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    People who park in Disabled bays who are not disabled. And people who stare!

    My wife is disabled, not her fault, something happened, and here we are. She has a disabled badge, and can therefore park in disabled bays in car parks. We need this so we can open the door wide enough for her to get out, and so she doesn't have to walk too far as it is painful.

    We parked in a multi story which had lots of disabled spaces on the first floor still available. An old boy and his wife were loading there car with loads of shopping, and he called over to me and said "you do realise these are disabled bays, for disabled people only?". I asked him what his problem was, and he apologised, just thought he would mention it as many people do not realise they are disabled bays. FFS man, if you can't see a big yellow wheelchair on the tarmac in front of you, you should be banned from driving!

    Anyway, all around us there were cars parked in disable bays with notes in the window, rather than a blue badge.

    "Mother and baby, all spaces gone so am parking here as I cannot get my child out of the car"

    "Just be 30 mins"

    And those with no note at all, just decided it would be ok to park there, so that then means my wife has to walk further in pain.

    Tossers!

    Anyway, I cannot tell you how many arguments I have had with people because I drive an A4 convertible ( my wife drives a much more sensible car) and they see me parking in a disabled space and either shout at me or make comments as they pass. They want to see my wife fall out of the car and drag herself across the car park to the store to be satisfied that we can park there.

    I never park in disabled bays without my wife, nor did I before my wife became disabled, but it amazes me how many people do. And worse is the people abusing us for parking there, like my wife needs to hear that sh1t from people, she is struggling as it is.

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    I know exactly where you are coming from. Having been in a wheelchair for 20 years people(oldies who look fit) have always commented as we pull up in a disabled bay. They get short change from me too. Mother and toddlers p*ss off you can walk I did when I was little

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    Yep, always always! The man that browned his pants was a pensioner and his wife, both fit enough to walk unaided with several bags of clothes shopping each. They always stare at my wife.

    What is worse is the ones that park up in a disabled bay, then sit in the car while the wife goes in and does the shopping. Now, I assume they are not sending in their poor disabled wife to do the shopping whilst they sit there. In any case, if they are staying in the car, why do they need a disabled space? They don't need access, and they don't have to walk anywhere. One old codger sat in his car in a disabled bay and watched whilst a poor woman whose child was totally disabled try and get the machinery to work on her specially adapted car in a tight space, whilst he sat in his car with his badge, not going anywhere! Was it too much for him to move into a normal space and allow this woman the room she desperately needed?

    I have never had as many nutters criticise me about parking until my wife became disabled.
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    I'll park in a disabled bay on the following conditions

    1. I am going to be less than 5 mins (usually at my local Tesco's picking up a sandwich or getting cash out).
    2. There are lots of disabled spaces unoccupied.
    3. I park in a free disabled space well away from the door.

    I don't see a problem providing the above are true, particularly as my Tesco's seems to have an unusually high number of disabled spaces, but i'm sure i'll get moaned at on here for admitting it. It would be great idea if there was a 15mins or less area for anyone to use, specifically for those who are just popping in and out quickly
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    Quote Originally Posted by consilio View Post
    I'll park in a disabled bay on the following conditions

    1. I am going to be less than 5 mins (usually at my local Tesco's picking up a sandwich or getting cash out).
    2. There are lots of disabled spaces unoccupied.
    3. I park in a free disabled space well away from the door.

    I don't see a problem providing the above are true, particularly as my Tesco's seems to have an unusually high number of disabled spaces, but i'm sure i'll get moaned at on here for admitting it. It would be great idea if there was a 15mins or less area for anyone to use, specifically for those who are just popping in and out quickly
    I am assuming that you are joking?
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    Only time I ever parked in a disabled bay was when picking up a mate's mum who is disabled. Her son got out of the car, clearly able-bodied, and went into the shops she was waiting in to let her know we were there. Some overly-righteous woman, presumably having seen him, came over and started shouting at me about how we have no respect and "just popping in for 5 mins" isn't an excuse. When my mate and his clearly disabled mum returned, she didn't even apologise. Pretty sure it made her even more mad that I had a genuine reason for parking there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateOfPlay View Post
    I am assuming that you are joking?
    I have a feeling he isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdp1962 View Post
    I have a feeling he isn't.
    You may be right, there are so many people out there who do park in disabled bays when they are able, that it follows that there would be a few of them on this forum.

