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    Exhaust Help

    I posted a Thread a few weeks ago regarding exhaust systems for S4's.

    I was looking at the milltek option, but fully spec'd (manifold back) will cost near 2k.

    So, I was looking into cheaper options, as I think the milltek is bit overpriced. Now i think im going to get rid of all CATS (I know this is MOT failure, but I have someone who will MOT it), so that will be cheaper, as milltek Sport CATS cost a fortune, plus extra bhp.

    Now the problem is the way to do this.......

    1.) Can I mount 'decat' pipes to a CAT back Milltek?

    2.) Has anyone had a custom system made by someone like these guys

    http://www.mijexhaust.com

    3.) Are the Ebay systems pants? first one is exhaust system, second is manifold

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-A4-S4-2-7...item1c0f88cc30

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-A6-S4-2-7...item27aa3333bb


    I hate to go on, but my head is spinning with what to go for.......

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    I am sure the ebay ones are highly respected on SRS. They are a pretty good fit and sound awesome.

    I will be fitting the tail end of one on my TQS one day when i get around to making a stainless DP to mate to it, probably when someone "upgrades" and sells me theirs used for a steal

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    I dont want to cheap out, but 2 grand is a lot for an exhaust. If I spec'd the ebay with manifold it would even be 1k with fitting. I also like the idea of custom, becuase a lot of them offer lifetime guarantee, so least there is something to fall back on if it breaks, please I could have a different tail pipe to the 'boring' twin. Ebay one doesnt say anythi ng about a guarantee, but then thats why there cheaper I guess. My CATS have started to rattle, so I thought I might as well just change the whole lot while its in, then engine will only need dropping once.
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    the XS power systems and downpipes are alright, but i would leave the manifolds well alone.

    Its probably an engine out job to change them anyway.

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    Probably best I leave them, specially if im debating a couple of K04 Hybrids anyway ;o)........
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    I would just make sure you use the facelift ex manis as the prefacelift ones tend to break up inside and take out the EGT sensors, decatted Piggies, some sports cats and an ebay or custom system

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    Mine is a facelift model anyway. Im not having any CATS, so I would like to get the ebay downpipes + Decats (both piggies + CATS) then bolt a milltek on the end of them, or just get custom unit from manifold back, so it all marrys up nicely....
    2000 B5 S4 - MRC Remap - RS2 Sparks - Pipercross Element (dried) + Modified Airbox - Forge Divs - Samco Hose's - KW's dropped 50mm - 18" RONAL R41 in gun metal grey - Black Diamond Combi Disc's + Predator Pads - Brushed Alloy Mirrors - Short Shifter - Full Recaro - Carbon Trim - Bose. More to come, watch this space.......

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    Tbh no cat isnt worth the hassle, yes you might be able to get yourself a dodgy MOT, but you could still be stopped by VOSA and tested at the road side. Sports Cats are only about 100 each.

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    Really? from where? Milltek high-flow cats are 1300!!!

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MILLTEK-SPORT-...item3efc2fc4f9
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    well ye, they're direct fit ones.

    I just mean a generic sport cat. Take a look on ebay.

    I'd do the piggy mod and get the exhaust place to swap the main cats out for a pair of 200cell sport cats, then get your local friendly fabricator to sort the rest of the system

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    Ive just emailed for quote for the full thing (manifold back), Ill let you know the price......
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    Has anyone ever had a spot check on their emissions?

    I have only ever seen them in supermarkets where you volunteer to get your emissions checked. I have had no cat in my car for 6 years.
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    I was spot checked in my old nova, it had no cat fitted, but was a 1990 model anyway so didnt need one. They still tested it though.


    I seriously wouldnt be fitting those manifolds. Stainless pipes like that are prone to cracking, and when its a grands worth of engine pull to rectify WHEN the crack, its just not worth it.

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    Charlie is the single best exhaust fabricator I have ever used...... and his prices are excellent

    I wouldnt mind a group buy for Audi systems

    He is doing Twin 3" downpipes and 3" system for me very soon

    contact me for more info

    info@ktrsport.com (my work one)

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    I think we would be looking at 1100 for the whole lot inc fitting etc

    Sports cats would be extra, circa 200 each iirc
    there is no such thing as bad weather, just the wrong clothes!!

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    3" cat back system on a 1.8tqs would be nice

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    ok can be done. He made me a 3" system on an S3 for me a couple of years back... was really impressive
    there is no such thing as bad weather, just the wrong clothes!!

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    A 3 inch system is very do able. I have a 3 inch Dp and mid section, the only reason i dont have 3 inch through was because i chose to mate it to an OEM S4 system as i "aquired" it cheaply

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    Ebay manis are rubbish,downpipes look nice but piggies do the same job,cat back is good even with no cats the ebay cat back is quiet with centre and rear mufflers intact.
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    Gentleman,

    I had this waiting for me this morning, what do ya think????


    The dual exit cat-back stainless steel exhaust system (mid & rearsection with X-Pipe) you've requested for your Audi S4 will cost 444.99 this is fully inclusive of fuel discount (25), vat & fitting. I've included round tailpipes in the quotation, you can choose an alternative or upgrade (various twin tailpipes etc.) from our extensive range of 40 tailpipes if you wish. The downpipes will cost an additional 280.00 all inclusive. I can offer you high flow sports cats for only 360.00 fitted.


    We carry all the necessary parts needed to build your exhaust system instore, so it should take no longer than 7 - 8 hrs to build & fit the system.
    If you choose to wait with your car, we have a customer lounge with refreshments, SKY TV/DVD & internet access. We're only a few minutes walk from the city centre if you decide to go shopping etc. while we work on your car.


    As your system will be custom built, you can tell us how you would like it sound, anywhere from quiet to full sport. Our most popular choice is a Mid-Sport, this gives the best of both worlds, not intrusive but achieves the sporty sound you want from your car upon applying the throttle.


    View some of the work we have done on your make/model, www.mijperformance.com/exhaust.html - This should give you an idea of our quality of work & also help
    you to decide what type of style & look your after.

    If you do have any further queries with the details I've provided or you would like to go ahead and make a booking, then please call me on 01922 645 646 or reply back by email.


    I look forward to hearing from you.

    Best Regards,

    Jay
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