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    Oil change in 5 speed Tiptronic box

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    Has anybody in Hampshire or the surrounding counties had the oil and filter changed in their Tiptronic gearbox (as usually fitted to quattro's) and how much did it cost? (I know its about 150 in oil and parts alone). I would like to find somewhere that has done it before and knows what they are doing as the filling procedure is fairly critical. Even the local stealer didn't inspire confidence when they initially suggested its a sealed unit and it can't be done!

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    My advice don't do it, I had a 3.0tdi 2004 A6, got the oil and filter changed from one of the largest auto gearbox specialists in Brum, and 2 months later the gearbox failed, 65k miles the car had done, 2100 to get the gearbox reconditioned.

    Leave these things alone, only the multitronic gearbox needs an oil change, not the one in a quattro.

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    I just had the same problem with my 5 speed tip in my S6. I got a local mechanic to change the gearbox oil as the car was juddering in 3rd gear. two weeks later it got worse. Its in at the minute getting the box rebuilt. 1840...

    info on changing the oil can be found here. http://www.audipages.com/Tech_Articl...servicing.html

    How many miles are on your box? some people say if there's nothing wrong, don't change it. If you do there is the possibilty or debris getting loosened when changing the oil and clooging an oil feed and causing the box to fail..


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    gear box service

    Hi guys this is very interesting, I have the 2.7T on 02 plate (triptronic). I was planning to get the gear box serviced, as it is recommended on the audi service book itself. So shall I not get this done then?

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    Hi guys this is very interesting, I have the 2.7T on 02 plate (triptronic). I was planning to get the gear box serviced, as it is recommended on the audi service book itself. So shall I not get this done then? 10 Hours Ago 20:55
    Is your 2.7T definately tiptronic? I believe later models had the multitronic gearbox, which absolutely must have the oil changed every 40,000 miles. I've been researching this all week & Audi say the tiptronic 'box is filled for life & there is no need to change the oil. Having checked out every website I can find on this, there is one thing none of them either tell you or make entirely clear which is that the capacity of the whole system (incl. all the pipework & cooler) is 9 litres & if the 'box is drained & the oil pan removed to replace the strainer, only 2.6 - 3.0 litres is removed (source: Elsawin, the official Audi workshop info.) so to me it seems almost pointless in mixing a small amount of expensive new oil with a lot of old oil. Note also that the strainer is exactly that - a strainer - not a filter, so the likelihood of it
    being blocked is slim & there are a number of magnets inside the oil pan to collect metallic debris. I also rang a number of Auto. Transmission specialists & the majority said don't do it unless it looks really bad (drain a little out to check the state of it). My car is a 2.8 & has just turned up 88,000 miles & I was thinking of changing the oil on the basis of preventative maintenance but for these reasons I have decided not to do it.
    P.S The figures above apply to my gearbox, which is 5 speed tiptronic, code DEX 01V. I Don't know if the same figures apply to 'boxes with different codes.

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    I should just add that the procedure for refilling the 'box & getting the level correct is quite involved & lengthy, so unless you are certain the mechanic or whoever knows exactly what they are doing, I'd steer clear.

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    confused

    Right I might be wrong here. So what is the differnce between the triptronic and the multitronic? My one has the gear shift on the steering wheel aswell if that makes any difference???


    Also I probably would let the stealers do the work now hearing all this.

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    The two 'boxes are very different. Tiptronic is a good old fashioned auto 'box with torque converter. Porsche added the manual override feature to it & then licensed it to the rest of the world. The Multitronic is a CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) which, put very basically, consists of two pulleys - a driver & a driven - & a segmented steel chain. As one pulley effectively increases in diameter the other decreases & vice versa. Both 'boxes can have change buttons on the steering wheel.
    Audi actually state the oil for the Tiptronic is a 'lifetime fill' - quite what a lifetime is I don't know... but I believe they are clear about oil changes for the Multitronic which are, from what I read, imperative.
    Check on your gearbox code on the label which is normally in the spare wheel well & in the service history booklet. Your dealer or Audi U.K. will be able to tell you what 'box you have from this.

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    Thanks for that buddy I will have a look tomorrow and let you know.

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    I checked with Audi and got the same thing on our A6. They said it was filled for life.
    My S6 is an auto and it's recommended to change every 80,000 miles. I did it last summer. It was a real pain as access is difficult, there is no fill pipe, so need to pump the oil back in, and you need to vagcom to monitor the gearbox temp to make sure you put the right amount in.
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    my local audi stealers quoted me 180 to do the job on my one! the service guy reckons it is recommended that all auto gearbox need it???

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    As far as i know ONLY the multitronic requires it, as I said my 6 speed quattro tiptorinic had it changed and 2 months later gearbox failed, my friend had a BMW 530d, and also had his auto gearbox oild changed and again a few months later gearbox failed, both incidents cost big . Choice is yours - my advice look in your service book and it does not say it needs changing , then DON'T.

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    So what happens when the seals perish and you have a leak, still needs changing, any oil will deteriate over time, best to get it done, even if at 80k miles...anything mechanical and oil based will perish....just make sure the person doing the job knows his/her stuff!!!!
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