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    Sorry for the lack of activity, I really have been run off my feet the last few months. Anyway I've still found the time here and there to keep the project moving along.

    Since the last progress post I've stripped the motor down again and got busy with the die grinder to gain a bit more clearance in the block, I just wasn't comfortable with it. I'm more than confident now its right, I sleep easy!

    So the motors built back up again now all sealed up, I've also dowel pinned my timing pulley to the end of the crank. That should keep the bugger in place should the key shear on the back of the pulley, which seems to happen when you push these motors.





    I had to fabricate my own pulley holding tool so I could properly torque the crank bolt on, worked a treat!



    So the motor is as good as built and ready, just needs a chassis to go in now! The A4 has been retired from it's daily duties and its being stripped down.







    So I've pulled the engine, gearbox, drive shafts, hub carriers, brakes, ECU loom, subframe, control arms, ARB etc etc. I'm hoping to have it re-assembled by the end of the week depending on the weather, won't be ready to turn the key but I feel its a major milestone in the project to get the lump in there, can't wait to see it start coming together, but then I have to strip everything out of the back end!

    Now can anyone tell me the effect of removing my AC, I never use it and don't really want it but will my heater still work?

    Also when I removed the ECU loom and ECU I found 4 plugs under the ECU, can anyone tell me what each one is for so I can work out the pin outs, I don't intend using any of the original loom as it can't be separated out easily, It will look far neater making a new one from scratch I think.



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    Good stuff mate, excellent progress, hope the weather holds out for your install.

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    Well another busy day and thankfully no rain! Was actually a good day for it so got through a few horrible jobs. Removed all the rust and horrible crap from the subframe and tarted it up a bit, I also removed the very soft rubber mounts and replaced them with some billet alloy bushes from 034 Motorsport. They should help to sharpen up the handling together with the fully polybushed control arms, sorry I forgot to take pic's before I started you'll just have to believe me it looks a million times better.





    In between applying god knows how many coats of paint to the subframe amongst other things I got stuck into the engine bay. I removed all the stuff I won't be using in the final set up but still can't remove the bloody exhaust! Tough job when you work alone I guess. With everything out the way I set to removing 10 years of horrible thick oily sludge, gave me headache with all the paint and degreaser fumes, never the less I got through it all and I'm happy with how its turned out.



    Hopefully tomorrow will be just as favourable as today and I can fit the subframe and lower control arms. Next job is to split the engine and box and get the gearbox cleaned up and ready to fit later in the week. I have this coming week off work so I'm hoping to get through alot of stuff I need to do. I wanna drive this thing badly, but don't want to cut corners at the last minute.

    Anyone have any idea what those 4 plugs are for? Also does anyone know the ARP flywheel bolt torque specs? Issam can't you chime in here and help me out.

    More updates tomorrow weather permitting!

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    Another productive day, things are moving along quite nicely. I managed to fit the subframe and torque it in along with the lower control arms, I also fitted the ARB & 034 Motorsport engine mounts.







    That lot fitted I removed the gearbox and started cleaning it down, manage to slice my thumb open quite well on the bell housing which I was chuffed with! Still manage to clean off quite a bit of crap.

    Before cleaning


    And after


    So on the list of jobs for tomorrow:-

    • Paint the gearbox and brackets etc
    • Fit the flywheel to the built motor
    • Swap the cams over
    • Sort the drive shafts out, S4 outer CV & A4 Inner CV. I was going to change the gearbox flanges and just run the S4 driveshafts but I can imagine swapping them is a lot of hard work. That said anyone know how to remove the outer CV's from the driveshafts?
    • Tidy up the S4 hub carriers as their rusty as hell.
    • Remove the bloody exhaust system, hopefully third time is lucky!
    • If I've any energy left after that lot I will mate the built motor to the gearbox ready for install on Tuesday
    Tomorrow is forecast for rain so lets see what happens, Might just have to break out the marquee if it persists!
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    OK today's progress update:-

    Gearbox is painted and ready for fitting tomorrow, can't be arsed fitting them up tonight!



