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    One possible alternative fix for the BLB engine boys is to replace the existing design with a like for like using one of the kits from Powemax in n ireland. If you search Audi Oil Pumps on ebay you will see several of these for sale.
    Not the best long term solution as all it will do is reinsate the existing design but it should give a car an aditional 40,000 miles PLUS to its life. just athought for those who are cash strapped ................

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    Ok thanks for the link on that Wrath.Well the wife rang audi yesterday and they are denying that ANY of these faults have ANYTHING to do with what they did.They are happy to have it,but you know what that will mean...What a complete shower.I just think they simply do not know what they are doing? How can they possibly have took it for a test drive and be happy with it??? I take it the test drive was accross the carpark.

    I am hopefully taking it to a friend of mine later who knows his stuff. When i reeled off the list on the phone he suspects (re the lack of heating) stat failure/removal as oppose to air lock, and regarding the other stuff he thinks it MAY be early signs of turbo failure. Reckons he can do some tests on the turbo and we will be checking all the pipes. Can't believe the bonnet on this thing is up more often than down. Find it embarrasing. Will post up what he finds.

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    Hi All,

    I have an Audi A4 2.0tdi 55 plate, with 83k on the clock with FSH (not all Audi's),I had problems with the oil warning light and no oil pressure on two occasions, the 2nd time I called the AA to recover the vehicle to a garage that I use, they have diagnosed this as the Oil pump Hex shaft, its in Audi Sheffield (Meadowhead) and they want £300 to look at it to diagnose this themselves 3hrs @ £100 p/hr!!, they have called me today to say that it is the oil pump Hex shaft and it will be £2.7k to repair and they are not willing to give any goodwill!!!.

    From reading on here this is a general problem that Audi know about, dose anyone know if we have any claim against them due to our under our 'Consumer rights??, thanks

    The parts to relace this are on back order with Audi and will be approx £1.1k

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    Tony,not that i know of mate,but people are trying hard to pursue it...

    Regarding ours,the 'general view' of my mate was as follows;

    Re heating,has to be the stat,either they removed it or by coincidence it has failed.

    Re the other problems - reckons the engine sounds healthy enough.Tested the turbo by pipe removal/suction and again reckons all is well,the same method used for air leaks and as all the pipes collapsed he was happy that i have no air leaks either.So his opinion is that my lumpy idle / missfire splutter at 2000rpm could be one or more of three components;

    1) EGR
    2)MAF sensor
    3)Injector wiring loom

    He suspects the EGR as the most likely,so removal and clean up of that is first port of call. New stat in my possession. Am looking at sunday/monday weather permitting to change stat/clean EGR. If that fails,he will test the maf sensor and go from there. Should i be looking at changing posts ,i feel i'm kind of off post with this now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony2011 View Post
    Hi All,

    I have an Audi A4 2.0tdi 55 plate, with 83k on the clock with FSH (not all Audi's),I had problems with the oil warning light and no oil pressure on two occasions, the 2nd time I called the AA to recover the vehicle to a garage that I use, they have diagnosed this as the Oil pump Hex shaft, its in Audi Sheffield (Meadowhead) and they want £300 to look at it to diagnose this themselves 3hrs @ £100 p/hr!!, they have called me today to say that it is the oil pump Hex shaft and it will be £2.7k to repair and they are not willing to give any goodwill!!!.

    From reading on here this is a general problem that Audi know about, dose anyone know if we have any claim against them due to our under our 'Consumer rights??, thanks

    The parts to relace this are on back order with Audi and will be approx £1.1k
    Ah, this is how Audi sting you. It is likely that if your car had a full Audi service history then they would be a little more accommodating but since you haven't you are being screwed even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpyman View Post
    He suspects the EGR as the most likely,so removal and clean up of that is first port of call. New stat in my possession. Am looking at sunday/monday weather permitting to change stat/clean EGR. If that fails,he will test the maf sensor and go from there. Should i be looking at changing posts ,i feel i'm kind of off post with this now...
    Yeah, you are starting to go offpost but we'll allow it

    I am hoping that when you take the EGR valve off you will see it coated in crud. From the symptoms you now have it does sound very much like a clogged EGR. Hopefully it won't need a new one. Just make sure when you put it back together that you make sure the intercooler hose is properly attached. Mine wasn't and pushed the hose off which damaged the end. I need a new one and don't know how much it'll cost yet.
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    Hexagonal Shaft Rounded - and Audi would have us believe it's not a widespread issue?

