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    Help me decide

    Ok so after my company decided to collapse last month(nice of them) and i lost my company car, i am now employed again and dont need to drive to work as i can get a train.

    I get a nice company car allowance but its purely a privilege and there are no requirements for me to get a newish car or even drive it to work.

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    I'm gonna spend about 1500 sometime over the next few weeks and save up the money every month, so i'm lookin at a few options and maybe you can all give me some ideas and or pointers.

    So far my shortlist is

    1. N/a Mr2 - had a turbo loved it and would like a nice little n/a to run about in, but then again i've had one already.

    2. 306 Gti-6/Xsi - Love em to drive but would be worried about reliability and the stupid way the french putting things together meaning i couldnt do alot of the work myself

    3. Civic Vti - i know i might struggle to find a decent one for this money

    4. mk3 GTI 16v - always been interested in these but not sure it'd really do it for me, might be bored of it in a month.

    5. Just get a grip and take a lease astra 3 door cdti for 190+VAt over 2 years(boring option)

    The car wont go very far at all, be lucky if it covers 10k a year.
    *Gone* 1997 A3 1.6 facelift headlights, 16"1.8t Alloys, full rear tints. 110k

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    Out of that lot I would go for the 306 Gti-6. Always got really good write ups for handling and smiles per mile back in the day.



    Or what about a Mk1 MX5? They are nice and cheap and easy to work on. And reliable.

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    Get a fiat coupe Turbo

    any one who says they are unreliable is talkin' ****e..

    any one who says they are no good has obviously never driven one

    any one who says they look ugly has a right to their opinion

    easily picked up for 1500 sov's
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    Now there's an idea, i'll have to look into that
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    Ok it looks a bit like a turbo in good nick will be just outside my budget but i could pick up a 16v or 20v n/a what are they both like?
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    MR2 or 306GTi6. Spent some time hammering a friends MR2 and they are a riot. Brother has a GTi6 and it's very capable (if a bit tinny/plasticy).

    Astra if you've had your brain removed and a packet of lard inserted in its place. We use Diesel Vauxhalls at work and I've been in more posh porta loo's at a music festival

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    i had a 20v turbo for four years and i can honestly say i nailed the crap out of it, and it Never went wrong (until i eventually blew it up) but after the life it had that was inevitable,

    I dont think you can go far wrong with any of the engines, but I would suggest you look here for a more informed view....

    http://www.fiatcoupe.net/press.php?ID=2&chapter=4
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    Last time I drove an Astra it was an AstraMax van. Bloody flying machine for some reason. Possibly due to a complete lack of mechanical sympathy from me whilst driving it.


    Feckin horrendous understeer though!

    From what I gather, the cars are the same. A bit nose happy.

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    I remember the older (mk4?) astra vans being quite quick, basically because there's no weight in them i think.

    Its kind of the boring option, if i was gonna lease a car i could get a 150 cdti astra 3 door or a 105bhp tdi golf for around the same money, and out of those two the astra wins every single time.

    mx-5's just arent really a car i've ever wanted, although im led to believe the early 1.6 imports are quite good, a bit quicker and more specced than the uk cars

    I like the fiat coupes but i keep finding myself going back to the mr2, i've wanted another one from the day i sold mine just cant help wondering if i'd miss the turbo pull.
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    another vote for the fiat coop. Had an LE and it was fricking awesome... even the contrasting pimp seats!

    One thing tho... the turning circle is like that of HMS Sheffield!

    Id go 20vT, 16vT, 20v. Wouldnt bother with the 16v straight.

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    If you don't need a car for getting to work or even once your in work, and it is going to be used purely for pleasure and private use, the last cars I would be considering would be an Astra or golf.

    Get something fast and fun, then you can spend every working hour looking forward to getting home and driving the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontraband View Post
    fiat coop.
    Is that like a chicken coop....but with a Fiat badge?