    Another big day for the project, the built motor is finally off the engine stand and ready for the gearbox. Doesn't sound like much I know but it has been on that stand for just over a year now and feels good to see it move a step closer to the engine bay, got the flywheel & clutch fitted decided to loctite my flywheel bolts in.











    Made a start at removing the cams from the old motor, I plan to run these for a while in the built motor, at least till its broken in. Can't justify spending all that cash on cams when I don't even know if it runs! Anyway I was stopped in my tracks when I couldn't find my cam chain tensioner tool. Going to pop down to Audi tomorrow and hope they have one I can have / borrow! Hopefully get the gearbox and motor together tomorrow and in the car!

    Was a bit lazy today didn't get through as much as I would like but there's always tomorrow, looks like more rain though!
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    Update.

    Today I got busy putting everything together and hoped to get it all fitted into the car, the rain stopped me getting it fitted as well as a few other issues.

    Stock Gearbox mounts Vs 034 Density line Gearbox mounts. Notice the lack of voids in the mount, there also made from a harder rubber.





    Gearbox bolted up, bit of a nightmare!



    Then the problem's started, I fitted up the 034 Motorsport downpipe, the sprung gearbox bracket didn't line up, was about an inch short. So I decided to modify the bracket by welding in another inch, luckily I had the right material lying around, problem solved.





    I always knew this was going to be a problem but wanted to fit it to the car before I decide on the best way to fix it. Well here's the problem:-

    Bit of gap that, I can get it to align a bit better but there's still a 10-15mm gap!



    Now do I:-

    A) Bolt up the flanges and let the flex joint take one in the ass?
    B) Use another flange I have somewhere as a spacer plate, this means two gaskets instead of one.
    C) Cut the flange off and weld in a 10-15mm section of pipe which will look gash

    What to do ,what to do.........

    Right then can someone also please put my mind at ease, the engine has become harder to turnover after the clutch and flywheel have been installed, is this right? In my mind the friction plate is squashed between the flywheel & pressure plate making it harder but can someone please chime in on this one.
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    I would definatly use a spacer and 2 gaskets if it were me.

    I would imagine the engine is harder due to you now having to turn the mass of a flywheel and clutsh assy, thats all, as long as it turns reasonably free it's all good.

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    Thanks Mark, it always helps to hear it from some one else.

    I've been having a think about this downpipe, I think I may just use the other flange to space it out and two gaskets to seal, not very elegant but it will have to do for now.

    Right I'm off to go and get this motor in the car!
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    Well after a morning of running around to find a second wastegate gasket and dropping off my spare 38mm flange to be skimmed at the local machine shop, I got home and threw everything together. After a bit of jiggery pokery it slotted right in. I have to say it feels really good to see the engine in place in the car after all this time, looks damn good too I have to say.



    Tomorrow I plan to sort the driveshafts out and get them fitted, I need a pair of wheel bearings for the S4 front uprights to get it back on its wheels. I called PW europarts this morning and the bloke wasn't to helpful, He wouldn't do anything unless I had the S4's reg number (which I don't) or gave him the Audi part number (haven't a clue). Can someone help me out, how many different wheel bearings can there be for a pre-facelift 98 S4 with steel uprights?

    I'm also going to finish removing the cams from the old motor, can this be done without that tool for the cam chain tensioner as I still can't find it?
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    You got the part numbers of the uprights, i can check for you. I am sure there is one 82mm one, but will check for 100%. As i had an odd 75mm one on my old car ???

    The cams can be removed easily enough without the tensioner thingy, refitting won't be so easy without it.

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    Give jason at AllGermanParts a call.

    Spot on bloke and has sorted me out a few times.

    There are only two bearings 75mm and 82mm, you need the larger ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzan A4 View Post
    You got the part numbers of the uprights, i can check for you. I am sure there is one 82mm one, but will check for 100%. As i had an odd 75mm one on my old car ???