    I wonder why these supermarkets spend all that extra money marking out disabled bays? Is it so that people can use them as short term parking spaces? I mean, how frikkin lazy you got to be to park where you shouldn't for the sake of a few yards? Why are people obsessed with parking as close as possible to the front door? Is that why people are so fat? Eventually, through lack of excercise, more people will be unable to walk and they too will need disabled badges, and then the supermarkets will have to make even more spaces available!

    Most of us are fortunate to be able bodied, and yet a minority are not, and as a society we make allowances to make life as easy as possible for people who are less able than us. That's what makes us what we are. That is called compassion.
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    Agree with the OP, disabled bays are there for a reason, even if they are empty so what, you have a whole car park to use and so what if its a few extra steps.

    Being a parent now, I do use the P&C parking bays when possible and it does frustrate me when someone clearly without a child is using it.

    My car is my pride and joy and so is the little one, so having that little extra space to get him in and out and manouvere without having to have him bang his head on the roof of the car or trying to get him in whilst juggling the door so it doesnt even rest on the car next to me!!

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    As a parent of a disabled child it winds me up a treat, mostly the tossers who see the decent car and assume that i shouldn,t have a blue badge, you wouldn,t beleave the times ive had arguments with security gaurds and the like when i pull in to a disabled bay they dont even give me chance to get the badge out the glove box and thats like every other week and how i haven,t knocked someone on thier ass i dont know. But also im very respective of the bays because if my little girl isnt in the car then i wont use it, id just feel guilty.

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    And dont get me started on people who stare, dont get me wrong i dont mind other kids staring as maybe they,re inquisitiveand maybe never seen anything like my little girl before but adults with a full on stare who dont even look away when they catch your eye make my piss boil and i usually give them the "who the F**k are you looking at" and that normaly sorts it ha ha. Im a nice guy but anything to do with my little girl and ive got a hell of a short fuse!

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    Yeah mate, staring is not good.
    But in SOME people's defence though... sometimes it can be a daydreaming kind of stare. I've done it before where all of a sudden I've woken from a daze to find that I was staring at someone who probably shouldn't be stared at.

    There is one time which sticks in my mind, and I felt so bad about it:

    I saw this guy who had a disfigurement and I looked at him, just as I'd look at anybody else. But noticing his disfigurement my brain immediately went into auto-pilot and I started thinking about how hard it must be for him, which lead on to how people deal with this sort of thing, which lead on to all sorts of other things.
    Eventually my brain flicked back into reality and I realised that during my thinking period my eyes were still pointed towards him, and he was now looking at me.
    I looked away and kicked myself.

    But to be fair, its not like I was looking at him and scanning his face. I was prompted into thought and it just so happened that unfortunately my eyes were looking in his direction at the time and just stayed there.
    I reckon he could've turned purple and I wouldn't have noticed.

    But yeah, some people are just ignorant and look on without a care for how the other person might feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aythree View Post
    Yeah mate, staring is not good.
    But in SOME people's defence though... sometimes it can be a daydreaming kind of stare. I've done it before where all of a sudden I've woken from a daze to find that I was staring at someone who probably shouldn't be stared at.
    Something very similar happened to me a few years back. I was standing at the entrance to Costa Coffee, just mulling over whether to go in or go somewhere else, and when I came back to reality, I realised I had been staring for about 20 seconds at a woman breast-feeding her baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdp1962 View Post
    Something very similar happened to me a few years back. I was standing at the entrance to Costa Coffee, just mulling over whether to go in or go somewhere else, and when I came back to reality, I realised I had been staring for about 20 seconds at a woman breast-feeding her baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aythree View Post
    You can laugh, but I just wanted to crawl away and die at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdp1962 View Post
    You can laugh, but I just wanted to crawl away and die at the time.
    You should've tried to explain it to her. That would've been even funnier.