    2007 56 plated Audi A6 2.0TDI S-Line with 74k miles succumbs to the effects of a rounded hexagonal shaft!

    Having purchased my very own piece of 'vorsprung durch technik' in November 2010, serviced it per my warranty requirements in May, including a replacement cam-belt, and driven barely 8k miles since acquiring it, I encountered the dreaded red oil pressure warning light whilst driving at full speed in the fast lane of the M4 on 30th November.

    Recovered and taken to a local reputable garage, it was soon diagnosed that, like so many fellow sufferers, the hegagonal shaft had rounded over time to the point that it had totally failed. My warranty company undertook an independent engineer's report and quoted 'wear and tear' as the basis for them to reject my warranty claim. The same report alluded to the fact that this is, as is so clearly the case, a known design fault issue - so much so that it is impossible or certainly impracticle and arguably inadviseable to attempt to fix or replace the defunct shaft or the resulting damaged drive aperture because VAG changed the design of the pump such that failed components simply can not be ordered for my oil pump, leaving me with no choice than to have to order a new oil pump and furthermore I have to pay for a new sump to accommodate the re-designed and differently shaped oil pump.

    With the prospect of a minimum £1500-2000 repair bill (and heaven knows if this has caused another shed load of financial pain to the turbo), I trained my efforts towards Audi. Having copied and pasted the content of the independent engineer's report to an initial customer services email, I received a call but was essentially advised that because I had not purchased the car from an approved Audi centre and had not serviced it in May via an approved Audi Centre (highly reputable though my chosen garage is) that I lacked the 'browny points' for them to consider a 'goodwill gesture'. I was also advised that there is NOT a known issue with the 2.0TDI engine oil pumps. He clearly has not taken the time to read the countless threads! I have now directed a sternly worded letter to the newly appointed UK director who takes up his position in the new year. I trust he will acknowledge that this is boderline endemic.

    In the meantime, a month on, and the replacement oil pump is on back order awaiting arrival from Germany. I am at least blessed that the garage have allowed me the ongoing use of theit 144k miles Vectra courtesy car (now there's an effective oil pump!).

    Who'd have thought that a standard enquiry when contemplating my purchase should have been 'Has the 'time-bomb' of an oil pump been replaced' Audi clearly have not seen fit to recall models and in truth it may not be so very widespread as to justify a recall but it surely warrants someone in authority sitting up and taking ownership and agreeing to at least share the financial hardship their poorly designed oil pump has bestowed upon me and so many like me. I'll be sure to keep you all apraised of my story as it further unfolds.

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    Hi Performer.

    Sorry to here about your car. May i ask is your 2007 56 plate the old chain driven system, i thought they where only seen on 2005 and early 2006 plate. Maybe this is different for the A6. I have a late 56 plate A4 and assumed it was gear driven. I know this doesnt stop the hex shaft issue but it is one less thing to worry about.

    cheers

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    Reading performer post it's just the shaft that has rounded, but looks like it's also dammaged the oil pump most likley due to the play in the shaft. Also just because a car is a 56 plate does not meen it's guaranteed it has any up rated parts and could even be on the chain system, not every car is built to order and it could be hanging around for months in places like these.