    The cams can be removed easily enough without the tensioner thingy, refitting won't be so easy without it.
    I can post the upright numbers tomorrow as I've just locked everything up, are those dimensions the OD's? I'm pretty sure there 75mm to be honest, I get the feeling the A4 shafts would probably fit without any buggering about with CV's, problem is I removed the shafts still connected to the uprights, will be easier to swap the CV's now! I'm sure you've mentioned before there was a chance of that A4 shafts would fit, oh well.

    I guess I will just have to get another tool then, I hate struggling to do a job without the right tool.

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    You will need to use the S4 shafts with 2wd gearbox output flanges on the gearbox iirc.


    "Thoughts" if your car was originally a TQS it will have been equiped with the larger bearing which means your TQS shafts will be fine to use with the S4 uprights, direct fit !!!

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    Oh poo, I was hoping to pull the outer S4 CV's off and mate them to the A4 shafts keeping the original inner CV's i believe this can be done?. I have the correct gearbox flanges for the S4 shafts but is it a nightmare to swap them, can't see them coming out easily or going back in.

    I think your right though, the original shafts would probably fit directly to the S4 uprights I have.

    My preferred option at the moment is using the S4 outer CV's onto the A4 shaft, im assuming this will work i.e. the spline on the shafts being the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    Give jason at AllGermanParts a call.

    Spot on bloke and has sorted me out a few times.

    There are only two bearings 75mm and 82mm, you need the larger ones.

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    Cheers fella, I didn't see your post earlier, must have missed it somehow! I will give them a call tomorrow for sure. I haven't forgotten I still owe you a ride in this thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzan A4 View Post
    "Thoughts" if your car was originally a TQS it will have been equiped with the larger bearing which means your TQS shafts will be fine to use with the S4 uprights, direct fit !!!
    Well after a morning of covering myself in CV grease and trying all possible combinations of S4 CV's, A4 CV's and shafts nothing worked. The problem I had was that the A4 outer CV's were still bolted to the uprights as I thought I didn't need any of it. Plus I cut the upper control arms off as I couldnt be bothered wrestling the pinch bolts out all day, so therefore I cant bolt them to the car to undo the hub bolt! So the only combination I couldn't try was original TQS complete drive shafts. After 10 minutes of head scratching I came up with this solution, not the best idea but it worked and it was a damn sight easier than undoing the bolt



    Worked a treat, needless to say Mark was right all along. The original TQS shafts are a direct fit. The S4 wheel bearings I have are identical to the A4 TQS at 75mm, must have the same odd S4 uprights that you had Mark, Turns out your right again though. For anyone who might want to know the part numbers of the S4 uprights I have are 4B3 407 257/8 A. These uprights will allow a direct fit to an A4 TQS, then S4 or RS4 brakes are a direct fit at least on my car. (I couldn't find this info anywhere)

    At least that makes ordering the wheel bearings & CV boots easy, I can use my own reg number now!
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    Update.

    Earls order finally arrived this morning, the lead time on these fittings was extended to say the least! Never the less there here. I ordered the Ano-tuff fittings because I don't really dig the blue / red ones.



    So my intention was to complete all the fuel plumbing in the bay today, I got the first hose finished and fitted but couldn't decide where to mount the Aeromotive FPR. In my mind I was going to fit it directly to the fuel rail but it doesn't fit under the bonnet unless I remove the sound deadening and had it at a strange angle, I then thought the bulkhead would be a good idea, but in reality doesn't work all that great due to lack of space. So having a poke around the bay it would work nicely where the stock airbox fits but this is some distance from the fuel rail I wonder weather this will truly compromise its effectiveness. So at the moment im undecided what to do, all suggestions are welcome.

    I got the turbo oil return line fitted, the turbo lines and fittings were all supplied by 034 Motorsport, Can't say im overly impressed with there supplied solution, which is usually the case! May be my expectation is to great. Let's see what you guys think.





    Not sure how well that will drain! I've heard back pressure on the oil return of a Garrett GT series turbo isn't desirable. But lets see what happens when it runs, Do I worry about these details too much?

    Anyway I cracked on with more stuff that needs sorting, I pulled the cams and fitted them into the car. Another step closer to being turn the key ready.



