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    I'm not saying a word.................


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    What is that pigpen ?

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    Rear wheel arches to bumper

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    Take it back to dealer asap ,also could you zoom out a bit?

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    Take it straight to the dealer get then to check it out ,looks like somethings missing and damaged ..?

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    Paint is flaking off quite badly but I get accused on here of moaning too much! It's coming off clean suggesting it isn't bonded to the plastic particularly well.

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    Best get it ,straight in to dealer under warrenty ..
    i dont mind at all you asking any questions ,thats what the forum is for Also you bought new ,i take it right back and get anything fixed asap....

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    I noticed as I washed mine before it went away it was doing the same thing in the exact same place, more came off whilst jet washing!

    Itll be going in to be sorted once I get it back
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    Would you trust 'Audi' workshops or insist someone of your own choice?

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    Guys mine has been in for this, one paint shop (Audi approved and associated with 3 dealers) says it's covered and another and the people at Audi Uk say it isn't...

    Yes it's the rear wheels arch side on the bumper, the paint flakes off far too easy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PigPen View Post
    Would you trust 'Audi' workshops or insist someone of your own choice?
    You would have to have it done via an Audi Approved centre Piggles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PigPen View Post
    Paint is flaking off quite badly but I get accused on here of moaning too much! It's coming off clean suggesting it isn't bonded to the plastic particularly well.

    Mine's exactly the same Gareth, it's just gravel rash; at least it wont rust!


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    Do they do the whole bumper or just the 'ends'? Why did Audi UK say it isn't covered the car isn't even two months old with 1800 miles on the clock and probably only it's third wash since I bought it?

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    Glad I'm not alone then but pretty poor for a £40k car - sorry sounds like I'm moaning again but that is hard earned cash and I didn't just buy an engine I bought the whole car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PigPen View Post
    Glad I'm not alone then but pretty poor for a £40k car - sorry sounds like I'm moaning again but that is hard earned cash and I didn't just buy an engine I bought the whole car.

    Halfords and a brush… It's virtually impossible to get any paint to withstand road debris being hurled at it at such speed and in such close proximity to a rear tyre (metal or plastic bodied cars): even a rubberised paint will show signs of wear - it's just the same as grit/sand/bead blasting, really. So Halfords and a brush or leave it alone… Go for a drive and forget it! If you repair it, then it'll be back again by the autumn.

    And no, you're not!

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    Dont think its normal John, Its come off in flakes not stone chip sized pieces.

    It'll be going in for them to assess as soon as it comes back, Ive only got 3500 on the clock so wouldnt expect it to be that bad even with my driving style...... Lets be honest 90% of its job is a daily commute in slow traffic during the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macdaddy View Post
    Dont think its normal John, Its come off in flakes not stone chip sized pieces.

    It'll be going in for them to assess as soon as it comes back, Ive only got 3500 on the clock so wouldnt expect it to be that bad even with my driving style...... Lets be honest 90% of its job is a daily commute in slow traffic during the week.
    I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but years of painting cars; steel, GRP, and current thermoplastics, the adhesion to a plastic surface, even using aggressive etch primers, is not 100%, and on 'plastic' panels especially, it will result in this sort of 'damage'.

    And here's one I did earlier, much earlier…


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    Hi Pigpen......
    Mine's the same, looks worse in lighter colours...... White, Suzuka etc.

    tbh I'm not really bothered, it's clearly a plastic part and the paint's failing at that point. Wouldn't worry about it to much
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    I can't be driving mine as quick as you boys cos mine hasn't flaked off yet,
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    Mine's black. If there's a problem, I can't see it.

    However, the windscreen has just spontaneously cracked on the bottom left!

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    Cracked windscreen may well be thre tiniest of stones that has hit it. It is one of the highest stress points in the pane where you have described as I have had similar with no visible mark to say it was a stone.
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    Mud flaps?

    The fact that looks black seems like the primer layer has not adhered to the bumper.
    I would have said if they were chips and it had been painted properly there would have been parts where only the top coat had come off only.
    Been to look on my missano red (multi layer paint effect with white under red) a6 and the plastic bumper on there after 6 years and 78,000 miles does not look like that and surly audi would still use similar techniques to paint their bumpers.
    Give them hell......
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    can someone post ETKA schematic for that area?