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    Hello Performer and welcome to the defective oil pump/balance shaft assembly club.
    My own vehicle has now been repaired and covered nearly a thousand miles since I had the oil pump/balance shaft replaced, new sump fitted AND had new bearing shells fitted etc etc.That said I am now in the throws of trying to recover some the monies associated with the repair. Like you I have just written to the new CEO of Audi Uk although whether he will actually read it ( I suspect a PA of sorts will filter his mail) remains to be seen?
    I am now awaiting a response to ascertain if a legal challenge through the small claims court process will be necessary or indeed viable as I am sure others reading this may already have mounted such a claim , any comments on this from any reader are most welcome ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by B5NUT View Post
    Reading performer post it's just the shaft that has rounded, but looks like it's also dammaged the oil pump most likley due to the play in the shaft. Also just because a car is a 56 plate does not meen it's guaranteed it has any up rated parts and could even be on the chain system, not every car is built to order and it could be hanging around for months in places like these.
    Hi B5nut,

    cheers for the insight, would an engine code be more accurate, is that is a better indication of build date? Mines is a BRD engine code

    reguards

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    Yer BRD is gear driven, most 2006/7 will be gear driven, but I bet a few BLB engine have trickled into these years!

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    I know this is off thread now but as it all started via this post and Wrath has given me my blessing (!) just thought i would give an update with my heating/vibration issues.I will search for the relevant postings and add to them,with some pics of the EGR/shudder valve as i removed them,coz they were,in my opinion,pretty well layered.

    Well after taking time and a can and a half of Wynns special,they are looking a darn sight cleaner than when they were removed.I need to take it all off again though,the inlet manifold is hanging and,being bank holiday and having no gasket...Anyways the upshot is this;

    The shudder at idle has been virtually eliminated,i would say a 75% improvement...

    The 'kangaroo' effect at 2000/2200 rpm in 2nd,so far,seems to have dissappeared...


    Re the heating,i had fun,managed to turn the drain tap but could not get the damn thing to pull out,couldn't seem to get any pipes to seperate even after lifting up the clips,it's all plastic so i am nervous of breakages...So i just seperated the system at the stat. Eased the bolts off just enough to control the coolant into a bucket...still didn't re-use it though!

    Now i know why it had been advised to get genuine statcoz the one i got was ****e fit,and the new seal was too smallbut i soldiered on and botched it...

    Result - fired up with cap off,left idle whilst i cleaned up,squeezed hoses every so often,topped up coolant as it dropped,after a bit the guage started moving above 60 C...

    Whipped it around town,got to 90C so next stop the bypass and all was good....The original stat had an internal rubber ring which had seen better days.The replacement didn't have this ring. So all in all, for a BLB 2.0Tdi owner a fairly good day...can it last...

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    Back ON topic,ish...Chap nearby has a 55 plate A4 2.0Tdi...We have been chatting to a degree re the cars...Anyhow he pops round earlier knowing i am around as the A4 is on ramps,bonnet up...to tell me his has gone wrong.He openly admits he knows very little about cars. He asks me my latest,3 hours later...

    His car yesterday lost power,gone into limp mode,emmission light on the dash.Said it had been 'missing,jumpy etc' prior to the light.He has booked it into the same dealership that told me my turbo was f$$$$$d. Told him about my EGR,said worth cleaning that up first.He didn't know the engine code,so we popped in to have a look...i just ruined their evening it is a BLB with no record of shaft change...think it is on 103000 ish k...i advised them to get shot of it now...I had to tell them,didn't i...... Is there any way they can check what pump they have?I have read so much in the last two month i can't remember. First regd Jan 06...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpyman View Post
    didn't know the engine code,so we popped in to have a look...i just ruined their evening it is a BLB with no record of shaft change...think it is on 103000 ish k...i advised them to get shot of it now...I had to tell them,didn't i...... Is there any way they can check what pump they have?I have read so much in the last two month i can't remember. First regd Jan 06...
    Doesn't sound like the balancer shaft has failed, likely the EGR is duff. Would be good to get VCDS on it. Everytime I see a 2.0TDI driver, I always wonder whether to say anything....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpyman View Post
    So all in all, for a BLB 2.0Tdi owner a fairly good day...can it last...
    Yay! I knew having my fingers crossed would work. So how much are you going to give me for that top tip
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    You would be worthy of a decent drink if only

    a) i wasn't miles away from humanity

    b) i have been/will be spending every spare penny on the A4 (after the ex wife and the Government)

