Thread: 2011 Audi a4 2.0 tfsi quattro stage 1 revo remap

Hello,
I own a 2011 Audi a4 211 bhp 2.0 tfsi quattro saloon manual and i am going for a stage 1 revo remap soon,
The revo remap will go from 211 bhp and 258 lbs/ft to 305 bhp and 320 lbs/ft which is a stage 1.
Then engine factory standard on the 2.0 tfsi b8 has a larger turbo and a excellent intercooler and a vvl engine (variable valve lift) which is very responsive to tuning and can withstand the power of the revo remap without no other modification or upgrade safely. the power is still within its limits other of other engine components not to get damaged, revo told me that they would not put my car under any harm because if something went wrong there would be a bad name for reco.
As the car has a tri core locked ECU to prevent remapping. they will take the ECU out of the car, the ECU is bolted in by bolts which the heads pop off when they are fully screwed in so they have to pattern a screwdriver pattern on the bolts locking the ecu in and unscrew and unlock the ECU via there computer and insert it back into the car again, and put new bolts back into it again so Audi can not tell that it has been fiddled with rarely they look at the ECU anyway. then they remap it by the old fashioned way ( under the steering wheel)
Cant wait to get it done

beiing a Dynamik owner myself, i'm getting very tempted by this. d'you mind me asking what this would cost?

you'll have to keep us up to date over a month or so, see how your mileage etc is doing.

Are you going to get it RR'ed before and after to see what the actual change is?

I'm sceptical about taking out the ECU to 'unlock it' surely there are some way the dealer can see this has been done and then would void any warranty left on the car.

I've posted this many times but it keeps coming up :

No manufacturer can void the warranty on your car due to a modification like this.

You have the normal warranty in place. IF something went wrong and IF it was demonstrated that your mod caused it then of course that particular repair wouldn't be covered under the warranty and you may also find yourself paying for the time and effort incurred by Audi to prove it was your mod. Unrelated items e.g. radio, etc etc are unrelated and hence unaffected.

What I'm sceptical about is the Revo figures. They're huge in comparison to other respected tuners. If it's possible then why aren't they all at a similar level.

Scotty, i'm a little surprised by Revo's claims too, though i'm a total newb in this stuff so i can only take them at their word. regarding comparisons, to be fair the Dynamik is extremely ltd (400 in the UK) so maybe not many other have had one remapped yet? they did say on the facebook page that the engine/cooling/turbo was very impressive, but beyond that i'm not even remotely qualified to enter into the debate!

yes i have been speaking to the guy who has has the same car as mine remapped and he got it rolling roaded at 306 bhp, but i am not to bothered if it isnt fully at that at least i get a remap which i wanted in the first place booked in for tomorrow will let you know but it is the same engine as the s3 and the s3 has 265 bhp and you can remap the s3 up to about 300-310 bhp but the 2.0 t in my a4 is just the same but engine power wound down, it only needs to be put back to what it can go up to.
Revo are one of the best tuning companys in the world for vag and know the best. when i spoek to revo they said the a4 2.0 tfsi b8 was one of the best engine mades and are the best engine to tune as it the same engine is in a s3 and a tts

the cost will be £500 there is quite alot of work involved in the job ( 3 hours worth infact)

super unleaded petrol also must be used at all times to get the best performance out of the remap, it should be used at all times anyway i suppose :0

I'd put APR up there as one of the best Audi tuners but there figures are no where near this. I just can't get my head around why it's so different.

Im shocked and amazed at the claims of nearly 100bhp from just a remap. I would be well happy if I got that for £500
Weird the s4 redo remap is double that price

The A4 containing the S3 engine must be the worlds best kept secret, no idea why Audi would do it either.

Good luck with the remap.

from a sales point, i don't get that at all - surely putting the Dynamik out at 265bhp would've made them even more of a cherished ltd edition? not sure why Audi would make a sporty bugger, hoy in a big engine then choke it off by almost 60hp? :-/

Remap done today ! 305 bhp and sorted ! fantastic ! it has just totally transformed the car proper good job highly recommended, it took 4 hrs :0

v power shell fuel is the best top of range stuff no matter what anybody says, it is used in and Ferrari racing, it is the best performance fuel to get the most of your performance and high octane good for the engine

Originally Posted by Audi dynamik

yes i have been speaking to the guy who has has the same car as mine remapped and he got it rolling roaded at 306 bhp, but i am not to bothered if it isnt fully at that at least i get a remap which i wanted in the first place booked in for tomorrow will let you know but it is the same engine as the s3 and the s3 has 265 bhp and you can remap the s3 up to about 300-310 bhp but the 2.0 t in my a4 is just the same but engine power wound down, it only needs to be put back to what it can go up to.
Revo are one of the best tuning companys in the world for vag and know the best. when i spoek to revo they said the a4 2.0 tfsi b8 was one of the best engine mades and are the best engine to tune as it the same engine is in a s3 and a tts

FFS ! The a4 engine is NOT the same as the S3 ! The S3 doesn't have valve lift for a start. Which idiot keeps telling you it is ?

