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    Non S-Line Register

    I see that this forum has an S3 register. Perhaps we should also start an "Non S-Line" register as they seem to very few are far between. I called in to my dealers on Saturday and every used new A3 they had for sale was an S-Line. I have telephoned a number of other dealer to try and get a test drive in a 2.0TDI s-tronic SE or Sport and they all say "we have an S-line". If you look on the Used car section on the Audi UK website and search for a new A3 just about everyone for sale is an S-Line. So it seems that "Non S-Line" must be quite rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cemerson View Post
    Me!
    What size wheels and tyres do you have on your Sport?
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    The standard ones that come with it - 17" 5 spoke design
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    Quote Originally Posted by h5djr View Post
    I see that this forum has an S3 register. Perhaps we should also start an "Non S-Line" register as they seem to very few are far between. I called in to my dealers on Saturday and every used new A3 they had for sale was an S-Line. I have telephoned a number of other dealer to try and get a test drive in a 2.0TDI s-tronic SE or Sport and they all say "we have an S-line". If you look on the Used car section on the Audi UK website and search for a new A3 just about everyone for sale is an S-Line. So it seems that "Non S-Line" must be quite rare.
    Strange you sould say that because my search turns up 'non s-lines' Used Audi Vehicles – Official Audi Used Vehicles That's not my post code btw...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cemerson View Post
    Me!
    Same here
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuke2u View Post
    Strange you sould say that because my search turns up 'non s-lines' Used Audi Vehicles – Official Audi Used Vehicles That's not my post code btw...
    Yes but those that are not S-Line are 8P models not 8V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h5djr View Post
    Yes but those that are not S-Line are 8P models not 8V.
    Change the search criteria then Used Audi Cars
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    I don't really care if there are one or two "Non-S Line" used cars for sale in the country. I don't buy used cars. My post was about the fact that there are far more S-Line models around than SE or Sport and as we have a register on the forum for the slightly rare S3 perhaps we should have one for the equally rare "Non-S line" 8V models as well. Purely out of interest to see how many of the 8V forum members have a "Non-S line"
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    Fine then, I was only trying to help you and I don't believe that non s-line A3's are that rare. Having said that s-line might be preferred for a reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuke2u View Post
    Having said that s-line might be preferred for a reason...
    Because too many people have boy racer aspirations? :P
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    I agree, sometimes when there isn't that many of a certain car, it may be that the car isn't that desirable. Whether that be the fact the S-lines are more popular or desirable, I'll leave that up for debate.

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    Is having your car badged S line like having your BMW badged M sport?

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    I personally am of the opinion that S line models provide a good overall package. Nicer sport seats, leather/part leather. Nice wheels. More sporty styling.., costs a bit more but hey why not if you like it! Most Audi buyers probably will!
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    I agree that a lot of people must like the S-Line package which is why there are so many of them about but personally I would prefer an SE or a Sport. At least I think I would. I've had a 2.0TDI Sportback s-tronic S-Line for the day some months ago but I have yet to drive either an SE or Sport with the same engine and gearbox combination. But that will be remedied on Thursday as I'm having a Sport for the day.
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    Having had a sport A1 i wanted something grown up non sports and comfort.
    Went SE TDI finished off with interior light package, auto dimming mirror, auto lights, auto wipers and aluminium highlights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetirider View Post
    Having had a sport A1 i wanted something grown up non sports and comfort.
    Went SE TDI finished off with interior light package, auto dimming mirror, auto lights, auto wipers and aluminium highlights.
    I have had a number of 'Sport' type models in the past from Golf GTis, Golf VR6 and four A3 1.8T Sports but my last four A3s have been SE and now I prefer the non-sport, comfort package of a quality car. Perhaps if I was 30 years younger I would be buying an S-Line but why pay an extra £1,000 over the cost of my spec of SE to get things that I don't like including the S3 seats, the black headlining, flat-bottom steering wheel and the S-Line alloys. If I find the seats in the Sport comfortable I may go for that model rather than add 17" wheels to an SE like I have to my existing SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    I personally am of the opinion that S line models provide a good overall package. Nicer sport seats, leather/part leather. Nice wheels. More sporty styling.., costs a bit more but hey why not if you like it! Most Audi buyers probably will!
    I know what I prefer, if I am paying out for a decent spec'ed A3 you might as well get the one you want, whatever that may be.
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    I only went Sport because it made financial sense - pretty much everything that the sport comes with was something i would have specced on an SE anyway, and it's cheaper to get the sport than add the options to SE. Still with SE suspension of course!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cemerson View Post
    Because too many people have boy racer aspirations? :P
    I was going to spec. a Sport, but ended up with the s-line. To start with, I wanted xenons. By the time I added those the fact I don't like the standard wheels, so would have spec'd a different set, and wanted Alcantara trim which is cheaper to add to the s-line, I was close to the s-line price. Given the residuals on an s-line vs sport is likely to be higher and the fact it looks meaner due to the more aggressive front bumper, I figured it would be better to spring for the extra and ordered the s-line.

    Of course, I could just be making that up and only went for it as I'm a boy racer....
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    I wanted xenons too, and alcantara, so I added them and still much cheaper than s-line. Wheels are fine for me. Bonus with sport is that the xenons are adaptive too, you don't get that with s-line without paying extra...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cemerson View Post
    I wanted xenons too, and alcantara, so I added them and still cheaper than s-line.
    There... I've corrected that for you..

    It was the residuals that did it for me...

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    corrected what?

    Residuals don't matter much to me, I'm intendig to keep my car. Spending less is better. Especially if the alternative is spending money to make it look 'more aggressive', what a pointless thing to spend money on :P
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    Close to £1000 difference once you add the adaptive xenons to s-line (which requires light & rain sensor pack)
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    Read it carefully...