    You will just have to settle for instead. I am married,to a female,in case anyone is wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpyman View Post
    You would be worthy of a decent drink if only

    a) i wasn't miles away from humanity

    b) i have been/will be spending every spare penny on the A4 (after the ex wife and the Government)

    You will just have to settle for instead. I am married,to a female,in case anyone is wondering.
    Go on then, an electronic kiss will do just fine

    Hope the car is still behaving.
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    Car is going much better thanks,we are trying hard at the minute not to actually enjoy having it...if that makes sense!

    My neighbours motor,out of interest,was today diagnosed new EGR required and TWO HEATER PLUGS...combined cost around £800,+ the £100 he paid today for diagnosis.The EGR i would def agree on but the plugs? The car starts up easily. He told them not to bother. I'm going to give him a hand tommorrow and whip it off and clean it out as a starter.He has been told of an ex-Audi guy that has set up on his own in our area so he may give him a shout if the clean up is unsuccessful.He cant be any dearer than that shower.
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    And over on the facebook side of things,we have an entry from PaulB7 stating that those of us that have had our 'ticking timebomb' replaced should receive a TWO YEAR UNLIMITED MILEAGE warranty....he did from Teeside Audi...Anyone else know anything regarding this ?????
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    Hi everyone! thanks for a great forum, it took me 2 days to read all 12 pages

    mu Audi A6 2005 2.0 TDI with Engine code BLB got the same problem as most - oil pump chain, tentioners.

    at first I had a strange sinusuidal pulsing noise while driwing with cold engine, but after a 2 months later the noise became present at all times while engien is running, and extremly scary rattle, and metal-metal noise while engine is cold. so went to Audi, they test drived, and lisened to the engine - conludion: oil pump/chane.

    since here audi in Norway prices for labor are quite sick, desided to fix the car in non authorised garage(by one friend i know).

    ordered a new oil pump "kit" with rollers, sump etc (not sure yet of all the parts, but I hope it will be a full sett).
    hade to wait 3 weks to get the oil pump.

    is it somethwere a procedure( step by step), on how the oil pump must be changed(from chain driven, to rollers)

    what about balancing shaft? is it a shaft which is in the oil pump? read on one post it shoild be "adjusted" with the engine... need advice here

    is it just about to swap the oilpump/rollers, or I should do something with new oil pump/ balancing shaft, before fitting it to the car?

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    Hi all, i'm about to change mine at 140k miles, I confirmed with the original dealer/servicer that the job was never done. I was wondering if anybody noticed a minor power choking/loss in first and secong gear before this pump went. Happens from stop when you put the foot down, its just a minor blip then runs on fine?

    Cheers

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    i found this while searching for videos on youtube

    Oil pump and balance shaft module failure on 2.0L VW and Audi TDI engines it is an interesting read and seems to outline the procedure

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpyman View Post
    And over on the facebook side of things,we have an entry from PaulB7 stating that those of us that have had our 'ticking timebomb' replaced should receive a TWO YEAR UNLIMITED MILEAGE warranty....he did from Teeside Audi...Anyone else know anything regarding this ?????

