use them. Firstly, they are not approved by Audi, so by fitting one, it could affect the warranty. Secondly, they simply rely on soley GPS technology (which can be defeated by - well I'll not spell it out!), whereas the Tracker Horizon uses two separate tracking technologies, and the Echo/Response uses three active and one passive technology. Next, RAC uses Group4 for both monitoring and interception/recovery, whereas Tracker use all 52 UK Police forces - Group4 have no powers of arrest, whereas the BiB do! Continuing on, the actual "tracing" process is painfully labourious with RAC, they have to actually get a "crime number" from the Police, BEFORE they can initate any trace and recovery, whereas the BiB just get on with it automatically on the Tracker systems. On the RAC, their own control centre has to tell the Police (if/when they actually get involved with the trace) where the actual location is, whereas the Tracker control centre sends info directly to the locator unit fitted in the Police car, and all Police helicopters . . . .

    There are a few more reasons why there is only one choice, but I think you should have the full picture by now!
    Sound advice, Thanks

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    Just need to sell the 'old bugger' now and then I will declare the 'fat lady has sang (or is it sung?)' and then I will plugging it all on the site ... BIG STYLE!!!

    Anyway for you the 'joy' is gettin really close and I really am jealous of your ability to get out onto some of the best 'drivers' roads in the UK to 'run' the baby in.
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    ps. That sounds like a good thread ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    Sound advice, Thanks
    OK, glad to help.

    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    Also, got confirmation of my order today - End April
    Ohh, that's quite quick. Mine was 3 months from order confirmed to built.

    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    so I'm a slightly 'demob happy' today.


    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    Anyway for you the 'joy' is gettin really close and I really am jealous of your ability to get out onto some of the best 'drivers' roads in the UK to 'run' the baby in.
    Aye, should have the keys in my grubby paws by the end of this month, DVLA cherished transfers permitting!

    Where might these best drivers roads be, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    ps. That sounds like a good thread ...
    What?

    Have I missed sommat?
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    [QUOTE=Teutonic_Tamer]OK, glad to help.



    Ohh, that's quite quick. Mine was 3 months from order confirmed to built.






    Must be trying to get rid ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    ps. That sounds like a good thread ...
    See 'So come on Boys and Girls - What's your favorite drive?'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutonic_Tamer
    OK, glad to help.



    Ohh, that's quite quick. Mine was 3 months from order confirmed to built.







    Aye, should have the keys in my grubby paws by the end of this month, DVLA cherished transfers permitting!

    Where might these best drivers roads be, then?
    Well I assumed you where in Scotland ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    See 'So come on Boys and Girls - What's your favorite drive?'
    Ah, done, and posted!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wigginer
    Well I assumed you where in Scotland ...
    Noooo, I'm about 8 hours away! But I do like Scotland though!
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