I got mine from ebay and then bought some EBC red stuff pads from EBC themselves, never had a problem and really made a difference! They never, ever faded. I even stood on them at 150mph (on a privete road of course) and they nearly ripped my face off from the force then used them hard again for slip road and they stopped me even harder! G3t better and better the more you use them! Was the pads mainly but a good combo with the discs!