    Not just on the oil pump /balance shaft unit either, I had my AC compressor replaced two years back by the same Audi delaer and I have a two year written warranty for this repair as well. I can't see it just being applicable to the NE and it must surely be a Nationwide thing applicable to all Audi repair work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forpaulius View Post
    Hi everyone! thanks for a great forum, it took me 2 days to read all 12 pages

    mu Audi A6 2005 2.0 TDI with Engine code BLB got the same problem as most - oil pump chain, tentioners.

    at first I had a strange sinusuidal pulsing noise while driwing with cold engine, but after a 2 months later the noise became present at all times while engien is running, and extremly scary rattle, and metal-metal noise while engine is cold. so went to Audi, they test drived, and lisened to the engine - conludion: oil pump/chane.

    since here audi in Norway prices for labor are quite sick, desided to fix the car in non authorised garage(by one friend i know).

    ordered a new oil pump "kit" with rollers, sump etc (not sure yet of all the parts, but I hope it will be a full sett).
    hade to wait 3 weks to get the oil pump.

    is it somethwere a procedure( step by step), on how the oil pump must be changed(from chain driven, to rollers)

    what about balancing shaft? is it a shaft which is in the oil pump? read on one post it shoild be "adjusted" with the engine... need advice here

    is it just about to swap the oilpump/rollers, or I should do something with new oil pump/ balancing shaft, before fitting it to the car?
    Whatever you do, DO NOT DRIVE THAT CAR until the engine has been inspected and repaired or you could find yourself needing a replacement engine and turbo. I believe Audi have released to their dealers an Audi Technical Bulletin on how to fit the replacement parts and it is a copy of this that you ideally need.
    Perhaps someone on here has one to share ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B7 View Post
    Not just on the oil pump /balance shaft unit either, I had my AC compressor replaced two years back by the same Audi delaer and I have a two year written warranty for this repair as well. I can't see it just being applicable to the NE and it must surely be a Nationwide thing applicable to all Audi repair work?


    I have just Googled Audi Repair Warranties and found this ;
    Replacement parts warranty
    All Audi Original replacement parts carry a warranty for a period of two-years/unlimited mileage from the date of purchase.Items with warranties in excess of two years will be advised to you at the time of purchase. The two-year warranty does not applyto parts fi tted under the terms of the vehicle warranty, which are warranted for the remaining period of the vehicle warranty.
    The Wear and Tear and Service Adjustment policies applicable to new vehicles also apply to Parts Warr




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    Guy's having considered a swap from a B6 1.8t to a 57 plate 140 tdi that now sits on my drive............... should i be worried its only done 51k and full history

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    Worried A4 owner

    Guys,

    Just came across this forum and have to say im shocked about what I read..I brought Audi assuming quality would not be a problem!!!

    Anyhow I own a 2006 Audi A4 2.0 TDI , It has a BRE engine code , currently only has 36K miles on it....

    I have looked through the previous owners documentation and there is a letter from the Audi dealers the car was purchased from -

    Letter is dated August 2009 - roughly about ' continous quality monitoring, risk that the bearing clearance of one of the drive gears on the blalance shaft assembly can become reduce due to plastic deformation of the hub' it goes on ' For safety reasons it is necessary to check the drive gear in your vehicle and that this will be carried out free of charge'

    I assume my car was checked therefore and if needed any modifications done by the Audi dealers ? Does this mean I am in the clear and can drive in peace?

    I will be bringing it for a cambelt change in next few weeks, so I can quiz them more, but should I be asking them to check anything else?

    Thanks for any advice, my knowledge of cars is very limited so please be patient!!

    Based in Ireland

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    Very convenient! Yes, when it goes in for cambelt and water pump change, get them to take the sump off and check the status of all the balancer bits. The fact you have it in writing suggests there may have previously been a problem and it would be the best opportunity to check it seeing as the front of the car has to come off to do either.
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    OK should I just show the service guys the letter I found from 2009 and tell them to check everything again(sump + balancer) ? Ive already been quoted €600 for service + cambelt change , will this cost me much more to check ?