    I will sell my car at some point.. The difference by the time I added everything I wanted was < £800. On £33k, it wasn't worth worrying about given the car styling looks better IMHO.

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    Oh... also the flat bottomed steering wheel helps when you are 6' 8" tall....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cemerson View Post
    I wanted xenons too, and alcantara, so I added them and still much cheaper than s-line. Wheels are fine for me. Bonus with sport is that the xenons are adaptive too, you don't get that with s-line without paying extra...
    Xenons £955 extra on sport (£1250 - £295 it costs extra for xenon plus it costs on S line extra to Xenons it comes with)
    alacantra £ 795 extra on sport (s line comes with upgraded bi-athlon cloth and part leather inc, personal preference but just as good)
    luggage pack £145 extra on sport (have to buy on sport to get upgraded cloth, comes standard with s line)
    = total £1895 extra paid
    = extra for s line is £2150

    "much cheaper" is £255.00 less than an S line, (which you will get back and plus some even if you don't sell for many years) which is under 0.8% difference on your spec.

    All personal preference on choices, but doesn't certainly doesn't save much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragup View Post
    All personal preference on choices, but doesn't certainly doesn't save much.
    Yes, that was the maths I did and came to the same conclusion.

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    Gotta compare like for like, can't just ditch alcantara for something else then say 'look it's the same!', it doesn't work like that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cemerson View Post
    Gotta compare like for like, can't just ditch alcantara for something else then say 'look it's the same!', it doesn't work like that!
    Yup.. Alcantara is £480 on s-line... Add £480 onto £255 and you come to <£800

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    Quote Originally Posted by gen.heinz guderian View Post
    Is having your car badged S line like having your BMW badged M sport?
    No, but I don't care about badges as I am more interested in what the car comes with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragup View Post
    Xenons £955 extra on sport (£1250 - £295 it costs extra for xenon plus it costs on S line extra to Xenons it comes with)
    alacantra £ 795 extra on sport (s line comes with upgraded bi-athlon cloth and part leather inc, personal preference but just as good)
    luggage pack £145 extra on sport (have to buy on sport to get upgraded cloth, comes standard with s line)
    = total £1895 extra paid
    = extra for s line is £2150

    "much cheaper" is £255.00 less than an S line, (which you will get back and plus some even if you don't sell for many years) which is under 0.8% difference on your spec.

    All personal preference on choices, but doesn't certainly doesn't save much.
    Did you forgot to add in the different bodykit as well, which I think adds to the car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuke2u View Post
    Did you forgot to add in the different bodykit as well, which I think adds to the car?
    didn't forget, Sline front bumper, rear bumper, side skirts, rear window spoiler, 18" alloys, s line door sills, upgraded s line flat bottom steering wheel, upgraded aluminium inserts,etc
    but Cermerson say he doesn't like S line extras and it makes car look like boy racer car and does care about extra residual value.

    So has no value to him, so apparently you can just ditch stuff and discount its value if you don't like it. (except alcantara apparently)

    have no problem with anyone preferring sport, an unusual choice for me and every ones different, each to there own as they say.
    but to say its "much cheaper" to spec up a sport to s line type spec (xenon's, upgraded cloth etc.) just doesn't add up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arad85 View Post
    Yup.. Alcantara is £480 on s-line... Add £480 onto £255 and you come to <£800
    Price of 2.0TDI sportback sport with alcantara, storage & luggage pack (reqd with alcantara) + xenon light pack - 25915
    Same in s-line (alcantara + adaptive lights) - 26800

    26800 - 25915 = 885, which is more than 800 last time I looked, and a significant cost for stuff I'm not interested in. Where the hell did you lot learn maths?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragup View Post
    didn't forget, Sline front bumper, rear bumper, side skirts, rear window spoiler, 18" alloys, s line door sills, upgraded s line flat bottom steering wheel, upgraded aluminium inserts,etc
    but Cermerson say he doesn't like S line extras and it makes car look like boy racer car and does care about extra residual value.

    So has no value to him, so apparently you can just ditch stuff and discount its value if you don't like it. (except alcantara apparently)

    have no problem with anyone preferring sport, an unusual choice for me and every ones different, each to there own as they say.
    but to say its "much cheaper" to spec up a sport to s line type spec (xenon's, upgraded cloth etc.) just doesn't add up.
    Yes, because someone brought my personal choice into question, I justify it with reasons to do with me. Obvious, no? And then you come along and tell me all the stuff I get with s-line that I'm supposed to care about, when we are still talking about why I chose what I chose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cemerson View Post
    which is more than 800 last time I looked, and a significant cost for stuff I'm not interested in. Where the hell did you lot learn maths?
    I didn't want the adaptive lights... I can't spec up a sport with xenons but without adaptive. So, for me the maths made it to below £800. I.e. what it would have cost me for my options....

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    Quote Originally Posted by arad85 View Post
    I didn't want the adaptive lights... I can't spec up a sport with xenons but without adaptive. So, for me the maths made it to below £800. I.e. what it would have cost me for my options....
    Great, but we weren't talking about you. You were criticising my maths on my options don't forget.
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    I'm really not convinced that the s-line styling package makes the car 'boy racer' at all, but if the saloon had a spoiler bolted onto the boot I think it would. To me the changes are a little more subtle than that but add to the 'ambience' of the car and gives it a slightly more 'unique' look to other cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cemerson View Post
    Great, but we weren't talking about you.
    Could you look a little further down your nose at me... I don't feel I'm being condescended to enough for 10:30am in the morning....

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    Nothing condescending, just fact!
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