    Ordered the tensioner tool from Audi today amongst other things, the wheel bearings and CV boot kits are also en-route from PW europarts, bloody forgot to order my timing belt kit though didn't I

    Its been a hard week and I'm knackered now, tomorrow I will fit the in-tank Bosch 044 fuel pump and call it a day I think, might push the boat out and get my Innovate LC1 wideband & XD-16 gauge fitted.
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    Well as anticipated a lazy day today, I did manage to get the fuel pumps swapped over though amongst a few other little bits here and there. Couldn't believe the difference in size of the fuel pumps when I got the stock unit out. I'm sure this Bosch motorsport pump is going to make it's presence known when I turn the key, should do the business though.





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    beast lol what baset (i think thats what there called) did you use for the bigger fuel pump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam80quattro View Post
    beast lol what baset (i think thats what there called) did you use for the bigger fuel pump?
    I think the basket used to house the pump is from a Coupe Quattro but I can't be 100% sure and you will need to modify it extensively to fit the Bosch 044 into it, 034 Motorsport supplied mine and I have to say it dropped right in without any messing about, everything needed was supplied in a kit, bit pricey though but I didn't want to chance putting it together myself for the few quid saving, could cost me a hell of lot more if I got it wrong!
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    Today I wasn't planning to do anything but just couldn't resist with it being a such a nice day. Removed all the lower door trims and sill trims, clay bar'd, polished & waxed in preparation of pre-fitting the used S4 skirts & lowers before getting them painted, I've opted to go the full OEM route and bought all the brackets and associated gubbins from the stealership. Scrubbed up quite well I think.





    Back to work tomorrow but hopefully the parts I've ordered will arrive so I can finish putting the driveshafts back together when I get home. Got some more good news this afternoon, Cpt Jack @ Satans Child has got my 034 ECU finally, still needs to go back state side to be upgraded etc but as soon as I get it back with the loom I think a test fire will be in order, I will sleep soundly knowing it runs.

    Just busy putting my stainless steel shopping list together, anyone know where I can get a nice OEM style custom back box made?
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    Hi, I'm pretty new to the forum and just stumbled upon this thread. Congrats on how you've done so far... looks like a pretty awesome build

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    Hello, welcome and thanks for the kind words. I'm quite pleased with how things are turning out, I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel now, I've been gathering parts and building the motor for over a year now so I'm glad to see it slowly come together. I've been working on the car tonight again so I will post an update soon.
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    very nice,
    wish I had the time to complete my build as quick as yours!

    I skimmed through it all just now so sorry if this is a repeated question...
    what ECU/File/injectors are you using?

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    Cheers Buddy

    Still plenty to do before im done here! But progress has been good the last week, Unfortunately work gets in the way of my progress! I'm off again in two weeks and I hope to get through the worst of it. Do you have a link to your build thread?

    Anyway I've opted for the 034EFI Stage II C ECU with a file written for this motor, Injectors are low impedance 840cc Siemens Deka's. Choose this setup due to the inability to run the motor the way I want on the stock ECU, this way changes are easily made & tuning won't cost me and arm & leg. Plus the ECU has alot of other features you'll never get in a standard Audi. Anti-lag, flat shift, 2 step Launch control etc which I think I can put to good use.
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    2003 Season Predictions

    I suffered from "spec creep". only wanted a 300bhp upgrade before.
    went 2871 as I don't want more than 400 at the most. its a daily with 3 kid seats across the back most of the time!

    Know what you mean about work getting in teh way!! I am 2 years into parts collection and building bits up at a time.
    I went Tapp/Eurodyne 630cc as it is pretty much plug and play. If I had a B6 I would have gone for his Maestro upgrade as you can tweak all day and it has all the features you mentioned.

    I just need about a week of no interuptions to finish it! fat chance

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    That ever so familiar Spec creep! It's a ***** hey! Hence I'm In 2 Deep! In for a penny, in for a pound as it were. Just hope it's all worth it in the end. I see your using the 2871R that thing will be so responsive on the 2.0, probably a better choice than GT30R as its going to lag badly, but super aggression will only be a cog away, It will take me back to my 2 stroke motocross days lol.