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    They state they will do it free of charge in your letter so don't pay anymore. Ask for a photo as well so you know it's been checked. Any bother and reference the escalating number of people having balancer shaft problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B7 View Post
    Hello Performer and welcome to the defective oil pump/balance shaft assembly club.
    My own vehicle has now been repaired and covered nearly a thousand miles since I had the oil pump/balance shaft replaced, new sump fitted AND had new bearing shells fitted etc etc.That said I am now in the throws of trying to recover some the monies associated with the repair. Like you I have just written to the new CEO of Audi Uk although whether he will actually read it ( I suspect a PA of sorts will filter his mail) remains to be seen?
    I am now awaiting a response to ascertain if a legal challenge through the small claims court process will be necessary or indeed viable as I am sure others reading this may already have mounted such a claim , any comments on this from any reader are most welcome ?



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    Today I had a call from some young lady purporting to be in the employment of The New Audi UK CEO as one of his PA's (probably has his own private army of young ladies with this job description)
    She very kindly informed me there would be no recompense for me by Audi for my defective oil pump/balance shaft assembly and that should any challenge be mounted by myself this would be futile as it has all been tried before ( or something such similar). So I ask again, has anyone mounted a small cl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B7 View Post
    Today I had a call from some young lady purporting to be in the employment of The New Audi UK CEO as one of his PA's (probably has his own private army of young ladies with this job description)
    She very kindly informed me there would be no recompense for me by Audi for my defective oil pump/balance shaft assembly and that should any challenge be mounted by myself this would be futile as it has all been tried before ( or something such similar). So I ask again, has anyone mounted a small cl
    That should have read has anyone mounted a small claims court action on this matter against Audi Uk and if so would you like to share with us (particularly me !) what the outcome was , am I wasting my time and money if I pursue one ?

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    I've always owned BM's before but after my 325ci sport was written off by a blumming Peugeot driver I decided on a A4 Avant S-Line Secial Edition with the 2.0tdi 170 engine. I wasn't grey haired before, but I am now. After only three days of ownership the car went into limp mode with suspected boost pressure sensor failure. This replaced I thought my problems were over, ... Limp mode again and after an Audi diagnosis the two N95 sensors and a new O/S intercooler were fitted. It ran fine for a couple of months until the day before new years eve when it just stopped and wouldn't re-start. (just what you need after the night shift from hell) recovered to my work then towed to the nearby VAG Specialist who diagnosed injector failure. It's now with Gilders Audi in Sheffield who say if it's the injectors they'll be replaced by Audi but after reading these posts about the oil pump issues will I ever have any peace?? Regards & Happy New Year ... Graham

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    Just a follow up to my post yesterday, I got my car back from Gilders of Sheffield this lunchtime, they fitted 4 new injectors FOC even though it's a 56 plate car with 107k miles. I asked about the oil pump and they told me my car was fitted with a pulley system rather than the chain or geared arrangement ... Don't know if these are more reliable or not but at the moment there's loads of grunt and it sits at the traffic lights without misfiring ... Well done Gilders :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 121graham View Post
    Just a follow up to my post yesterday, I got my car back from Gilders of Sheffield this lunchtime, they fitted 4 new injectors FOC even though it's a 56 plate car with 107k miles. I asked about the oil pump and they told me my car was fitted with a pulley system rather than the chain or geared arrangement ... Don't know if these are more reliable or not but at the moment there's loads of grunt and it sits at the traffic lights without misfiring ... Well done Gilders :-)
    The Pulley system is another way of saying its a Gear driven balance shaft/oil pump assembly.i.e you are stiil at risk of the hex drive to the oil pump rounding off and subsequent failure, particularly as the engine mileage increases, then again you may be lucky and nothing will happen , who cares anyhow, certainly NOT Audi Uk .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B7 View Post
    The Pulley system is another way of saying its a Gear driven balance shaft/oil pump assembly.i.e you are stiil at risk of the hex drive to the oil pump rounding off and subsequent failure, particularly as the engine mileage increases, then again you may be lucky and nothing will happen , who cares anyhow, certainly NOT Audi Uk .
    The very day - I repeat the very day- that Paul B7 got his telephone reply from the office of Martin Sander, I also received a call in response to my stern letter. Not stern enough evidently and there is no such thing as goodwill unless I am minded to cancel my order with my independent garage and divert the work afresh to Cardiff Audi (at £60+ per houe more) and even then VAG indicate that any goodwill would be at the sole discretioin of the dealer and not in someway subsidised by them. Anyway, I will not let this go and will become the proverbial 'screamer'. My garage placed an order for the replacement pump on December 8th and I am 3rd in line behind a SEPTEMBER (!!!!!)order and a November order and the delivery date is 'unknown'. Absolute class. Not only do I have a never ending wait on my hand but a costly bill and VAG adamant there is not endemic problem. In my considered opinion, and I'm not mechanically minded, but there is wider problem brewing on the horizon as more 2006-2007 2.0 Tdi models (and this could logically apply to VW Passats as well as A4s and A6s, etc) reach mid to late mileage. Menawhile VAG are clearly happy to turn their back on a a potentially large pool of otherwise repeat Audi drivers who will doubtless be inclined to give any VAG vehicle, or certainly any of a 2.0TDi disposition" a wide berth. It is an absolute false economy as these cars clearly lack the very reliability for which the prices paid should ensure. My disgust knows no bounds!!!!
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    Alhambra oil pump issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrath View Post
    The problem is that Audi have sold hundreds of thousands of these cars, all you can get off the forums is around 50. VOSA have not shown any interest so far as they don't classify it as a safety issue. Noone has had a reply from Watchdog as yet. There are a couple of cases of Audi giving goodwill gestures but these are very few and the car has to have a FSH and be in warranty.

