B6 S4 originals. I had to bend the pin more as it was just flying out. Very poor design, plastic is weaker than the catches that secure it in, meaning you can easily damage the hub cap. Luckily, as you suggest, I have brute force and ignorance in abundance, so sorted it - cheers. now I just need to hope that my almost new Conti with a screw in it can be repaired......