    "No, honestly, I was thinking about milk. I mean... whether I should have milk in my coffee. Not the milk coming out of your........ ahhh forget it. I'm sorry."


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    Quote Originally Posted by aythree View Post
    You should've tried to explain it to her. That would've been even funnier.

    "No, honestly, I was thinking about milk. I mean... whether I should have milk in my coffee. Not the milk coming out of your........ ahhh forget it. I'm sorry."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFLUFF View Post
    As a parent of a disabled child it winds me up a treat, mostly the tossers who see the decent car and assume that i shouldn,t have a blue badge, you wouldn,t beleave the times ive had arguments with security gaurds and the like when i pull in to a disabled bay they dont even give me chance to get the badge out the glove box and thats like every other week and how i haven,t knocked someone on thier ass i dont know. But also im very respective of the bays because if my little girl isnt in the car then i wont use it, id just feel guilty.
    Next time a security muppet casts doubt on whether your child is disabled or not, don't punch them, just ask to see their medical qualifications.
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    it winds me up a treat, mostly the tossers who see the decent car and assume that i shouldn,t have a blue badge,


    Yep, and when they comment, I cannot ignore. I find myself getting quite aggressive towards them, I never used to care, but now I flip my lid and they brown their pants.

    Not a good way to be, but they soooo wind me up I can't tell you. I wish I could just smile at them, but I go for them instead. My wife has to shout at me to calm down, because one day I will do something silly, which I do not want to do.

    Anyone who parks in a disabled bay who isn't should have their car towed. No argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateOfPlay View Post
    [I]One day I will do something silly, which I do not want to do.
    I feel for you, but please don't. After all, can you imagine if we all came to visit you in the nick? All those Audis in the prison carpark!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdp1962 View Post
    I feel for you, but please don't. After all, can you imagine if we all came to visit you in the nick? All those Audis in the prison carpark!
    LOL.

    How long would it be before someone tried to boost them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateOfPlay View Post
    LOL.

    How long would it be before someone tried to boost them.
    Or for some over-officious prison guard to stop people parking in the disabled bays....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdp1962 View Post
    Or for some over-officious prison guard to stop people parking in the disabled bays....
    Lol, you get time in your own special space with two very friendly gorillas!



    Most prison car parks are full of BMW's. Not that I would know. But one assumes they get the drugs in there somehow.
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    Mother and toddler bays have caused disabled bays to be more abused. Since their introduction some parents assume they are oneand the same - then refuse to move when you confront them.
    I have had my fair share of "tools" trying to stop me parking or staring when I am getting out the car, I was even toold by one tw*t I should lose some weight - he got short shift.
    I was mortified in tesco last week when a little girlwas looking at me, dont mind little ones as it is new to them, and the mother turned to her and said "thats what hapens if you are naughty" how i didnt rtip her head off I dont know.

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    I'm sure that if people didn't abuse the mother and toddler / disabled bays then there would be a lot less carpark 'dings' on doors from parents/disabled people needing the extra room!

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    I always quite deliberately park as far away from the door as i can and would never park in a disabled or mother/child bay.

    I can see your point, but i can also kinda see theirs as well.

    Nearly everyone in this thread has posted that they get extremely annoyed with people abusing the system and parking there when they have no right to. It follows that a proportion of those people will take it a step further and actually confront the people who are parking there without cause. I guess the point is that while some people immediately look disabled, others do not, and if you happen to fit into the category of the type of person that typically abuses the system (ie nice car, young, etc) then some people will jump the gun and assume your just one of the many other cocks that are parking there.