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    Ok i definately cant afford a 20vT

    possibly could just get a 16vt, are these the same as the straight 16v as in the engine needs to come out for almost any work??
    *Gone* 1997 A3 1.6 facelift headlights, 16"1.8t Alloys, full rear tints. 110k

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    1.8 16v, 2.0 16v and 2.0 16vt are all inline 4's... the 20valves all inline 5s

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    Quote Originally Posted by karl7900 View Post
    Is that like a chicken coop....but with a Fiat badge?





    urm, no... not quite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodenal View Post
    Ok i definately cant afford a 20vT

    possibly could just get a 16vt, are these the same as the straight 16v as in the engine needs to come out for almost any work??
    Clarkson paid 900 for his one on Top Gear, and I think that was a 20v wasn't it?

    What about a mark 2 GTi? I saw a stunning blue coloured 16v 3 door today on a H plate, and it looked mean as!

    Lots of interesting options around for 1500 I imagine, depends how much of a risk you want to take over reliability etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodenal View Post

    4. mk3 GTI 16v - always been interested in these but not sure it'd really do it for me, might be bored of it in a month.
    I had a Mk3 GTI albeit an 8v, had it for 8 yrs and never let me down once. Slow as hell though and the 16v isnt much better, I'd go for a mint Mk2 GTI 16V instead, they are cracking cars...
    Audi S3 Ming Blue
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    Mk3 Golf Gti Indian Red (gone but not forgotten........ the most reliable car ive ever owned...)

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    You'll get a tatty coupe for a grand, my mate bought one the other week.

    If i had that sort of money to buy a run around i'd get a Fiat Coupe, my mates one keeps up with my S4.
    S4.

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    what about one of these

    190 bhp rear wheel drive fun and classic insurance.....
    Audi S3 Ming Blue
    BMW 2.0td Compact Flamenco Red
    Mk3 Golf Gti Indian Red (gone but not forgotten........ the most reliable car ive ever owned...)

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    Honda Civic 1.8VTI 170 BHP LSD Half Leather 3 door hatch

    http://hondacar.free.fr/images/range/civic_1.8vti.jpg
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    How about a nice Ford Fiesta, plenty out there for the money, easy for parts, servicing etc, cheap to run, good mpg, enough carrying capacity for the weekly shop, comfortable on a cruise...................
















    Just kidding, how about a VW VR6? For 1.5-2k you can pick a good few Mk3 Golf or Corrado's, might have over 100k on the clock but they're a damn solid engine as long as they're maintained! Plus being pre-2001 you can polute to your hearts content & not get shafted on car tax!!
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    How about a Lancia Delta HF turbo, 1.6, 2wd but still good fun and a lot cheaper than the intergrale. I'm know there are some good ones out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Les 51 View Post
    How about a Lancia Delta HF turbo, 1.6, 2wd but still good fun and a lot cheaper than the intergrale. I'm know there are some good ones out there.
    Ooo I really really wanted one of those as my very 1st car, but ended up with a 1.3 Maestro instead!! They were very very very rust prone so if there's any still about they have no doubt been welded together a fair bit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickynibbles View Post
    Ooo I really really wanted one of those as my very 1st car, but ended up with a 1.3 Maestro instead!! They were very very very rust prone so if there's any still about they have no doubt been welded together a fair bit!
    I had a 1.3 for 3 years and loved it (sold it for a crappy escort!) But I almost bought a HF turbo earlier in the year and you'll be surprised how many good ones there are about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Les 51 View Post
    How about a Lancia Delta HF turbo, 1.6, 2wd but still good fun and a lot cheaper than the intergrale. I'm know there are some good ones out there.
    I had 4 Delta's in my time, two 1300's, one GT1600 and an HFie i kept for seven years, I loved that car and regret the day I ever sold it. They are one of the last of the affordable proper fun drivers cars, and in the real world not much slower than an Integrale, a lot more reliable than Lancia are given credit for! I reckon you would get a cracker for 1500!!
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    i used to have the 1.8 GtiE(or was it a 1.6?), it was great fun - but I always wanted the integrale
    Was A3 1.8Ts
    Now S3

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidhodgkinson View Post
    i used to have the 1.8 GtiE(or was it a 1.6?), it was great fun - but I always wanted the integrale
    1.6. 108 bhp (from memory)
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    Quote Originally Posted by quattrojames View Post
    1.6. 108 bhp (from memory)

    Whatever it was - it was one of the most fun cars i ever owned
    Was A3 1.8Ts
    Now S3

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    Yep I regret selling my 1.3 too.
    Here you go

    http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/563977.htm

    And found this one for a little more

    http://www.exchangeandmart.co.uk/iad...cbaM3PXa418545
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    That Martini looks quite tidy, not sure I would fancy a 2k Integrale though - could be a real moneypit! It might be an import too as to the best of my knowledge the first Integrale's were E reg, with just HF4wd's being D and E plate. Could be wrong though ...
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    Here is my 2p worth
    1. N/a Mr2 - Not had one myself, great cars by all accounts but it will be hard to find an unmolested model.

