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    pop goes the turbo, Gutted

    hi all

    I have been today to have my stainless done following that blocking up and glowing the turbo and manifold.
    They took me through what i was after and how they would do it and off they went.
    They then came to me 1hr or so later asking if i have had power loss? the bloke who had been working on my car then showed me what he had found in the Cat.
    Didnt take much to see it was my waste gate valve he had in his hand
    The front half of the stainless is all done from dead turbo back {decatted} looks cool{will get some pics on here asap.
    I had to put the other half off due to what was found in the cat, the car was smoking its ass off on tic over and smoky going home.

    What type and were could i get a new turbo quick, i already had plans to remap but now need to sort this asap.

    bit of advise on the turbo would be good at this moment in time.

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    My wastegate flap broke/melted off also on my stock K03. Try picking up a used K03 if you need one asap. Also look into a test pipe. Dont know how strict they are over there about exhaust fumes and whaty not but get rid of that cat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEB A4 View Post
    My wastegate flap broke/melted off also on my stock K03. Try picking up a used K03 if you need one asap. Also look into a test pipe. Dont know how strict they are over there about exhaust fumes and whaty not but get rid of that cat!
    i can sort the test mot issue with no probs and the cat is already gone, had it took off this morning doiing the stainless.

    if i was to go for new would this fit straight on ?

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    don't risk those cheap chinese copy turbos

    various turbo dealers have stock of these turbos

    turbo technics picked mine up 30 mins after I asked them to - amazingly quick, will see what they find

    on selecting a turbo depends what you want?

    stay K03 or go K03s or K04

    the std K03 will remap to 200bhp est

    the K04 will go to 250bhp but you will need intercooler, custom remap and injectors, probably exhaust sorting too
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    i think the turbo technics catalogue quotes 695 for a k03

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    Quote Originally Posted by s4marsh View Post
    i think the turbo technics catalogue quotes 695 for a k03
    my budget would prob push to 300 and i know thats not a lot to start looking for a new turbo with but looking at used as well as new
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraser View Post
    nice one that will come in very handy
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    i'd have to sell limbs to pay for a turbo at the moment...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by s4marsh View Post
    i'd have to sell limbs to pay for a turbo at the moment...lol
    lol im sure i will be ok driving with one arm and i did get a good price for the arm; as long as i dont have to sell the other or a leg as well i will manage lol
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    Speak to Lee Goodall, i'm almost certain hes got a Scroll SP51 that hes selling off his old motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    Speak to Lee Goodall, i'm almost certain hes got a Scroll SP51 that hes selling off his old motor.
    thanks again aragorn,

    i have just bought this as a quick cheapish fix

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

    the car has been off the road 2wk now and just need the car running again then poss look in to newer turbo in the future.
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    i hope the turbo is better than his spelling..fingers crossed for you

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    Thats a Chinese copy, but for 80 it will get the car mobile again.

    I "may" have to source one for the A3 now, boost has gone missing on that now

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    Quote Originally Posted by s4marsh View Post
    i hope the turbo is better than his spelling..fingers crossed for you
    lol you havn't seen the other emails i got off him through out the day took a bit of imagination to work out he was talking about
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    Ye, its most certainly not done 90000 miles, and that rubber hose would never be connected like that on any stock fitment.

    It also looks too shiney, and the triangle that should have the KKK logo looks to be empty.

    Send it back and get onto lee, at least you'll only need to do the job once, rather again in 2 weeks when that selfdestructs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzan A4 View Post
    Thats a Chinese copy, but for 80 it will get the car mobile again.

    I "may" have to source one for the A3 now, boost has gone missing on that now
    hi Mark,
    how can you tell its a Chinese copy?

    i hope you have better luck with the A3 than i have mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    Ye, its most certainly not done 90000 miles, and that rubber hose would never be connected like that on any stock fitment.

    It also looks too shiney, and the triangle that should have the KKK logo looks to be empty.

    Send it back and get onto lee, at least you'll only need to do the job once, rather again in 2 weeks when that selfdestructs.
    i can get it fitted at work for nowt thats not a prob, the bloke did say it has had a new blow off side?

    is the one Lee is selling used,new, recon and would that be same power and bolt on job as well?
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    Lee's is an uprated scroll products turbo, i would imagine somewhere between a k03s and a k04, or perhaps a bit bigger. It would work fine on a stock motor, and give you a nice bit of headroom should you want a remap in the future.

