Could say the same the other way...
meh.... SE, Sport, S-Line.... it's not an S3 is it :whistle2:
Isn't that the beauty of Audi?
We can all build the car that suits our needs and budgets...........
Anyway this thread has developed into an 'S-Line is best' type of thread which was not the intention. There are a lot of S-Line models about, no doubt for good reasons, but I wanted to see how many members drive an 8V A3 that was NOT an S-Line. Can we just get back to the original purpose and use a new thread to discuss the merits or otherwise of the different models. Thank you.
And my dealer is still trying to find a 2.0TDI-150 s-tronic "Non-S-line" for me to drive. The Sport he was borrowing from another dealer has just been sold so it's not going to be that one.
I'm taking delivery of an A3 Sport 1.4 COD on March 1st if that helps ;)
I've got an A3 Sport 1.4 COD with Xenon headlights, interior light pack, B&O, heated seats, lumbar support and comfort pack in brilliant red. :)
My first words on this forum just to say that I ordered a non S-Line A3 Sportback (not delivered yet). Could I afford an S-Line ? Yes, definitely.. Why not an S-line then? Well first because I find the exterior S-Line kit ugly and second because in my view a sporty look on a 5 doors diesel car (2.0 150 HP in my case) is not far from being ridiculous...
I have therefore gone for specs that do suit my needs/envies, such as B&O, Full Led, Full leather, etc.
That being said, when someone pays 30-40k (or even more) to buy a car, he definitely should be right. So there's no need to argue, just enjoy your car !
PS: I am a french-speaking Belgian so please apologize for any mistake
Well despite telling me their 2.0TDI SE s-tronic had been sold when I rang them yesterday Milton Keynes Audi have agreed to let my dealer borrow it for a couple of days so that I can drive it.
Now all I need is to try a Sport but trying to find one anywhere in the country including Audi UK seems impossible at the moment. I telephoned a couple of dealers today who have a second hand one for sale but both will only agree to a quick trip down the road which is a waste of time. The main thing I want to try with the Sport is the suspension and seats. If anyone has a 2.0TDI Sport s-tronic and would be prepared to let me drive it or alternatively take me out in it as a passenger please send me a PM. I could easily get my insurance company to insure me to drive it and of course I would treat it just as I would my own car. I live on the Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire border just off the A1 but would be quite happy to travel say 100 or so miles. Thanks
How about a Sport 184 Quattro S-tronic with SE suspension Dave?
I have no intention of spending £29k before discount on a car that I have not driven a similar model.
I know exactly what I want, even down to the options I would order, it's just that Audi dealers and Audi UK themselves seem so fixated on the S-Line that they cannot provide anything else in the range for potential customers to drive. I can undersatnd Audi dealers want to have a demonstrator for the popular S-Line but I would have expected Audi UK to have some of the other models available for dealers to borrow.
Perhaps I'll just wait until I next go to Germany!!
I have what you want but in manual
Reading Audi have a 3dr sport auto and 3dr se auto.
Nottingham Audi have a SB se auto. Sorry if you have already tried these and they have gone..... Was just searching the Synter app.
PS. The standard s-line seats are shown on P 45 of the brochure.
If you want to test the right wheels, bear in mind that Sport and SE have different wheels too...
I have already worked out a list of options to add to whichever model I order, perhaps not quite as long as yours!!
I find the seats in the non-sport models far less supportive.
SE = Roy Cropper model?
Haha, only joking boys :) :whistle2:
Well I did have the SE for 24hrs and spent over a hundred miles driving it and quite a few more going through all the different control system. I was very comfortable both the suspension and the seats and the handling was if anything a little better than my current Sportback even though it was running on 16" 205/55 tyres as opposed to my 17" 225/45 tyres. It was also quiet for a diesel.
But.... I still don't like the interior. The quality is fine but I still don't like the MMI system. I also found the interior mirror far too small and I would hate to drive at speed on the wrong side of the road on a German autobahn with a mirror that small.
So.... For now I'm going to keep my 2012 Sportback. I am also going to borrow a Golf 7 again and see if I still prefer the interior to that of the A3.
1 a larger auto dim mirror comes with comfort pack.
2. Golf is a rarer motor than an A 3 these days I reckon and comes with a fair bit of standard kit.. But
3 a Golf is not an Audi
4. Having used old and new MMI side by side in our cars for many months, once you get used to it the new one is better and intuitive. I now hate the older 8p Audi tech pack MMI location
I don't think I've seen a new a3 without the comfort pack or auto dim rear view mirror yet. I have seen the small mirror in the a1, surely they're not fitting that in the a3
re 3 - I have had a number of Golfs, including GTi's and a VR6, in the past and I'm not really a badge snob.
re 4 - I don't have any form of MMI in my present Sportback just the standard Symphony radio. I don't use a smartphone or iPod so a connection to those is not necessary. I don't even play the radio or the 6 CDs that often. But if and when I do I would prefer to use the touch screen in the Golf to the current set up in the A3.
Also a Golf with the same spec as I would have with an A3 would actually cost me nearly £2,500 less. Quite important as I now retired and the money will come from my savings. Both cars start off with an on-the-road price only £60 apart but I would add £5,450 worth of options to the A3 to get the to spec I would want whereas the Golf comes with much more as standard and I would only need to add £3,090.
Speaking to the chap I have bought all eight of my A3s from at the local dealers, who is now a sales manager, he has said he would be happy to supply which ever one I choose, Golf or A3. He also said they will both hold their value by the same amount.
I had a test drive in a 2.0TDI Golf with DSG back in April and I am going to have one for a day again soon so I will again be able to compare. I will probably decide that I prefer my current 2012 Sportback to either of them and keep it for another couple of years at least.
I have had the auto dimming rear view mirror on both the 8P and 8V and can confirm it is smaller in the 8V, and also think it is a little on the small side. But, after a couple of months you do not notice the difference and have driven in Europe (France) on a couple of occasions already and do not think the smaller size hinders the visibility significantly when driving on the right.
Daveotto has confirmed the 8V auto dim mirror is slightly smaller. In an 8P Black Edition and a 2012 Golf match the mirrors are a similar size.. circa 10in x 3in. I do not see how a slightly smaller size will make any difference driving in Europe (of which we do a lot).
Re the other points I am not suggesting you are a badge snob! Both are good cars, just seems VW's are less common than Audis these days which is probably because of many factors. 1. The perceived build quality and materials appear better and actually feel nicer in an Audi. 2. Discounts in my experience can be greater with an Audi than VW. Residual values (based on desirability) are undoubtedly greater. The overall cost over 2/3 years is probably very comparable.
We have experience of a touch screen Nav RNS510 in a Golf and have used new MMI Nav in new A3's, A7 regularly and MUCH prefer MMI to the VW Touch screen which appears far more clunky and less user friendly. The VW Nav is also not positioned so well in the Mark 6 or Mark 7 Golf.
I understand the 'being retired' comment but surely we all seek to get the best value for money from all our purchases whatever our situation.