S3 AD said:I think I remember hearing them talk about this one on Top Gear & I think they got it spot on, if its a girl driving then its subzero but if its a bloke then uncool - but a seriously capable car
Ess_Three said:Although the latter Evos are great to drive, there is not so much as a single nut or washer on that car that's cool.
Impressive...yes.
Capable...yes.
Fast...yes.
But cool?
Not even close...it's another soul-less, disposable, soon to be replaced, high-technology Japanese rocket...
Just not cool.
Fine drivers cars...just not cool in my eyes.
klauster said:seriously uncool, whats the point is going like stink if you look like a 100% plerm??? track day car maybe but would never want to be in one on a public road
jojo said:Are you joking? Do you really think owners of Evo's look like twats on the road?? OK they are not the best looking of machines we all know that, but they have a road presence that commands respect by the bucket load and we all know what they are capable of - in the right hands I must add - on the road.
Everyone who see's one would recognise it's an Evo, it will go down as a classic, if it isn't already, in the long term...
klauster said:completely serious, I do respect the car in terms of design, performance and engineering, but I stand by the fact I have seen lots of these and NEVER thought the person driving it was cool, and while I'd love 'a' go in one, if I was given one I wouldnt keep it, nevermind me buying one.
Sure these cars are great power, performance and handling but thats not what makes a car cool!
jesters3 said:How can you say: 'I do respect the car in terms of design, performance and engineering' and 'Sure these cars are great power, performance and handling' and 'I'd love 'a' go in one' and not say that is cool, it ticks all the boxes and then some. Admittedly it was a bitch to run and pricey but hey thats the catch of having a cool car!!
jesters3 said:How can you say: 'I do respect the car in terms of design, performance and engineering' and 'Sure these cars are great power, performance and handling' and 'I'd love 'a' go in one' and not say that is cool, it ticks all the boxes and then some. Admittedly it was a bitch to run and pricey but hey thats the catch of having a cool car!!
klauster said:no they dont, they dont tick the box marked cool!!!!!
more to a car then just performance and handling, what about the looks?? What about the desireability? What about the interior, and the quality of the materials used?
this car is all shagging and no foreplay if you ask me
Ess_Three said:I agree...
A very competent car...but not the sort of thing you lust after.
You'd buy one, thrash the **** of it, get bored of it (or go bankrupt trying to keep it on the road) then sell it for peanuts and move on.
Not cool at all.
Very fast...
Very impressive...
Very desirable (to Chavs and ex RS Turbo owners)
But cool? Not even close...
jesters3 said:but bored no way. Every time you got in it you heard voices, ..."you can make it"......"just a little bit..." and it was awesome and one cool experience that everyone should attain. Even the looks were cool, you have to admit that at least, come on !!!
Ess_Three said:You see...that's the problem for me...
You get in and drive a bit of road faster than ever before...you push harder and harder and the car almost laughs at you...it's just so ****** competent.
But after a while of going A-B faster and faster...you get bored...
Then one of two things happen:
You either sell it because although it thrills by you driving faster and faster...the car itself doesn't thrill...and you get tired of playing the same game...
Or you have a monumental off and probably die.
Nobody has small 'offs' in Evos...because they are so good toy end up binning at silly speeds.
I got to the same point with the S3...
Eventually, you want something that's alive and thrilling at 5/10ths...and almost everyone I know who's had one loved it...but doesn't aspire to another.
Great car...
Just not cool...I don't think you ever get tired/bored of a 'cool' car.
jesters3 said:I see your point, however from my view I see a car that offers everything you want and then some. No its no Gallardo or RS4 Avant (both other cool cars in my eyes) so it does away with the luxuries, but the thrill factor the grin and just the way it looks is what I (IMHO) deem cool.
I can't see the bored thing personally, yes you may tire of caning the **** out of it or get annoyed and ****** off that you have to shell out another £50 on 45 litres of 97 every 90 miles but you are not bored. Would I buy another for sentimental value and cherish her, yes I would if I had the cash. If I had to use it as a daily runaround then no I wouldn't as it woould be more econoically viable to buy a country then run it, but that said is what cool cars are about. High Maintenance but awesome to be in.
jojo said:maybe I need to own a Porsche, and it HAS to be a Yellow one at that, then Evo's might not be cool anymore.
Mandala said:Hadn't realised there was an original thread about these cars- will look harder next time.
Some people here contend that they aren't true drivers cars and that 'any muppet can drive them fast'. There's certainly a grain of truth in that but to get most out of one requires a driver with above average skill like any car really.
The question is how can something that will out perform most other cars on the road not be cool? I'd say that attribute qualifies it without exception (if of course you prize performance above qualities like soft touch plastics)
Ess_Three said:What's cool about it?
It looks awful...it cripples the owners with it's running costs...it's thrown together with nasty materials...and it's a favourite with the Chavs...
Cool?
I think not.
As an engineering project it's very impressive...but that doesn't make it cool.
I personally don't think you need a higher than average driving level to go very fast indeed in one..any Muppet can drive one...and drive one faster than they've ever driven before....because the car is sooooo good and does it all for you.
But see past the lift off oversteer induced power-slide...and it's a one-trick pony. You wouldn't pick one as an everyday car as they are too ****** stiff...at less than 8/10ths they just don't make sense.
Not cool.
Impressive...but impressive is not equal to cool.
ChriS3 said:I'll second that because I can't be ***** expressing my own, similar opinion
Respectable performance, just not cool.