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    Rear speakers in A3 buzzing??

    Hi,

    I've just got a 2000 audi A3, it came with an Alpine ipod head unit, but when the ignition is on I get a bad buzz out of the rear speakers. The local ICEman shop tells me its because the rear speakers are active and that I'd need to either simply disconnect them, or replace them with new speakers. Does anyone know if this is right?

    I've no real knowledge of speakers etc.. but I'd have thought there would have been an easier solution?

    Any adbvice would be much appreciated, cheers..john

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    You need to rewire the rear speakers to the HU. It's not the speakers at fault but the puny Audi amp driving them. The amp is inside the tupperware sub enclosure in the cubbyhole in the boot and also drives the sub, it's a piece of garbage (see below) as is the wiring to it and will always be likely to induce alternator whine & interference due to lack of proper screening. Plus it's only 2 x 20w whereas the Alpine will be kicking out at least 2-3 times that power so keeping it just gives you a total imbalance between fronts and rears.
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    Hi Andymac cheers for that. If I understand you right I need to disconnect the rear speakers from the head unit, then run new speaker wire from the speaker ouputs on the HU back to the speakers? presumably you can simply attach this new speaker wire directly to the existing speakers.

    If I can get the trim off I'll have a go at that. Strange the ICEMAN shop guy didnt suggest this. Cheers!

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    Yes that's right, "although disconnect the rear speakers from the HU" should read disconnect the rear feed to the rear amp, you can then reconnect the feed to the sub pre-out on the HU and then jack the sub level up in an attempt to provide some bass.
    You can connect the new wires directly to the speakers or if you don't mind losing the sub then you can pick up the feed to the rears from the sub connector which saves pulling the rear panels off.
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    Andymac you are a legend cheers. However I'm a total novice so if you dont mind bearing with me..?

    Just had a poke around, found the amp in the boot, I take it this is the rear amp, it has one big obvious connector, I also took the HU out, and theres pretty much just the one big plastic connector going into the back of it.
    When you say disconnect the rear feed to the rear amp, what is the rear feed,is it that the 4 wires that go to the rear speakers??, and do I make that disconnection at the rear amp itself or at the HU?

    Presumably its at the HU and I then take these four wires and plug them back into somewhere else (the sub-preout on the HU, not sure what that is, Ive got the circuit diagram but it just shows 8 leads going to the 4 speakers and then two sets of RCA connectors which you can run to either a front amp or rear amp. Is this the pre-out??)

    Then I get some new wires, stick them into the rear speaker outputs on the HU (which I have now freed up) and then run those back and connect them directly to the speakers.

    Is that about right?

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    When you say you found the amp in the boot, do you mean the one inside the sub enclosure as shown above?
    The connector should be a red one like this:

    The HU will have it's own loom, you need to trace this back to the Audi loom which is most likely stuffed down the back somewhere to make room for the wiring.
    Somewhere behind the dash will be 3 connectors:
    Black power ISO - standard ISO plug providing power to the HU
    Brown speaker ISO - only 4 wires on this as it just feeds the front speaker outs from the HU to the front speakers.
    20 pin mini ISO - long thin connector either black or multi coloured (yellow/blue/green)
    This is the feed to the rear/sub amp and should in theory be either plugged into a red adapter which then connects to the rear RCA's on the Alpine or a big chunky line out converter (usually covered in foam) which will then be plugged into the rear speaker output on the Alpine. There are 2 different ways to feed the rear amp from an aftermarket HU, via the pre-outs or via the speaker output, so it'll be one of the above. Just pull all the wiring out and remove the glovebox if you have to as this makes feeding all the wires in/out a lot easier otherwise it's easy to pull the wires from their connectors if they get caught on something.
    Can't really recommend what to do until you have confirmed how it is wired up at the moment, post some pics of the wiring would be really useful.
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    I'll try to get a few pictures tomorrow night and post them up. There was a red connector like your picture in the cubby hole enclosure in the boot. And I'll pull the HU out and see what I can see stuffed down the back. Cheers!

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    Ok I took a few pictures there. Here is the cubby hole in the boot and a (blurred) close up of the red connector.




    Then I took out the HU and took a few pictures:


    With a few more close ups, hopefully it shows something useful?








    Does this give any clues?

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    Can't actually see where the feed to the rear amp is coming from. This is the adapter that takes the feed to the rear amp:

    There should be 4 wires going into it left signal, right signal, signal screen and a remote on 12v trigger to switch the amp on when the HU is on.
    You have no RCA's connected at all, so they must have used a hi-lo converter on the rear speaker outputs which is why you're getting buzzing, but from the picture it almost looks like they just wired the speakers directly into the rear amp, which you cannot do as the signal is way too powerful.
    Can you trace those wires back and see where they go?
    The red adapter plugged into the blue/green/yellow Audi plug should have RCA sockets on the end, which should then be plugged into the rear RCA output on the back of the HU. Then there will be a single blue flying lead which connects to the power antenna lead on the HU to provide the 12v trigger to turn the amp on.
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    Think i can help here. What you need is one of these

    Your HU should be capable of generating the needed 1.21 gigawatts of electricity to get it going. Just be sure to stay below 88 miles per hour...

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    and you'll need to wire it directly to the battery otherwise you'll keep blowing fuses!
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