Originally Posted by Audi dynamik

v power shell fuel is the best top of range stuff no matter what anybody says, it is used in formula 1 racing and Ferrari racing, it is the best performance fuel to get the most of your performance and high octane good for the engine

Absolute B.S. !! I actually think you might be a forum troll trying to wind people up!

It's not used in F1. It has to be similar due to F1 rules but it's not the same. In the same way other high octanes are similar to V Power but aren't the same.

If the map provides 305bhp then this has to be the best BHP/£ modification ever invented! Bet your chuffed to bits.

Looks a great car to be honest, not a big fan of the latest a4 but the dynamik looks quite sharp.

Originally Posted by warren_cox

If the map provides 305bhp then this has to be the best BHP/£ modification ever invented!

We all know that there's limits and the limiting factor varies. IF (and it's a massive IF) 305 could be obtained from a stock A4 with just a remap then I'd be wondering how? To get double what the other respected (and not so respected tuners! are getting you have to question it. How much boost is running? Are the injectors even able to fuel to that level? What's the A/F ratio? etc etc

I honestly wouldn't go near this map, IF 305 is meant to be just from a remap, without a lot of explanation and then a lot of cross examining of the other tuners as to why they can't get near this figure.

Revo have their own page here, maybe they could post a few details to clarify?

edit again : just been looking through some links from this site. AMD state they get about 55BHP increase on an B8 A4 Stage one, but they've listed the stock as being 258BHP :-/
that would obviously push the figures over the 300, but i dunno where they get that stock number from, i thought the Dynamik was the top end at 211PS? When i was going through the Audi configurator it showed only the 3l models higher, at 245.

Why i got this remap i don't know ? it was fast enough already, got a letter through the door notice of intended prosecution off a mobile camera van !! got done for speeding on the way to get it remapped !

i went to Audi and they all told me that the 2.0t a4 b8 is the same engine as the s3 and shell v power is used in formula one only saying what they are saying haha !

OK so let me break it to you what everyone on Audi forums know only too well :

Don't believe what dealers say

208Bhp according to Parkers.. . http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...on-2008/51390/

Evening all, it appears AMD have got there knickers in a twist. As mentioned above they have listed the bhp and lbs/ft figures, but it initially appears that they have the b8 2.0 tfsi pegged at 258 bhp, however this is the just t/ft figure.
This is obvious when you look at the listed lbs/ft figure of 208, which would suggest the unit is naturally aspirated extreme vtec type unit.

Would have thought with the revo map increase you would need an uprated fuel pump.. ..?

nope, i got told by revo hq no other mod is required they said they wouldnt let me have any software which will ruin your car as it will get a bad name for revo which they do not want

Whilst a HPFP is a good upgrade for this strained VAG part it's not absolutely essential till you go Stg2.

Originally Posted by Audi dynamik

i went to Audi and they all told me that the 2.0t a4 b8 is the same engine as the s3 and shell v power is used in formula one only saying what they are saying haha !

Ha ha ha ha. Who at Audi told you that ? The receptionist or the YTS car wash boy ?

Another wise tale:

If you're in an Audi dealership how can you tell whether the staff member your speaking to is lying to you.....????

Their mouth is moving!!!

I contacted REVO with some questions on the remapping of the A4 Dynamik. They have confirmed that the expected BHP increase is from 211bhp to 305bhp as stated in their spec sheet. I am still dubious as to how it can be such a big increase. My next plan is to get mine done and rolling roaded. I am just a little scared that this huge jump in power will kill something in the car. I see a lot of mention of the Dynamik having the K04 turbo instead of a K03. Is this not the same in all B8 2l TFSIs? I knew it was a 'special' edition but this really would be special. Also why would Audi wind the power back so much? Sooooooo many questions......

Originally Posted by riggssuzuki

I see a lot of mention of the Dynamik having the K04 turbo instead of a K03. Is this not the same in all B8 2l TFSIs? I knew it was a 'special' edition but this really would be special. Also why would Audi wind the power back so much? Sooooooo many questions......

Because people are miss informed. Look under the bonnet ;-)

So does anyone know the real story. I am going to remap the car but what should i expect. The other dynamik owners seem fairly sure of the REVO remap. No mechanical issues with all the extra power? ANy does anyone know actual facts around this huge increase in power compared to other remapping companies. I really do not want to wreck the car that i love.

It's probably worth posting in the Revo section to get the official line from Kev or Carl on this.

If it has the K04 and has been detuned to fit into Audi's hierarchy then this car is blessed and a great opportunity as the engine is good for 300 horses with no other mods.

Revo wouldn't risk their brand reputation making up fictional claims, but I'd advise getting a definitive statement from the horses mouth just to be 100%

I got just that. So looks like the car is good for 300 hp. Su bloomin perb. Audi missed a trick with this one. Limited to a run of 400 and looks just awsome and has huge potential.

Originally Posted by riggssuzuki

So does anyone know the real story. I am going to remap the car but what should i expect. The other dynamik owners seem fairly sure of the REVO remap. No mechanical issues with all the extra power? ANy does anyone know actual facts around this huge increase in power compared to other remapping companies. I really do not want to wreck the car that i love.