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    Ironically I was installing OPS on an S3 2012 today & also showed the client that his front area identical to the pics, flaked of in front of us, so something is seriously wrong with VAG's painting processes for the last year or so's cars, as I've not seen it to this extent ever, didn't even look like primered or lacquered properly, if at all.

    OT: Here was the end result

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_G View Post
    Cracked windscreen may well be thre tiniest of stones that has hit it. It is one of the highest stress points in the pane where you have described as I have had similar with no visible mark to say it was a stone.
    I'll have another close look during daylight to see if I can ID a chip. Otherwise, a warranty claim maybe? Why not, Audi can replace it the same time as they do the brake squeal fix, which is any day now...

    Anywho, back to paint. I'll have a closer look at mine to see if there is paint peeling in the specified locations. Not too bothered if it is just over black plastic and not metal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyboy_marcus View Post
    I'll have another close look during daylight to see if I can ID a chip. Otherwise, a warranty claim maybe? Why not, Audi can replace it the same time as they do the brake squeal fix, which is any day now...

    Anywho, back to paint. I'll have a closer look at mine to see if there is paint peeling in the specified locations. Not too bothered if it is just over black plastic and not metal.
    My mum once had a brand new civic and the windscreen went in the first week of ownership.
    Second windscreen was fitted at dealers and broke on fitting.
    Turned out there was a small weld blob on the frame and the pressure was cracking the screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavin0478 View Post
    Mud flaps?
    Agreed, had them fitted since day 1, despite being ridiculed for them on another Audi forum, they work well and protect the paintwork from just this sort of damage.

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by S3DBW View Post
    Agreed, had them fitted since day 1, despite being ridiculed for them on another Audi forum, they work well and protect the paintwork from just this sort of damage.

    regards
    Are they standard Audi flaps? Do you have a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PigPen View Post
    Are they standard Audi flaps? Do you have a link?
    Unfortunately Audi do not make them for the RS3, so they are custom built

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyboy_marcus View Post
    Anywho, back to paint. I'll have a closer look at mine to see if there is paint peeling in the specified locations. Not too bothered if it is just over black plastic and not metal.
    Inspected mine more closely today and there is no sign of etch primer on the return lip of the rear bumper, only paint, which is why the paint is coming off in flakes (paint does stick to paint).

    Within the stone chips (see post #13) on the outer/visible lip of the wheel arch, however, the 'grey-coloured' etch-primer can clearly be seen.

    If I care to rectify mine, it'll be with some 600 grade wet and dry (to give the paint something to bond to) and brush paint it in - otherwise I'll leave it alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45bvtc View Post
    Inspected mine more closely today and there is no sign of etch primer on the return lip of the rear bumper, only paint, which is why the paint is coming off in flakes (paint does stick to paint).

    Within the stone chips (see post #13) on the outer/visible lip of the wheel arch, however, the 'grey-coloured' etch-primer can clearly be seen.

    If I care to rectify mine, it'll be with some 600 grade wet and dry (to give the paint something to bond to) and brush paint it in - otherwise I'll leave it alone.
    I am more worried where the primer starts as one of mine already seems to have disappeared underneath.............seems a bit poor to prime (hopefully) part of the part but stop short on the ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PigPen View Post
    I am more worried where the primer starts as one of mine already seems to have disappeared underneath.............seems a bit poor to prime (hopefully) part of the part but stop short on the ends.
    Could it be an Audi/VW primer cost reduction exercise hoping the customer will not notice? It can't be operator error as others are reporting the same, so most likely a production/procedural oversight/error. I can well understand how it’s happened in the production process. Still not right mind, but as with the brake issue, what chance?
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    Had a phone call.........................

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    Go on!

    I've just been down and pointed out the issue to the dealer, They agreed it should not be flaking like that so are going to sort it along with the stone chips they've added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PigPen View Post
    Had a phone call.........................
    And me reminding me of a dental appointment tomorrow at 10.30
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    So what was the outcome here??
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    Just a clean and polish and a bill for £28. Sorry should have reported earlier

 

 

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