    On the one hand, you shouldnt have the justify your actions when you have every right to park there, but at the same time is it not a good thing that people are prepared to stand up to the cocks that park there when they shouldnt? Those people may well have stopped many others wrongly parking there (or at least given them something to think about) by actually speaking out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by will89 View Post
    I'm sure that if people didn't abuse the mother and toddler / disabled bays then there would be a lot less carpark 'dings' on doors from parents/disabled people needing the extra room!
    Not necessarily mate, i have seen plenty of people that couldn't care less about their car or the ones next to them and they will gladly let their door rest on yours without a care in the world, and they were not disabled or carrying kids in the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    I always quite deliberately park as far away from the door as i can and would never park in a disabled or mother/child bay.

    I can see your point, but i can also kinda see theirs as well.

    Nearly everyone in this thread has posted that they get extremely annoyed with people abusing the system and parking there when they have no right to. It follows that a proportion of those people will take it a step further and actually confront the people who are parking there without cause. I guess the point is that while some people immediately look disabled, others do not, and if you happen to fit into the category of the type of person that typically abuses the system (ie nice car, young, etc) then some people will jump the gun and assume your just one of the many other cocks that are parking there.

    On the one hand, you shouldnt have the justify your actions when you have every right to park there, but at the same time is it not a good thing that people are prepared to stand up to the cocks that park there when they shouldnt? Those people may well have stopped many others wrongly parking there (or at least given them something to think about) by actually speaking out.
    I agree that you shouldn't have to justify your right to park there. If you have a badge then you have the right to park there; you wouldn't have a badge if you didn't. They should do more to stop the people parking there who shouldn't - clamping for example.

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    Not necessarily mate, i have seen plenty of people that couldn't care less about their car or the ones next to them and they will gladly let their door rest on yours without a care in the world, and they were not disabled or carrying kids in the car.
    I agree there will still be those that have to park so close to others when there are plenty more spaces, and don't give a **** about their cars or ours.

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    Having a badge doesnt absolutely mean you have the right to park there though.

    If i borrow my grandads Nissan, i could chuck his blue badge on the dash and bin it in a disabled bay... Doesnt make it any more correct for me to park there does it?

    Similarly another poster has a badge due to his disabled child, which is fine, however if he were in the car alone, then he shouldnt be parking in those bays (and i'm sure he wouldnt) but he could, if he was a knob, park there anyway and display the badge.

    As a result you can kinda see why, should a young fit guy draw into a disabled bay, leap out the car and run into the store to collect his disabled partner/child, people might simply think "oh look, another cock abusing the system" and speak out.

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    To be honest, I'm well and truly fed up of people sticking their noses into other people's business and speaking out against things that they only THINK are true... i.e. questioning a guy who runs into a supermarket from his car that is parked in a disabled spot.

    People really need to mind their own business and widen their minds to the possibility that a healthy looking person could be picking up a disabled person.

    The amount of times I've been given dirty looks when returning to my car which is parked in a parents and child bay, just because I have left my missus and daughter in the store and returned to my car before them.
    Each time I pray for someone to dare to say something, so halfway through their opening sentence they can get met with the words "F*CK OFF!"

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    Aythree, I agree mate, people are more worried about me parking than they are with third world poverty.

    I would get less people looking at me if I decided to do a ritual slaying of a live goat in the middle of Sainsbury's car park, than when I park in a disabled bay with my disabled wife. Just coz we are young, and have a convertible.

    I don't understand why people stick their noses in when they aren't even disabled or anything. They just stare at you and tut and look in disgust.

    And that is why the old bloke who was weight lifting while skipping to his car with his disabled badge, who made a point of sprinting over to me to let me know that I was parked in a disabled bay got the shock of his old life and browned his pants. I was not in the mood.

    I am going to start pulling up in the bay, opening the door and then just fall out and drag myself along the floor into the shop. No-one will be bothered then, they will just be happy that I am truly disabled and deserve that space 3 yards closer to the front door than them.
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    Fukker in an A5 cab with audi symbol painted on the side parked in disabled bay, no badge.
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    Isnt that a bit hypocratic?