I've seen with my own eyes looking at boggo A4 engine and a Dynamik engine my local dealership. They both have the same engine code and same turbo. The turbo is defo not a K04. It's a "K03" designate made IHI.

Does anyone have a pre and post rolling road printout of this supposed 305bhp output ?

Originally Posted by riggssuzuki

I got just that. So looks like the car is good for 300 hp. Su bloomin perb. Audi missed a trick with this one. Limited to a run of 400 and looks just awsome and has huge potential.

Forgetting the actual names behind the claims, if
[a] one company on the internet said they could get over 300bhp and
[b] every other tuner said 250-260
which is more likely to be true?

If it then turned out to be true, would you
[a] rush head long into it believing it's the best thing since sliced bread and that the Audi engineers are a bunch of dimwits or
[b] ponder long and hard and wonder how they're acheiving this and what are the potential downsides. Then spend some time researching it, finding out about the fueling, the boost pressures, etc etc?

Wise words scoTTy
However surely reputation also counts for something. I was under the impression that REVO had a good name and many different sites seem to hold them in high regard. If/when i do decide to get it done i shall post dynos before and after. Either way i fancy some more power!!!!!

Originally Posted by scoTTy

Forgetting the actual names behind the claims, if
[a] one company on the internet said they could get over 300bhp and
[b] every other tuner said 250-260
which is more likely to be true?

If it then turned out to be true, would you
[a] rush head long into it believing it's the best thing since sliced bread and that the Audi engineers are a bunch of dimwits or
[b] ponder long and hard and wonder how they're acheiving this and what are the potential downsides. Then spend some time researching it, finding out about the fueling, the boost pressures, etc etc?

I'm not gonna comment on Revo specifically.

Would you expect any tuner in the world to be able to get twice what anyone else can?
Why can't other equally repected tuners?

I'm not on a mission to critisise them. I simply don't see how they can achieve these figures with just a remap.

Originally Posted by scoTTy

I'm not gonna comment on Revo specifically.

Would you expect any tuner in the world to be able to get twice what anyone else can?
Why can't other equally repected tuners?

I'm not on a mission to critisise them. I simply don't see how they can achieve these figures with just a remap.

I agree. And a pre and post remap rolling road print really is needed for this. Also where on REVO's ACTUAL web site says the dynamiK get 300+ bhp from a remap. I can't find it anywhere, Revo | Audi .

People need to remember that in the UK all REVO shops bar HQ are just franchises. And franchises can spout any old rubbish to get people through the door.

Revo | Contact

I have just read it. Go to the revotechnic website. On the right you will see 2011 applications list. Go into there and download the UK one. You will see it listed there.

http://www.revotechnik.com/resources..._%20301111.pdf

Here is the list.

Ok... Well being pedantic, but the stock BHP is not 211. It's 211 ps. They must have found a lot of performance out of the Valve lift system then, still no graph though so 300+bhp might be a very tall spike ?

On another note. As this images will show all the A4 2.0TSI turbos are the same;



Just the one part number for 2.0TSI A4 engines

Glad we are getting cleared up on all this. Hey even if it makes 250 i will be happy. There could even have been a mistake made on the pdf sheet as most companies seem to hit the 250 ish mark. It would be great to see a 300 dyno chart though if anyone has got one. I will post mine when i get it done. At the end of the day the car looks great and runs even better. Interesting how none of the REVO guys have commented.......

cheers for both those uploads, tho still nothing seems to have definitively sorted the issue :-D
love that PDF for the RS6 : 700HP!!!!

Originally Posted by riggssuzuki

Glad we are getting cleared up on all this. Hey even if it makes 250 i will be happy.

Lets assume it is 250. Then if you're paying for that figure and there's a choice in the market place, wouldn't you want to compare the maps (power can be delivered in a variety of ways some of which you may not like), the prices, the boost pressures, fuel consumption and reputation of the tuners?

It sounds like you're all set on it regardless?

Unfortunately there is not a huge choice of re mapping company where i live. Mostly its REVO. They seem to have a good reputation by the posts i see on this and other sites. They also seem to be a fairly large company (albeit franchised I believe). I doubt if they would be a company to justs 'wind up the boost'. I have looked at APR, CC and REVO. If anyone here can recommend anyone else to consider in the NE of Scotland either Inverness area or Aberdeen then i am open to suggestions.

Don't forget to consider that you can get maps on portable tuning devices. I'm not sure every B8 A4 can be done like this as I believe Audi like making it difficult but if you've a limited choice then this may give you more options.

I did look at the likes of bluefin etc but for some reason their power/torque claims seem to be much lower than an actual remap.

the blue fins cant be used on our car rigg, our ECU is locked i have tried it, The Ecu will have to be took out and unlocked and out back in before you can use the blufins, personally i think you are better with a remap rather than a Bluefin or any other hand held device

Calle a REVO agent in Inverness. He has promised to email me all the details today.Cost, expectations etc Great guy, very helpful. Cost, expectations etc. He does not do a rolling road but i will go to Aberdeen at some point and get 'her' checked out once its all done.