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    Thumbs up I took the Plunge!!

    Well i decided to purchase myself a DTUK crd-t box for my 2.0tdi 143. I was unsure whether to remap or go for this option and i'm so happy i did! The power is amazing!! It has transformed everything about the car, i did used to think that the power was sluggish from 1000 to 2000rpm as the engine was slow to pick up but all that has gone. The service at DTUK was absolutely fantastic and a big thanks to Andrew and his team for all his hard efforts!
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    Also the build quality of the box is second to none and the harness looks vag quality so doesnt stand out in the engine bay.

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    I have been looking at tuning boxes ... I would like to understand what the difference really is between a box and a remap ( apart from the obvious one is a plug in box and the other isn't !!!! )

    There seems to be two types of box which version did you go for and why ??
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    I have been looking at tuning boxes ... I would like to understand what the difference really is between a box and a remap ( apart from the obvious one is a plug in box and the other isn't !!!! )

    There seems to be two types of box which version did you go for and why ??
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    Basically the tuning box sits in the engine bay and plugs into the engine intercepting signals from the ECU and altering them before sending them onto the engine.
    The cheaper ones usually just force more fuel into the engine to make more power, but the more advanced ones alter more than just fuel.

    A remap reconfigures the mapping within the ECU itself, so more can be altered with better results.

    The only advantage of a tuning box as I see it over a remap is that it can be removed quickly and the dealer wont even know it was there.
    A remap is harder to remove, and the dealer can detect it was there.
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    I heard with the remap that the Dealer can also overwrite the remap settings back to default or something like that?

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    Yeah sometimes dealer will plug something in and it will overwrite it. oops
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    So you just go back to your tuner and have the map reloaded.
    No biggie
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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidfusionv View Post
    I heard with the remap that the Dealer can also overwrite the remap settings back to default or something like that?
    I asked my Audi dealer and they told me in very clear words they will invalidate my warranty if i do this ..... now i know this is a hot topic and there seems to be very mixed responces around this so this is why i was thinking of a Box rather than the remap as mu ecu has to be removed from the car to be mapped i have been told !!

    Can we get some scientific responce on the box soloution V the remap ?? does anyone have access to that info as i cant seem to find any test of a box V an ECU remap ???

    one of the things that confuses me is if these boxes just pump more fuel as Viceroy has stated how can they deliver fuel efficency while doing that ??

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    I'm keen to improve the performance of my (otherwise fantastic) B8 A4 Avant 143 and like the sound of the DTUK CRD-T box, but share the same concerns as some of the other posters in other threads on the remap / box subject...

    I was booked in for the full DPF removal and remap last year, but fear of my insurance company not paying out if the worst happened (along with the accompanying loss of other useful stuff like legal cover) meant I started looking for specialist insurance quotes taking into account the modifications, but they proved prohibitively expensive in the end, so I didn't go ahead. I was contacting sponsors of this site and others, as none of the traditional insurers would touch it, but quotes were literally double what I currently pay, even though the factory 177 model would cost the same as my 143! Bonkers!

    I'm well aware that insurers / main dealers can identify cars with remaps too, so I guess there's no real difference with a visible box in the engine bay at the end of the day and it's down to the individual to risk it or declare it and stump up for the extra insurance premium. I'm starting to lean towards 'risk it' again, but I'd love to know what others do / think...

    If you've come clean your insurance company, how were they, how much did the premium increase and, if they're any good, who are they?!

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    I have a remapped B7 2.0 TFSI. Cost me £26 extra with Admiral.
    My car's for sale, B7 A4 2.0T FSI Shark Stage 1... http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/sale-wa...ml#post2125831

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    Hot topic as usual! Take the plunge you wont regret it and you can remove it when needs be, so no worry of warranty being invalidated. The mpg has risen from 45 mpg at 75 mph to 56 mpg at 75 on a run, massive gains!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotty76 View Post
    I have a remapped B7 2.0 TFSI. Cost me £26 extra with Admiral.
    Well I have been with Admiral for over 13 years insurance was on an imported VW Passat 2.8 V6 4Motion, I changed to a S4 man tran - but with a Milltek exhaust (fitted by previous owner), and Admiral really hammered me, but as I wanted to make life easy when buying the car I just took it on the chin. I must remember to look elsewhere when it is time to change. Makes me think of how much else I could change without another hike in price.

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    Sorry to hear that. I was with Direct Line but they wouldn't touch a remap. Got quotes via Money Supermarket and Admiral were cheapest. Maybe have a look?
    My car's for sale, B7 A4 2.0T FSI Shark Stage 1... http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/sale-wa...ml#post2125831

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    I think that it is the old adage, loyalty does not exist nowadays, I had that trouble years ago, with Commercial Union - so walked! It could be that I need to move to Audi insurance services, they gave me a very tempting offer with a month's cover included with the car, which suited me as I had the old car to get rid of. I'd doubt if the Audi selling dealer really considered the effect of it having a "sport" exhaust, so after I would have disclosed that fact, the quote given would probably have changed, time will tell as I reckoned if I cancelled my old car insurance which was just one month into the next year, I would lose as much as I would have got skinned to top that old policy up for the S4.

    My only grump about Admiral and probably all other insurers was, as I imported my car, the cover started two weeks before I reg'd the car as I was driving it back home on Dutch transit plates. So, if just allowing them to grab money at renewal time, they allow a month's cooling off period, this means that the insurance database is not updated until well after the road tax is due, so road tax needed to get bought at Post Office, which was okay as it gives them work, but not as handy as buying on-line! The obvious thing to do was to buy 6 months tax once to split things up - I only gave in to that after about 8 years as that is just throwing money away, but at the end of the day it depends on what price you put on convenience!

    If staying with Admiral, I might try their multicar policy as I have two cars (mine and wife's) with Admiral cover, and have had for 11 years - reason originally was that Admiral claimed to be able to cover personal imports on their chassis number, this has been proved to be wrong, insurance industry in Europe protects all their own domestic markets and that means that while you might use an insurance company that operates in the country where you buy a car new, if it is not the country where you permanently live, then you can't get cover for initial and final use - think we might call it them using their powers to their advantage. It did make me feel a bit exposed while driving to the ferry with the second car covered only by the 3rd party Dutch transit plates, but life is an adventure and I had paid just a "proper" price and not VWUK's crazy price, currently VWUK are owned by VWAG, I don't know who owns AudiUK. I seem to remember that Audi or Porsche tried importing Seats into another UK country using the method I used - naughty them as that loophole was only intended for buying "means of personal transport" - they got hammered but have they ever paid up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian_a4 View Post
    Well i decided to purchase myself a DTUK crd-t box for my 2.0tdi 143. I was unsure whether to remap or go for this option and i'm so happy i did! The power is amazing!! It has transformed everything about the car, i did used to think that the power was sluggish from 1000 to 2000rpm as the engine was slow to pick up but all that has gone. The service at DTUK was absolutely fantastic and a big thanks to Andrew and his team for all his hard efforts!
    One week in Christian and how is the box going ?
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