    And if you think its only TDIs with the problem....it isn't...I had an email a while ago from someone with a petrol engine and the car seized on the motorway! Also worth noting that a BLB engine went sour after only 43,000 miles.

    The other problem is, if you get your car fixed at an Audi garage then it gets logged onto Audi UK's system and they have to report clusters of faults back to the factory. However, if you get a dealer to investigate and quote but go elsewhere for eat the work, Audi UK don't get notified.

    It's a crappy problem, just amazed I haven't heard the same issue with A3 or Seat owners. They have the same 2.0 TDI although it's placed differently to ours.
    I have the same problem with Seat Alhambras. I run a taxi firm and own 3 of these cars. The hex drive to the oil pump has failed several times resulting in the turbo as the first thing to go. Again I have been waiting up to 6 weeks for the part. At nearly £900, I'm not best pleased. Seat uk don't want to know unless the main dealer has serviced the car.
    This is an engine defect and no one will recognise this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B7 View Post
    Today I had a call from some young lady purporting to be in the employment of The New Audi UK CEO as one of his PA's (probably has his own private army of young ladies with this job description)
    She very kindly informed me there would be no recompense for me by Audi for my defective oil pump/balance shaft assembly and that should any challenge be mounted by myself this would be futile as it has all been tried before ( or something such similar). So I ask again, has anyone mounted a small cl
    Hi Paul B7. Need I enquire as to whether your woes with the oil pump naturally entailed you having to renew the turbo? I have been 'assured' that in al likelihood, the first major part to fail as soon as the oil pump goes is the turbo and that's another grand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Performer View Post
    Hi Paul B7. Need I enquire as to whether your woes with the oil pump naturally entailed you having to renew the turbo? I have been 'assured' that in al likelihood, the first major part to fail as soon as the oil pump goes is the turbo and that's another grand!

    Hello Peformer and I am sorry to hear of your woes.
    Your information re the Turbo needing replacing is largely true and yes this may well incur additional costs to the tune of circa £1000.
    That said I caught mine before the chain drive ( BLB engine ) failed and hence when my car was in for repair I still had oil pressure just a rattling chain drive so my turbo survived.
    Good luck with the parts delivery,mine took five weeks and I have corresponded with some individuals who had waits up eight weeks.
    I can't believe the VAG supply chain is so inefficient and suspect this is because of the numbers of engines needing repair ?


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