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    Considering changing to an S4

    Hi all, I am considering swapping my remapped 2.0tfsi quattro for an S4, my car still makes me smile when I give it some but I still fancy that V8.... So all you S4 owners out there, if I buy a B7 what is the real world MPG and is it suitable as a daily driver?? also is mileage an issue, I have seem some nice low mileage examples but who knows it that's real!

    Thanks, Phil

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    I'm in the same boat! Would love the v8 cheaper for me to insure but running costs are double :/

    id say the mileage was right as there so costly to run fuel wise.

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    Phil
    I had same concerns and looked at a few MPG threads on RS246/SRS when I was looking for a car and feedback varied greatly depending on age, mileage, fuel, peoples perception of driving normally/hard etc.. So the following is my experience only..
    I could get late 20's/30 mpg driving like a fanny but in reality 18-22 driving normally and anything from 8 if giving it some shizz!
    I have a Combo van for commuting so not driving it every day.
    Had the car since March and so far no problems, running sweet, 45k on the clock now. Not spent a penny really apart from fuel (touch wood) not including mods.
    Really like the car, sounds amazing especially with the Milltek on it and fairly quick for a big car (Avant).

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    Hi Phil,

    I run my s4 avant as a daily driver and i love it. theyre not as fast as i would hope from a 4.2 V8 but no slouch.
    Mine has 106k on the clock and it still runs perfect.
    I wouldnt be too bothered about milage so long as its been looked after.

    And stay away from anything thats been on the longlife service plan

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    If you did your sums and could afford the additional insurance and of course fuel....f*ck it!... no brainer for me! I would seriously consider it if I could afford to fuel it up....and the sound alone would bring a smile to your face every time you pulled into the shell garage forecourt. Don't think the running costs wills scare you compared to what you have unless something major blows.....Go for it....and make me jealous ya lucky bugger!

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    Considering changing to an S4

    I have the earlier B6 V8... and it's running at an average of 19.24 mpg

    last tank was 15.68 mpg

    total cost per mile so far is £2.81

    this is over 1,242 miles

    to be fair , i just got it in November, and I've already done some work at MRC, had a service, MOT and new disks and pads..

    going in for a new clutch and flywheel next week too...

    I always spend too much when I buy a new car...in comparison, my S8 I've had for a while:

    avg: 20.03mpg

    last tank: 17.94mpg

    cost per mile: £0.49

    this is over 7,490 miles

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    Considering changing to an S4

    £2.81 per MILE !!!!! Wow you must have very deep pockets !

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    Hi Phil, have had my S4 Cabrio (tiptronic with paddleshift) for a year and a half now, and would say real figures would equate to approx 20-22 mpg. Obviously if you drive it with a bit of enthusiam, the figures reflect that! Have loved every minute of owning it, carried out many a mod, but when purchasing it, did my homework, and although paid top dollar for it, got what I paid for! An immaculate, one owner, low mileage example with every concievable extra. Was toying with changing it, so pm me if your interested, or want to know anymore about ownership of the V8 beast!
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    Re: Considering changing to an S4

    I had my b7 s4 avant for 5 years and would agree with the 20-23 mpg real world and high 20s on a granny run. Great car but I got fed up with subsidising work for all the business miles so chopped it in at 112k miles for an a4 3.0 tdi quattro sline (b8)with a remap. Similar sort of performance but much better economy! I do miss the V8 though!

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    Thanks guys, I dont think the MPG is that bad if you can get 20/22 i only get 26/28 on my work run now. I have found a 55 plate with 47k miles that looks sweet, so I guess a visit to it is on the cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilMill63 View Post
    Thanks guys, I dont think the MPG is that bad if you can get 20/22 i only get 26/28 on my work run now. I have found a 55 plate with 47k miles that looks sweet, so I guess a visit to it is on the cards.
    55 plate = cheaper road tax = result!
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    Considering changing to an S4

    Quote Originally Posted by ASC View Post
    55 plate = cheaper road tax = result!
    Second that
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    I had thought that too! plus the wheels on the 07's that I have seen are awful.....

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    my 13 mile trip to work is all quiet twisty b roads, and i get 13mpg lol!

    personal best is 27.1mpg stuck on the M1 in roadworks with the c/control on at 50mph.

    so averages about 17/18 i guess

    oh and 7 at castle combe - whoop whoop

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    Ok so Im off to look at this S4 at the weekend, what should I check for? Is the Tiptronic box ok?? are there known problems with the box??? Do all S4's have Bose?

    Cheers, Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilMill63 View Post
    Ok so Im off to look at this S4 at the weekend, what should I check for? Is the Tiptronic box ok?? are there known problems with the box??? Do all S4's have Bose?

    Cheers, Phil
    Nope - the B7 S4s came with the Audi Concert Radio as standard... the upgrade options were £480 for the Bose speakers, and £320 for the 6CD auto-changer in the govebox.

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    OK i was at the LIghts this evening !
    Slow lane was a A5 TDI 3.0 and i was in the Fast lane . !

    From tick over i smoked him, he hit turbo Lag and i was off the post faster .