    In your previous post your telling people to keep their nose out of YOUR business, then in your last post your slating someone for parking in a disabled bay, with no knowledge of him, his circumstances or why he has parked there, just because hes driving a flash car with a chavvy sticker on it?

    This is EXACTLY what your moaning about in your previous posts, when people have a go at you, yet then proceed to do the same thing yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    Isnt that a bit hypocratic?

    In your previous post your telling people to keep their nose out of YOUR business, then in your last post your slating someone for parking in a disabled bay, with no knowledge of him, his circumstances or why he has parked there, just because hes driving a flash car with a chavvy sticker on it?

    This is EXACTLY what your moaning about in your previous posts, when people have a go at you, yet then proceed to do the same thing yourself.
    Not at all hypocratic. I think you've missed the point.
    His original point was people getting sh*tty with him even though he has a disabled badge on display.
    The guy he mentions above didn't have a disabled badge.....

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    Fukker in an A5 cab with audi symbol painted on the side parked in disabled bay, no badge.

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    not at all,

    He says people stare, and make comments and suchlike, often without even being close enough to have seen if there was a badge there at all, and typically based on the flashy car/owners appearance etc.

    Just because theres no badge on display does NOT mean the person has no right to park there. It might be in the glove box, and hes just forgotten to lift it out. He might be collecting his disabled mother whos 94 years old and wheelchair bound. He might have borrowed his sons car and left the badge in the other motor.

    Ofcourse he might well just be a cock, but my point is that in the same way that he believes other people dont know his situation, and hence shouldnt be commenting on his parking, he shouldnt be commenting on others, unless he happens to know everything about that guys life.

    You cant have it both ways without being a hypocrite.

    You either believe that others have no business commenting or staring and treat everyone else the same back, or you make all the comments you like and shut your mouth when you get the same from someone else doing the same as you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    Just because theres no badge on display does NOT mean the person has no right to park there.
    If you do not have a badge on display I think it does mean you have no right to park there. Otherwise how is it ever going to be policed?
    People who are not entitled to park in disabled bays will just be rolling up and parking without fear of fines/removal/etc.
    Its harsh but, no badge... no park. Otherwise it defeats the purpose of issuing a badge in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    It might be in the glove box, and hes just forgotten to lift it out. He might be collecting his disabled mother whos 94 years old and wheelchair bound. He might have borrowed his sons car and left the badge in the other motor.
    See above.
    They need to remember to display the badge otherwise its a free for all on disabled bays.

    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    Ofcourse he might well just be a cock, but my point is that in the same way that he believes other people dont know his situation, and hence shouldnt be commenting on his parking, he shouldnt be commenting on others, unless he happens to know everything about that guys life.
    Again, stateofplay had a badge on display and still people came across and gave him crap. Had they looked properly they would've seen he had one and not said anything. This is inexcusable as there was nothing more he could've done to prove he was allowed to park there.

    As for the A5..... Stateofplay saw it didn't have a badge on display and is now passing judgement. If he is wrong and the guy had just forgotten to display his badge then his passing of judgement is excusable and understandable.
    If I get approached because I am not displaying the required badge/info/document then I don't get annoyed, because I understand why I am being approached.

    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    You cant have it both ways without being a hypocrite.
    I think you can, because they are different points.

    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    You either believe that others have no business commenting or staring and treat everyone else the same back, or you make all the comments you like and shut your mouth when you get the same from someone else doing the same as you are.
    Nope.
    I believe that if you have good reason to comment (i.e. someone is parked in a disabled bay without a badge) then say something.
    But if you haven't even bothered to have a proper look at the person's car to see if they have a badge displayed then keep your mouth shut.

    Simple as that in my opinion.
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    Couldnt have put it better myself Ads. Very eloquent.

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