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    *That* thread

    Moved as described. If you missed the reasons why, and are wondering, please PM.

    I'll drop 16Klappe & s3dave a line regarding the closing points, but essentially the issue is an extension of points mentioned coupled with a difference between the way big business and government/CPS tend to look at things.

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    Please don't feel the need to take time out to explain the things I asked, I am sure you have got enough on your plate without answering my ramblings.

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    Re: *That* thread

    Iv missed something... Jardo been a douche again ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Bum him, I say!

    erm....
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    *That* thread

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    erm....
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    I haven't done anything wrong, otherwise Rob would have banned me! I asked a question about how the forum would stand in a lawsuit against some of it's content and wether there would be any legal validity in a claim that forum endorsed "stickies" could well make a members car illegal. It all followed a post by Rob about the legal implacations of ASN being used as a tool to slander the actions or a large high street company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16Klappe View Post
    I haven't done anything wrong, otherwise Rob would have banned me! I asked a question about how the forum would stand in a lawsuit against some of it's content and wether there would be any legal validity in a claim that forum endorsed "stickies" could well make a members car illegal. It all followed a post by Rob about the legal implacations of ASN being used as a tool to slander the actions or a large high street company.

    Calm down kiddos!
    I read somewhere that the forum is not responsible for the comments or views of its members.
    So surly that will remove any legal action towards the forum?
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    I think this entire rants and raves section should be deleted, look at the first page...So many topice similar to the one Rob deleted last night.

    This whole sub forum is a breeding ground for issues. IMO.
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    If internet sites can be held accountable for what their members write then twitter and facebook are f*cked!!

    I think its safe to say that lil' ol' ASN is safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdp1962 View Post
    Well, here are our scheme rules. Rules 3 and 11 seem to cover it.
    Yup that's my thinking.

    So we can say what ever we want about companies and express our views.
    It should then fall on us not ASN.
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    i went the sandwich shop today, was a little late, anyway, asked the women for a chicken salad on granary bread. she said she didnt have any

    racist *****

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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    i went the sandwich shop today, was a little late, anyway, asked the women for a chicken salad on granary bread. she said she didnt have any

    racist *****
    Kinda your own fault really... should have asked for it on white *ducks*

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    That shop never has any bread left, you would think it was a good idea to have plenty of bread in a sandwich shop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateOfPlay View Post
    That shop never has any bread left, you would think it was a good idea to have plenty of bread in a sandwich shop!
    to add, i genuinely do have a sandwich shop in my town, thats makes cracking sandwiches, that i've been to a number of times and they've turned people away because they've no bread. so it does happen.


    now hows that for racism. NO bread

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    Quote Originally Posted by superkarl View Post
    to add, i genuinely do have a sandwich shop in my town, thats makes cracking sandwiches, that i've been to a number of times and they've turned people away because they've no bread. so it does happen.


    now hows that for racism. NO bread
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Is the Tuna good there?
    lol never had it.

    i usually get whats called a chicken schnitzel. which is breaded chicken strips, hot, seasoned with black pepper and lemon, on granary bread roll, with salad and mayo.
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    It is a national problem

    I was in North Londin "innit" yesterday, and I went into a sandwich shop and they had no bread. I said "is this a filling shop? Coz it ain't a sandwich shop innit."

    I did offer to pop into the corner shop and buy a loaf of bread, but they didn't seem to see to want to help.
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    Re: *That* thread

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    Racist.

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    the OP of *that* thread is Doc Brown!

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    Apologies first for being slow to get back to this thread (I've been tinkering in darker corners of the site [and talking nonsense on Twitter, a bit]); and also for bumping the damn thing!

    Anyway, just IRT to the on-topic toward the top...

    The sections in our Rules/T&Cs would, we hope, make our position on liability clear. We'd also like to think that it's obvious to anyone with even the meanest intellect that a noticeboard can't be held responsible for what someone pins on it, and similarly the person posting to a forum is accountable for the content they post.

    However, we live in a world of ambulance chasing solicitors chasing the insurance companies of banks [as an aside, my tip is to wait for the motherload - I'm sure we'll have ads about claims for 'misinterpretation of the exclusions in the data protection act which lead to endless pestering by pop-up solicitors' on our screens soon]; and that complicates things somewhat.

    Looking at the two scenarios discussed here..

    Firstly, the issue of modifications etc. which will invalidate your insurance if not declared, or perhaps even your MOT regardles, discussed here which members may perform to their cars. The crucial point here is that as far as using a vehicle on the road goes, there are very clear lines of responsibility for the owner/insurer/driver of a vehicle. Upon traffic police finding stopping any vehicle in contravention of road traffic laws, the driver is primarily held responsible, because it's made abundantly clear that the driver is responsible in ensuring the vehicle they take on the road is safe and legal with which to do so. If the driver is not the owner/policy holder, they may also face repercussions under certain circumstances.

    Insurers views are also pretty clear: If your policy doesn't allow modifications, or you haven't declared them, you're likely to void it; meaning that potentially (and in the vast majority of cases) they won't pay out on any claim - regardless of whether or not the claim is a result of whatever change voided the policy or not.

    In short, "I saw it on a website" does not wash with the police/insurers.

    Now, getting back to big business and ambulance chasers... Civil cases by definition don't have the same clear boundaries (this is arguably what makes them civil rather than crown cases). Again, we'd hope, that our putting ASN's position on liability for post content in writing, coupled with the common sense normally found in anything brighter than a potato would mean that we'd not be dragged over the coals for something numptyish posted by a numpty; however, that doesn't in all cases mean that big business and artful counsel wouldn't have us in the dock to test how well our T&Cs/Rules stand up to barrage by money and jargon. In that case, whether it does or not is completely academic, for two reasons: fighting the first case would most likely bankrupt us, and again whether it did or not, the site would likely be pulled because we certainly couldn't risk fighting a second time.

    So, we have to be aware of both the differentiation between criminal (or road traffic) law and civil suit, and balance that with what the site is actually here to do.

    All the best,

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    i think that fact this thread turned into a discussion about sandwiches means we could distract any ambulance chasing solicitor with ease!

 

 

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