    2 years, thats some commitment that fella, I know how hard it is to keep going. Many times I've nearly thrown in the towel myself after a year, Its looking good though & good to see another fellow B5'er going all out, keep it up dude and just ignore the world for that 1 week, you will be glad you did!

    I considered doing an ECU transplant with a later ECU but to be honest I just couldn't be bothered with it all, I felt that a standalone would likely be a more flexible offering although I know it won't have the same finess. I have someone lined up to tune this on his 4 wheel dyno, he has some good 1.8T experience, he tuned an old Scirocco with a 1.8T, ran a 10.6 1/4. 650BHP!
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    Update

    Cam chain tensioner, timing belt, alternator, throttle body & propshaft all fitted. The S4 uprights are away having new wheel bearings fitted. I only received 1 CV boot kit so I will wait till the other one turns up before getting them sorted & fitted. I re-routed the hard vac line that runs across the front of the bulk head from the fuel tank I think, it's now hidden behind the scuttle panel and pops out of an unused bulkhead plug and the AC hard line boot, I was suprised to find a strut brace tucked away underneath everything back there! Never noticed that before.



    Just working on the fuel lines now, I think I have a plan to sort out the FPR location. Also in the middle of fitting up the S4 skirts & lower door mouldings to get the brackets bolted to the chassis, Still need to mount the intercooler & front bumper before paint. Getting there slowly!
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    Today I got the fuel pressure regulator finally fitted, welded a little bracket together to save drilling the bulkhead and utilised a few of the vast array of studs. Then quickly made up the hoses to get it finished off, Just ordered some hose finishers to connect it to the original hard lines, another job done.















    You'll notice the ancillary bracket is now black, I actually had to remove the AEB one as it's different to the one on the AJL. They use completely different power steering pumps and these aren't interchangeable without the bracket. I could have used the AEB one but the original hoses wouldn't fit, plus the fact there might be a reason there different. So not taking any chances I decided to swap them over and keep the original steering pump & hoses. Glad I did because I badly nipped the O ring between the block & water pump and would have leaked everywhere, luckily I have a few spares knocking about so I swapped that out and assembled.

    Also finished pre-fitting the S4 side skirts, Im missing 2 brackets from my Audi order, there on the invoice but not in the box. Lets see if I end up paying twice for them! It's always the expensive ones too





    Next job is getting the intercooler & front bumper mounted, Should be fetching the S4 uprights at some point in the week so I can get it back on wheels for the time being. Hope this volcano calms down soon, won't be getting my ECU or loom in a hurry.
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    Nice work there. PM me a cost for the snub mount mate?

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    Great thread, great work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by finesse View Post
    Great thread, great work!
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    Quick update

    Front end is temporarily back on and I've tried to fit the S4 bumper. I have the correct side mounts but the screw holes don't line up so some careful drilling is required there, Im guessing this maybe a difference in facelift & pre-facelift? Also the bumper strut jobbies are not right, but it looks like you can adjust them so I will have a play and hopefully avoid forking out more cash! But If anyone has a pair of S4 bumper strut jobbies please let me know.



    Once the bumper is on I need to figure out how to mount this.........



    Pukka Garrett high efficiency core, cast end tanks fully TIG'd. Bar & plate design good for 500+ Hp. Should keep things nice and cool

    Also got the CV's back on the shafts with there new boots, made up another turbo coolant feed line to replace the one running in front of the motor, 034 Motorsport sell a part that fits into the little plastic coolant pipe on the back of the head so I will take my feed from there instead.

    I've been having a bit of think about all this spraying I will need doing on the bumpers, skirts, door mouldings etc not to mention the fact some chav keyed the car all the way down one side, all 4 panels and fairly deep. So putting it right will cost alot, plus the colour match just can't be the same, close but not the same. Which leaves me wondering what the most affordable soultion is, so I've been considering a full body wrap.......

    http://www.raccoon.co.uk/

    http://www.carbonskin.co.uk/index.html

    Haven't decided exactly what I would go for if I went this route & I would have to see a wrapped car first before letting them loose, but what do you guys think?
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    Update

    After spending Saturday at Oulton Park watching the Time Attack I felt motivated to crack on and get things moving. So I've managed to fit the S4 uprights, get all the suspension fitted & torqued down, S4 bumper is on for now, needs a bit more attention to fit right. Polished my wheels & calipers with Rimwax, fitted the front Brakes & wheels and its now on the ground again. I intend to start removing the rear subframe next.









