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    Ive got a 2003 1.9 130 sport quattro avant.

    Being really careful (55-60mph on motorways, no air con, coasting whenever going downhill) I managed 42mpg.

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    Not true, the ECU does know whats happening when a proper tuning box if fitted - not a resistor in a box one that tricks the temp sender - this is most apparent if you watch the instant mpg, as with the box this is normaly higher, but if you boot it it will drop lower than before. I ran a box on my 1.9 115bhp PD for 8 months or so and I did get a slight improvment in ecconomy, but you have to think of it more as free power, as you get a extra 25+bhp with no drop in ecconomy.


    Ive just got my 140bhp A4 and from the 230 miles ive done this weekend it seems ill be getting 600 to 650 miles per tank, so thats roughly 40-43 to the gallon...tbh im a bit miffed by that, but is due a servce soon so im hoping that will improve things, and this has been mostly A and motorway work crusing at 70mph, and its not like the engines tight as its got 91k on the clock now.

    Quote Originally Posted by jameshughes1974 View Post
    You cant really believe what the DIS says if you are running anything other than a standerd car.
    It does its calculations on the assumption that everthing is factory.
    Chipped or "tuning boxed" cars are injecting more diesel per stroke but the ECU is blind to this.
    If you want accurate fuel economy calculations you have to go tank to tank and fill up at the same garage, at the same pump, with your car in the same direction to the click.
    You have to reset your trip miles to zero then when filling up again use this number and the amount of litres you brought

    mpg = miles /(litres of fuel x 4.545)

    This will give you a far better indication of where your car is at!

    And if economy is your thing use vagcom to adapt (lower) the amount of fuel per stroke.

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    Have just read my own message and to be clear I do mean tuning boxes outside of the ecu.

    I know that a chip change(remap) in the ecu might leave the DIS working correctly but am not too sure about this to give an answer.

    But any tuning box regardless of how much you paid for it (and thinking that paying more means you are getting a significantly better one) is modifying a signal external to the ecu.
    The ecu is blind to this and does its sums based on a "map/calculation" on the understanding that all the readings it gets to do this sum are coming from non modified parts/sensors within their normal operating range.

    Even if the said box didnt modify say the quantity of fuel just its timing you would still be invalid because any electronic component has a accuracy tolerance on it and this tolerance adds itself to the signal chain. eg most cheap capacitors could vary +20% from what they say on the label

    Clearly by modifying the signals to and from the ecu the DIS mpg reading will be made invalid.

    Dont get me wrong thats not to say getting your car chipped\boxed wont get you more MPG - it should get slightly more but the best way to find out is to do your own sum.
    Even an un modified car should be checked against the DIS manualy - you may be suprised to see a difference in some cases.

    Another example of this is when people change the wheels on the cars - usally to much bigger ones - the speedo is no longer calibrated and indicates the car is going slower than it actualy is.

    Your car may be that close that the DIS is more or less correct- or perhaps adding the box has made it correct!

    Regards your MPG - yep its a bit disapointing that each generation of A4's seems to be doing less MPG than the previous.
    I have a B5 110 TDI which is chipped to 143 doing 51-52 MPG normal/fast driving.
    I moly coddled one of the company A4's with a PD100 engine in it and couldnt get the DIS past 50- perhaps it needs calibrating

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameshughes1974 View Post
    You can't really believe what the DIS says if you are running anything other than a standard car.
    Even then mine is typically 3-4 mpg over optimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart_75 View Post
    Ive got a 2003 1.9 130 sport quattro avant.

    Being really careful (55-60mph on motorways, no air con, coasting whenever going downhill) I managed 42mpg.
    I'm surprised at that, I have a 2003 2.5TDi quattro avant, and driving carefully, ie less than 2500 rpm, and max 7-mph I can get spot on 40mpg. But I have never had to coast downhill or turm my aircon off!!

    I know the quattro typically sucks 5-10mpg but averaging 42 doesn't seem great to me. Depends on the roads you use I suppose ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdom71 View Post
    My daily commute (72 miles e/w) is spread over the M20, M26, M25 & M3, with about 10 miles of A roads. Going to work i average a true 53-54mpg (DIS 60-64). At the weekend it drops to mid 40's.

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    A3 2.0 TDI 140, get around 45 mpg driving reasonably with mix of motorway and town driving. In my case it really does not seem possible to get over 50 mpg on the motorway, even at 70 mph.

    From reading other peoples comments on this subject, I have come to the conclusion that the 1.9 engine is quite a bit more economical than the 2.0 litre. Still, the economy is a lot better than my previous car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meatychi View Post
    Compared to your mpg, I must drive like a nutter. the best i have seen on my DIS is 34mpg and i have the 98 V6 2.5tdi too, although I have got the lazy boy, tip Quattro, so that may have something to do with it!
    Same here i have a 98 v6 2.5TDI manual and im averaging 26 to 34 with mainly town driving, is there something up with mine?

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    My economy is being ruined by two massive hills I have to drive up every day!

    I used to get about 48 when I went to pompy and back (from guildford). But now I get 44 when I go to Petersfield and back. Grrr
    2004 140 TDi sport 3dr (new turbo)

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    Aye, around 46-48 this time of year. During the summer months mpg happily wanders up to 50-52.... wierd eh?
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    I have a 'Tunit box' that claims better performance and increased fuel economy.
    100% the truth!
    We was getting around 600miles per tank and can get around 700miles per tank now, well when the missus drives it lol. When you give it a bootful it drinks like f*ck now though but so worth it for the money (469)
    Although now i wish id had it re-mapped as i want to add further mods but such is life i guess. Will just sell the 'Tunit' when i get mapped!
    If it's got t*ts or wheels, it's TROUBLE!

 

 
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