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    LiquidA4/S4/RS4 centre vent

    Guys, I'm thinking about getting some centre vents for the A4 made up by Steve at SWG motorsport after seing a tidy job done by one of my customers,

    Any interest? Here is the one done by a guy in the netherlands.


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    Interested in that ! Sent an pm as well...
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    Don't think a lot of us can use those

    Aren't they like the Scan-guage that plug into the cars OBDII port? I recall our cars having an earlier version as I tried a Scan-guage and it just wouldn't find the car at all

    Hope I'm wrong about that thohg as I'd love one of those in my A4
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    UK/Euro cars dont have ODB2, its an american standard.

    later (2001>?) Audis will have EOBD2 compliance, but i dont think the B5 has that, or at least most of them wont.

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    Aye, shame as most features do not work on the B5, even the facelifts. BOOOHOOO

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    when i looked on their website last month it had the b5 S4 listed for around 139.99

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    I tried one of these when the maker was over in Edinburgh and it would not work on my car. Was over a year ago though and the maker said it should with a few tweeks of the software which he planned to work on.

    He was a really nice chap.
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    Guys,

    The liquid doesn't use the OBD protocol it uses the prorietary VAG standard known as KW1281, the same as is used by VAG-COM, the liquidA4/S4/RS4 is designed to work with the B5 chassis.

    B5 support was added about a year ago.

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    Jim, what features do work then mate? I know boost won't as we have no MAP sensor, so assuming the power output thingy wont either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzan A4 View Post
    Jim, what features do work then mate? I know boost won't as we have no MAP sensor, so assuming the power output thingy wont either...
    It depends on the engine code, I also have a way of showing a boost estimate for cars without a MAP sensor.

    BHP is calculated from the MAF, I expect this will be available oon alll cars.

    If there is someone around the Fife/Edinburgh/glasgow area we could meet up for a quick test.

    I've been doing a lot of development for the RS4 which is now completed but it would be good to try and A4 too.

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    I could meet up with you around Edinburgh if you would like to test on a car.

    Mine is a 2000 dbc AJL engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupie69uk View Post
    I could meet up with you around Edinburgh if you would like to test on a car.

    Mine is a 2000 dbc AJL engine.
    Cool, I'll be in Edinburgh at about 4.30 on Saturday if your around.

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    Is there any plans for these that would work with n/a engines, v6 etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxmeister View Post
    Is there any plans for these that would work with n/a engines, v6 etc?
    V6 support was added a month or so ago, NA and Turbo, R32, TT V6, RS4 etc

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    I will not be around this Sat but let me know any other times your over here!
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    Excuse my ignorance, guys. But what does this do?

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    Hi, i'm based in glasgow. Would be happy to help in development.

    Car is a P plate 1.8t sport avant (AEB code)
    with the early ECU which can't be flashed (custom code had to send my ecu away for the remap)

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    Very interested here

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    I can offer a 2.8v6 testbed in glasgow if needed? But im workin away and wont back till fri 30th, available after then.

    So do the testing guys get a free unit installed??? (Wink wink)

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    I'm interested too
    Same as soupie's 1.8t dbc ajl so get it it tested on his soon.
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    I would love one of these for my B6 but it's not ment to be right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docurley View Post
    I would love one of these for my B6 but it's not ment to be right now.
    Wots wrong, problems with the car?

    How is the b6 goin, u got a link to the build? Still goin for a b7 conv? Never really seen it yet, but sounds very interesting.

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    I'm interested but...
    Will it show boost on a B5 S4?
    Says boost on the webpage but as above might not work on the B5's

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    Quote Originally Posted by OllyS4 View Post
    I'm interested but...
    Will it show boost on a B5 S4?
    Says boost on the webpage but as above might not work on the B5's
    S4 and RS4 (B5) work no problem, I already have a few customers using the gauge, the picture of the unit at the top if out of an existing customers car.

    If you can see a value in vag-com it will be possible to see it with the liquid gauge so that is a good way to check ahead of time.

    One mod I have made for the S4/RS4 is to allow the user to select the CAT temp rather than the exhaust temp as it was not available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupie69uk View Post
    I will not be around this Sat but let me know any other times your over here!
    Thanks to the offers from the Glasgow guys, but Edinburgh is a bit closer.