    If you want Power and torque from any gear then its the V8 for you, MPG is mentlal very low, so you cant use this as a everyday car ! it just wont add up. The V8 is simply stunning sound track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian1970 View Post
    OK i was at the LIghts this evening !
    Slow lane was a A5 TDI 3.0 and i was in the Fast lane . !

    From tick over i smoked him, he hit turbo Lag and i was off the post faster .

    If you want Power and torque from any gear then its the V8 for you, MPG is mentlal very low, so you cant use this as a everyday car ! it just wont add up. The V8 is simply stunning sound track.
    eh? I've used mine pretty much every day for over 2 years.. and i do about 18k a year!

    cant get enough of it lol!

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    Excuse my ignorance but why is a 55 plate and or a S4 cheaper on road tax?

    I have an 07 A4 B7 myself and been thinking about the S4 as well!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by psd99 View Post
    Excuse my ignorance but why is a 55 plate and or a S4 cheaper on road tax?

    I have an 07 A4 B7 myself and been thinking about the S4 as well!!!
    Because in march 2006 big guzzlers doubled in road tax, so anything pre March 2006 is the cheaper band.. I missed out by a month or 2!
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    cool thanks!

    how much road tax for a 07 plate s4 then?

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    £460!!!!!!!!
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    crikey lol think my a4 is under £300
    per year can't remember exactly how much though

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    I had an A4 2.0TDI 170 Spec Ed before with DPF and I'm pretty sure road tax was like £150.. Was a fair kick in the nuts when I got S4....So freekin worth it though!
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    oh yes I can imagine the power on the s4 is like wow factor for sure

    but what about the rs4? why not get that instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASC View Post
    Because in march 2006 big guzzlers doubled in road tax, so anything pre March 2006 is the cheaper band.. I missed out by a month or 2!
    From DVLA... *Band K includes cars that have a CO2 emission figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006.

    My car was first reg'd on 12th June 06

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    Quote Originally Posted by psd99 View Post
    oh yes I can imagine the power on the s4 is like wow factor for sure

    but what about the rs4? why not get that instead?

    Lots of reasons... I did look into it. I would love one but I simply didn't have a spare 20 odd grand in the bank at the time.
    Then there's the cost of spare parts which are more expensive, also no DRC suspension problems with S4, nor carbon build up problems bla bla bla... If I had the cash I wouldn't worry about all these things but I don't .
    Also.. 2 kids at nursery and a fair mortgage doesn't help!
    The S4 was the sensible buy for me at the time.. still happy with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g00se View Post
    From DVLA... *Band K includes cars that have a CO2 emission figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006.

    My car was first reg'd on 12th June 06

    goose
    Yup, same here, mine registered around about then too.. In fact my tax is out this month, didn't think that through with Xmas did I??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASC View Post
    Lots of reasons... I did look into it. I would love one but I simply didn't have a spare 20 odd grand in the bank at the time.
    Then there's the cost of spare parts which are more expensive, also no DRC suspension problems with S4, nor carbon build up problems bla bla bla... If I had the cash I wouldn't worry about all these things but I don't .
    Also.. 2 kids at nursery and a fair mortgage doesn't help!
    The S4 was the sensible buy for me at the time.. still happy with it.

    good reasons there

    yes rs4 is expensive it would be good to learn the mpg for both cars and compare the difference

    my mate reckons it costs him £1 per mile or per 2 miles to run his rs4
    that car flys

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    Considering changing to an S4

    Latest tank was giving me 13.5 mpg I really need to a) slow down and b) use high gears!

    :lol:

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    Wow, and I was recovering from the change between 1.8T and 2.0T which brought me down to 28-30mpg.

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    a wise man once said - the RS4 is mildly better on fuel than the S4 due to the FSI.. that said, the same man said buying a V8 and not expecting shi*ty MPG would be like buying a boat and not expecting to get it wet!

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    Considering changing to an S4

    Yip... if you worry about MPG, stay away from big engines... simple really... :lol:

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    Considering changing to an S4

    A pound a mile ! Christ I fly to Aberdeen from Manchester on a regular basis and it is 360 miles and costs 360 quid return ! You guys must be loaded to run these things !

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    Fellow S4 owners will be pleased to know, its now £475 per year to tax!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lgooch View Post
    A pound a mile ! Christ I fly to Aberdeen from Manchester on a regular basis and it is 360 miles and costs 360 quid return ! You guys must be loaded to run these things !
    M'eh can't take the money with you....and after this weeks new clutch and flywheel, I'm now £3.62 per mile!! :lol:




    that's an app called road trip before anyone asks!

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    i will most certainly NOT be downloading that app ^^^^^

    jebus h christ - those kind of stats i really dont want to know lol

    goose goes off fingers in ears singing la la la, im not listening....
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    Considering changing to an S4

    Yeah, it's a bit of an eye opener... I know people with it that 'cheat' by not putting some costs on... I mean what's the point in that?!! :lol:

    But it's good for a laugh if nothing else... I really couldn't care what the cars cost me, I'm just an accountant so "need" to know! OCD and all that... :wall::wall:

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