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    Update

    I'm so close yet so far if you know what I mean. Just so difficult to keep going sometimes when you work alone! Never the less I have completely stripped the back end of the car now and fetched the new bolts from Audi that I had to cut off, some of those bolts had never been touched so after 10 years & 135K miles I'm sure you can imagine how they looked!



    The subframe, lower wishbones, tie rods and uprights were proper minging so I had to sort them out in the usual way, I also removed the handbrake cables as I have RS4 ones to use with the RS4 rear brake setup (bit of a stretch with A4 cables, RS4 are 3" longer). I also removed the bushes and fitted uprated items.

    Rear diff carrier bushes, these were properly soft



    After, 034 Motorsport bushes fitted



    OEM Front mount next to the Apikol mount



    Subframe mounts Before, these were all completely buggered, the aluminium had mostly turned to oxide, I could remove the inner part of the mount with a good swing on the lump hammer!



    These will be replaced with billet mounts from 034





    This lot is ready to fit again come the weekend if I can motivate myself, still need a pair of RS4 rear discs to complete all the work for the rear end. Next step is TIG welding my custom 3" exhaust, charge pipes and intercooler brackets all from stainless as I only have a DC TIG setup.
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    Your doing a fantastic job fella Great stuff! gunna be a beast!

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    Cheers Matey, Its slowly getting there now, hopefully won't be too long till I can turn the key. I just hope it survives the break in & dyno tune, time will tell.
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    Just had a read through of your work. Going to be awesome!

    I used to dream of big turboing my A4 a while back. Really looking forward to seeing what figures your build produces.

    I like the wheels also, nice and light and a bit different to most fitted to A4's.
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    I sure hope so dude, it will be a completely different beast to what I was used to that's for sure, can't bloody wait to get behind the wheel, I miss the A4 badly.

    I'm going to be a nervous wreck on dyno day, assuming its still in one piece when it gets there! I sure hope it makes 450+ crank when we finally turn the boost up.

    I'm still not sure about the wheels myself, they are a bit different to the normal A4 choice and they are made in the UK as well. Kind of wish I could of stuck with the OEM Ronal sport wheels but there was no way I could have got my brakes under them without spacers and I didn't want to go there with the torque this thing should put out. Still might get another set of wheels yet as I've been eyeing some up! Where this project ends, god only knows!

    I should make some decent progress this weekend, Ive not touched it all week as I was getting fed up but I'm all fired up again now, so time to crack the whip!
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    Thats a very (extremely infact) respectfull build with NO expense spared and everything done to an A1 standard. All those parts must have cost you close to buying a B5 RS4! I have the utmost respect for bods like yourself and the dude thats recentley dropped in a 5 pot UR engine! Now I have finished blowing the sun up your arse, when do you hope to have this little (well very big) project/gem completed?

    Ollie

    P.S....How on earth do you manage to stop the MRS whining at you for spending so much time on your car? I have yet to learn how to stem the flow of lady abuse I get whenever I pop the bonnet.....Please help, Ollie, Marlow.......LOL!
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    Thanks alot Ollie, it really means alot to me to hear that

    I hope to get it finished very soon, there really isnt much left to finish for now. Your right though it hasn't been cheap by any means, kind of lost track if I'm honest LOL, Its not quite RS4 money but If I'd bought one I wouldn't have left that alone either! I know when its properly finished it will be a true one off as I have a few things left up my sleeve yet, just have to see it work before I chuck any more money at it. I have managed to keep the costs alot lower than you might expect though, all the work has been done by me and I have scooped some serious bargains along the way.