    Soupie, just let me know when would be convienient and I will pop over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heymynameismark View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, guys. But what does this do?
    Here is a video showing just a few of the features, the camera battery went flat before I could get through them all but it gives a good idea, the last display in the video is the dyno but its cut short.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGoONTn1Y_w

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    I am free most week nights after half 6 so if any of those suit you let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freegeek View Post
    Thanks to the offers from the Glasgow guys, but Edinburgh is a bit closer.

    Soupie, just let me know when would be convienient and I will pop over.

    no problem, out of curiosity - will this work on the ecu I have,
    like the very early 1.8t's?

    if so, would it loose any functionality due to the apparent limitations of the ecu (not being able to flash the eprom ect)?

    let me know if you have used it on these types and what the outcomes are, if not the offer still stands.

    Would be good to get a look at it in person too, i dont mind coming a spin through (test out the new suspension).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fARQUARE View Post
    no problem, out of curiosity - will this work on the ecu I have,
    like the very early 1.8t's?

    if so, would it loose any functionality due to the apparent limitations of the ecu (not being able to flash the eprom ect)?

    let me know if you have used it on these types and what the outcomes are, if not the offer still stands.

    Would be good to get a look at it in person too, i dont mind coming a spin through (test out the new suspension).
    It will work, but depending on which sensors are missing on your car, some features will be missing.

    Do you gave access to a vag-com cable, if you do you will be able to see what is missing.

    During week days i'm in East Kilbride so it would be easy to do a quick meet up then.

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    yeah, I have a vagcom cable

    can see:

    Gauge Display
    Engine power - ?? maf 0.8 bhp (i can see maf figs)
    Torque - not sure what bank this is in vagcom
    Boost pressure - no map sensor, this is what i'm really interested in
    Cmd pressure - ??
    Mass Air Flow - yes can see this
    Air Fuel Ratio - not sure, never looked
    Air intake temp - yes, can see this
    Exhaust temp - not sure, never looked
    Coolant temp - yes, think this may be off the instruments
    N75 position - not sure, never looked
    Oil temp - yes, sure i have seen this, again think off instruments

    i'm pretty much free after 5 most nights

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    liquid

    does this work on the b5 a4 2.4 V6? cheers

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    What sort of price are we looking at for how many units?

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    Doh to late.

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    OK

    Looks like you would get most info, torque is calculated from MAF and RPM, since there is no MAP sensor the display would show a calculated estimate only.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by fARQUARE View Post
    yeah, I have a vagcom cable

    can see:

    Gauge Display
    Engine power - ?? maf 0.8 bhp (i can see maf figs)
    Torque - not sure what bank this is in vagcom
    Boost pressure - no map sensor, this is what i'm really interested in
    Cmd pressure - ??
    Mass Air Flow - yes can see this
    Air Fuel Ratio - not sure, never looked
    Air intake temp - yes, can see this
    Exhaust temp - not sure, never looked
    Coolant temp - yes, think this may be off the instruments
    N75 position - not sure, never looked
    Oil temp - yes, sure i have seen this, again think off instruments

    i'm pretty much free after 5 most nights

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    Jim,
    I am in Edinburgh also, would be very interested to meet up with you and Soupie for a trial. (99 AJL)
    email me at ed@ersg.com
    evenings would be better for me to.

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    For those of you without a MAP sensor, i use the following formula to calculate boost pressure (I found this on the Ross-Tech web site)

    boost = ((MAF x 54 / RPM) - 1

    the result is a reasonable approximation, the chart below shows a log from my car with the actual boost recorded with vag-com and the calculated value.

    The difference at the start of the trace can in part be attributed to the fact that the MAP sensor is before the throttle plate so does not show any vaccuum, and the blip at the end is when the trottle plate closes and pressure increases before the diverter valve opens. Also the blue trace should be 200prm to the left but excel got beyond me at that point. I was also logging three data blocks on this log which slowed down the sampling, i think with reading a single block at a time the two would meet closely.

    At some point I will do two separate single block logs and try to superimpose them more carefully.

    Last edited by freegeek; 28th October 2009 at 11:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupie69uk View Post
    I am free most week nights after half 6 so if any of those suit you let me know.

    It will probably have to be next week now but I am meeting up with fARQUARE on Friday.

 

 
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