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    Audi 80 2.8E Write-Off Value

    Anyone got an idea how much these cars are worth (2 wheel drive model)? My 2.8 was written off in style by a Land Rover Freelander last week and I now have the pleasure of arguing the toss with his insurers over its value.

    Having spent 2 years searching for a decent one I had the good fortune to pick mine up for not a lot of cash, but 10 weeks down the line (a new power steering pump and battery later) some pillock reverses onto it's bonnet and I'm up against the suits and their "It's just an old car" attitude. These are even rarer than the Quattro. Totally gutted!!!!!!

    I've just seen a 60k one advertised at 1975 at a dealership (can't sell many cars with prices like that) and as it's the only one currently for sale I'm having bother proving a believable figure to the swines.

    Could accept the value of a 2.6 but they are not as rare and 25bhp down on 2.8 (kind of like accepting XR4 money for a Cosworth, as I keep trying to point out). Who am I kidding, I'll be lucky if they offer me 1.9TDI money!!

    Any info on prices, number imported and how many survive would be greatly appreciated. Would also like another one if you see any good ones advertised anywhere but seeing as they were only made for 11 months I won't be holding my breath. Would also like to know what Glass's value car at, as Insurers seem to treat this with Bible like status.

    Your help will be greatly appreciated and assist me in getting rid of the horrendous 1.6 Scenic courtesy car currently parked on my drive. "In event of an accident you will be provided with a similar sized car". Similar car my a**e, where's the rest of the engine??????

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    Alan

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    mount a case for the insurers to read that they can't argue against. Use the example in the dealership as an example, as many other examples s you can find, your receipt when you purchased the car, the exceptional condition of the car, the time you spent looking for the car, the money you have spent on the car and the fact that you were going to keep the car for xx years because of its exceptional condition.


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    Thanks for that. Up against a brick wall here as that example at 1950 is the only one I can find currently for sale (searched dealers and forums on the internet for a week now).
    Supplied all info I can get my hands on and they didn't even have the courtesy to look at it. What chance do you have? My own insurance don't seem particularly interested either. Looks like fun and games on the horizon.

    Alan

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    I'd be roasting your own insurance here, after all thats what your paying them for TO COVER YOU, not walk away, not interested... asbolutely not, Tell your own insurance to wake up and smell the coffee, Its not you at fault here, its the other party and its UP TO THEM TO NEGOTIATE ON YOUR BEHALF FOR A BETTER PRICE not left to you whilst they sit back...

    Sorry, rant over, I'm not annoyed at you, it's these ratbag insurances that stitch you up big time then walk away when there's a bump Arrrrrggghhh!

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    Thanks for reply. In own insurers defence they have just sent an assessor out to view the vehicle, which strictly speaking they didn't have to, as guilty party's assessor has already seen the car.
    Saying that, I still expect to be offered 3-400 for it and the second word to that is off!!! Treble both figures and split the difference, I'd still be reluctant to accept. Must be worth more than 1150, surely?
    I informed insurers that vehicle was probably a write-off (uneconomic repair) and sorned it but wish I hadn't now, as other party's insurer insisted the car is drivable (despite the crumpled bonnet, headlights cracked and falling out, split bumper, slam panel bent, wings shoved down and possible bent crossmember). Should have taken it straight to Police traffic division for their opinion on that one. Whole front end looks twisted.

    Anyone seen one of these for sale anywhere? There was a Quattro for sale on eBay but I've been burned too many times and don't feel like another helping. It may be the best Quattro in the world but you've more chances of winning the lottery than seeing me part with a grand plus sight unseen ever again.

    cheers,
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    Further update. The Audi 80 2.8E in excellent to good condition, with full service history, on a 1991 J plate is apparently worth 640. Yep, 640. Doesn't matter what work has been done to it, the fact that it's a cherished vehicle, the time and effort you put in to tracking one down or the purchase price you paid and the money you've spent on it. 640 top whack. Well actually, if you argue like a madman you'll get that figure up to 700. But that's it!

    The 1991 J is not listed in Glass's guide, so they take the figure of a 92 J (which is, ???) and deduct a nominal sum from this. Works out at 10% difference for a car registered on Dec 16th 91, against a car registered on Jan 1st 92, cause it's a year older!??! Also, even though I spent quite a bit of money on the car during my 10 weeks of ownership, it's 10 weeks older so it's worth less. And this is from our assessor, who is supposedly on our side. God knows what the other side will come back with as an offer. Makes you sick!!!!!

    Moral of the story is that should you buy a 2.8, make sure you put it on a classic policy with an agreed value. Should you do any work which would increase it's value or desirability, inform your insurer straight away. And finally, stay away from idiots in Land Rovers.

    Car is actually worse than I thought and has been classified Cat 'B' due to subframe being twisted. When it is picked up by Universal Salvage, I'll let everyone know so they can bid on the salvage as it has a new power steering pump, recent full exhaust, recon gearbox and a superb engine.

    Question is, what the hell do I buy with 700? Sure as hell won't get me a car anywhere near as good. All insurers are thieving gits!!! Anyone giving away a 2.0E coupe? Thought not!!!!!

    Alan
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    Other parties insurer (AON) came back with an 'final' offer of £500. Sounded quite offended when I told him to 'f' off !!! Best let the lawyer loose on them, as I couldn't get a decent push bike for that.

    If you're the kind of driver who has a lot of crashes I recommend Aon highly. None of their clients are ever to blame for anything apparently. And the victim? Serves them right for being there and thus causing the collision. Tossers.

    Alan

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    Tell the guy your cousin is a gypsy that just cannot understand why he should not break down the insurances front door and do some remodelling on their staff members legs.

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    I would get legal advice and sue the driver for replacement cost in the small claims court. I am sure that HonestJohn (the torygraph motoring writer) has covered this. try his website.

    I dont believe that you have an obligation to deal with the insurer. Do you have witnesses etc? did police attend ?

 

 

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