    As far as keeping the other half happy, that ones easy, I just got rid of her! No joke! (not purely because of the car but it helped) I just take what ever comes my way if you know what I mean LOL
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    Mate, thats hillarious!! Your ex-mrs got in the way of the build so you binned her!! Now thats dedication!! I wish I had the time to start and complete something like that. Trouble is I have no garage (just a lowly driveway that 3 cars have to share!!!), and limited tools at my disposal. I am completely opposed to getting anything done by a grease monkey (garage) unless I have NO other option. Everything I do takes place at the weekend AFTER I have got the other half to stop moaning (usually bate her with Haagen Daaz and a chick flick.....), which leaves me clear to crack on! The idea of a B5 RS4 is still very appealing, but everytime I give it serious consideration I keep on thinking of all the reasons not to get one like.......Collosal insurance premium, running costs and the financial explosion two replacement K04's would be......I would be just like you though, if I did buy one, there is no way in hell I would be able to leave it alone! Every car I have ever had, even when the I told myself "this is just a run around/family car" , I have always tinkered in some way shape or form. I just can't help myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixv6quattro View Post
    Mate, thats hillarious!! Your ex-mrs got in the way of the build so you binned her!! Now thats dedication!!
    I've been through two now and they were both faulty!

    I too can't leave anything alone, even my PS3 got modified! But I've always repaired / modified my own cars/bikes, on the odd occasion I've let a garage do something its never to my satisfaction. So over the years I've built a respectable arsenal of tools so when I set too not much can stop me! I have a second car which is a proper knacker scratcher but it helps me out the poo when stuff goes wrong with the A4. I have always worked on the driveway but agree without a garage it would be very tough, this would mean car parts in the house! and that age old problem of being nagged & bollocked by the woman! LOL

    Before I started this project I seriously considered a B5 S4/RS4 as I would love one, but after doing alot of digging I decided against it as most owners are forever removing the engines to do the most simple of tasks, plus all the points you mentioned. Besides I'm sure my A4 will hold its own against the stock S4's & RS4's out there when its done, might even show them a clean pair of heels, who knows!
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    All I can say to that is I hope it does, as unconvential means are usually the best ones.....

    Good Luck on Dyno Day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixv6quattro View Post
    All I can say to that is I hope it does
    You know it will!

    Update

    Right then I have been busy again! The rear is as good as back together now. Big thanks to Chris for his help this afternoon couldn't have done it without ya.

    Pretty much everything fitted, just need to torque the last few things and jobs a good'an. I still need to change both rear outer CV boots which I will do tomorrow if I have the energy to get the hub bolts out!







    The next big task is TIG welding the exhaust, intercooler pipes & intercooler bracket. I will measure up tomorrow and order the mandrel bends, V bands & flexi's, I've got a fresh bottle of Argon and stacks of filler rods so I'm ready to go.

    Also I measured up some alternative rear discs against an RS4 rear caliper today in a bid to try and make them a bit more affordable, £500 for a pair of RS4 discs is just robbery! They are alot lighter than my alternative but £500! No. There 310mm Vs. the RS4's 312mm so im sure I can handle 1mm less on radius and there the same PCD, happy days.

    I can see the light now, won't be long.
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    Hows the build going this week mate? Dead keen to find out what the finished article will be like......RS4 speed???!!! - I BLOODY WELL HOPE SO!!

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    Its been a lazy week if I'm honest but strangely an expensive one! All my exhausts parts have arrived today though, so tomorrow I will get busy. Obviously I couldn't just do nothing all week so I have refitted my OEM ECU and loom. I also used some 3M DI NOC carbon fibre on my B pillar trims, I damaged the finish on the trim when I made a mould to make some carbon fibre ones, so I had to do something to cover the mess! I actually think they look really good.



    Thats about it really. Progress should pick up again now as I have something to be getting on with and a week off work. My loom & ECU should arrive very soon if 034 Motorsport keeps to there promise! Not much to do now. I'm going to try and get it running for GTI fest on the 26th of July, obviously the body work will still look like a patch work quilt but im not arsed at this point!
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    Your going to be busy mate! Whats up with the bodywork?

 

 
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