    2. 306 Gti-6/Xsi - over rated plastic and have hairy wheel arches. Every pug i've ever driven was sloppy and felt like a baked bean tin. however they were nippy.

    3. Civic Vti - Great Car, but you nailed it

    4. mk3 GTI 16v - Great Mark, however the people i know that have them had issues with the floor pan rusting. A well loved example would be a great car, if not a little heavy, but then they all have been since the mk3.

    5. Astra 3 door cdti Not a bad motor looks wise, not drive or experience one.


    Now ones you might look at too.
    Ford Focus - I hate fords but the focus is an ok car, and there a like a million of them out there.
    Seat Leon/Ibiza I loved my TDI and loads of car for your money if you can get one at the price you can afford.
    Now dont laught but
    What about a Fiat Barchetta, they are all LHD but go like $%^t off a shovel, great fun to drive.
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    Civic Vti - What year are you thinking? if you go EG shape, They are sooo tunable, proper drivers car, was my first car...set up the suspension like a go cart, light weight, you can easily get over 200bhp out of it and in something that weighs less that your shoe.. its crazy.

    ^^^#1 reccomendation... wait a while, get some more cash together, unless you change ur cars like socks, not something you can rush into.

    Mr2 non turbo is boring to be honest, a friend had one, civic pissed all over it.. too heavy for the engine, DOHC 16v 170 bhp i think, 2 seater, not practical and very hard to find a nice xample.

    never really liked the mk3 golfs, bit girly imo, dont know why, always thought it as the girly golf.. no offence to anyone but thats my thoughts anyway..
    if u go for the civic, let me know if you want any advice with them.. one of favourite little hatchbacks, definatly will own another one sometime in my life and it will be insane!
    Totally addicted to boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shy19s View Post
    Civic Vti - What year are you thinking? if you go EG shape, They are sooo tunable, proper drivers car, was my first car...set up the suspension like a go cart, light weight, you can easily get over 200bhp out of it and in something that weighs less that your shoe.. its crazy.

    ^^^#1 reccomendation... wait a while, get some more cash together, unless you change ur cars like socks, not something you can rush into.
    Yeah they are quite cheap to buy if you do some serious hunting, the engines are bomb proof and there is a lot of tuning potential for minimal cash, strip it out and do some cheap rate fiddling and you'll have quite a fast/decent car. MPG on them is pretty good too if you dont get addicted to the VTEC noise. I think the 6th generation is slightly nicer to look at/drive. Only thing you have to watch out for is the bodywork, arches, bottom of doors etc I dont think they were built for the UK weather....
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    Only thing you have to watch out for is the bodywork, arches, bottom of doors etc I dont think they were built for the UK weather....
    Not sure i agree with this one, i had a 1995 model, latest in the series had it for about a year and didnt have one spot of rust.. Compare that to the Audi's much later i.e 2000 onwards are rusting around the car.. I think hondas are amazingly built, in structure and in those amazing engines.
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    Well in the end i bought.......

    none of the above

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...:X:RTQ:GB:1123

    Looks nice and tidy just gonna change the belt when i get it home and then see how it goes.

    Always liked corrados if i enjoy having this one i'm gonna buy a nice VR6 in a few months
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    Nice! Could do with a smarter set of wheels though.

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    I know i really dont like the wheels but given that its cheap and i wont keep it long i dont think ill bother changing them unless i find somebody to swap me lol
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    Yeah, if your not keeping it long then I'd just leave them. Look a bugger to keep clean though.

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    Lol yeah i suppose it does kinda fit with that doesnt it

    ah well
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