    Hes had it on for a little while, but certainly not anything like interstellar mileage.

    Drop him a PM, he'll be able to give you the exact details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    Lee's is an uprated scroll products turbo, i would imagine somewhere between a k03s and a k04, or perhaps a bit bigger. It would work fine on a stock motor, and give you a nice bit of headroom should you want a remap in the future.

    Hes had it on for a little while, but certainly not anything like interstellar mileage.

    Drop him a PM, he'll be able to give you the exact details.
    great minds think alike, just sent Lee a pm before reading this, i will see if he still has it and what are the details of it and most important "how much at this moment in time"
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    Yeh that turbo is a fake K03 no KKK sign in the triangle

    My blue tag is missing where I had my sroll conversion done and yes this is a K04 but the markings are all the same and that turbo is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docurley View Post
    Yeh that turbo is a fake K03 no KKK sign in the triangle

    My blue tag is missing where I had my sroll conversion done and yes this is a K04 but the markings are all the same and that turbo is not.

    Thanks for the info,i wasnt sure how to tell if they are fake turbo's or not but that sorts that problem for future ref.
    I just wanted a turbo as cheap as poss just to get the car back on the road to be honest and hopfully it will do the job till i can sort something better out.
    fingers crossed it works better than mine does at the moment, then at least im mobile again because its realy p***ing me off now walking past my car to get it the Mrs 1.4 pug 306.
    i will let you know how i get on and when it is back on ebay for sale lol.
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    The waste gate seems to be one of the main problems and the shaft tends not to be balance so it will only be a matter of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docurley View Post
    The waste gate seems to be one of the main problems and the shaft tends not to be balance so it will only be a matter of time.
    my new turbo{used}has just landed and its f**ked before i even get it on there.
    there is loads of play in the shaft and the waste gate side is full of oil.
    I have just emailed the bloke who assured me it worked fine on his car but this i doubt very much looking at the movement in the shaft.

    I will have to wait till i get mine off and see what the damage is to that and see what the bloke says.

    not a happy bunny at all
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    paypal claim time.

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    Well if the guy is reasonable and will refund you maybe half as a good will gesture, maybe you can hybridise one turbo from the both.

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    ie fit the exhaust housing from the smoker onto the old k03 core?

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    Yeah I am sure that what he meant he should have been clearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    ie fit the exhaust housing from the smoker onto the old k03 core?
    I've done this with a K03 before.. not too difficult but takes a bit of concentration to get it all lined up correctly.

    ..had to thickness a spanner down to get into some of the studs mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    paypal claim time.
    10mins after opening box mate lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzan A4 View Post
    Well if the guy is reasonable and will refund you maybe half as a good will gesture, maybe you can hybridise one turbo from the both.
    I am kind of hoping he does offer to send me half cash back to be honest mate and do what aragorn said lol

    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    ie fit the exhaust housing from the smoker onto the old k03 core?
    Great minds think alike on this one hey
    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Princess View Post
    Yeah I am sure that what he meant he should have been clearer
    I know what he meant lol but wouldnt have a f**kin clue how to tho

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Goodall View Post
    I've done this with a K03 before.. not too difficult but takes a bit of concentration to get it all lined up correctly.

    ..had to thickness a spanner down to get into some of the studs mind.
    i will be happy to pull abit of money back from rather refund or selling one good turbo out of the 2 because I know a top lad who's got a top turbo that im buying off him asap dont I Lee{sent you Pm} can i have it yesterday mate lol
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    Update from the dodgy turbo man

    The guy has emailed me back and said he will send another shaft/fins inside bit lol off the original kkk one he had before he got the copy.

    That would then mean i have 3 insides{1 knacked} 1 good original cool side, 1 copy cool side, 1 knacked back exhaust side and 1 good exhaust side

    What do you guys think on this? would i pull a bit of money back from my audi original in good working order

    Or would i be better just putting everything I have on ebay and see what i get but tell them exactly what they are going to get.
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    The question is why did he fit the copy in the first place? It might indicate his used bit is just as shafted as the copy. Seems he's also admitted its a copy now, which goes against his original auction title?

    I'd say a partial refund, and use the good exhaust housing with your original core is the most sensible way to go, selling the complete turbo once you fit lees, or a full refund, fit Lee's blower streight off and put yours on ebay saying that the turbos in good condition, it just needs another exhaust housing.

    If he sends you the other internals, you still cant make any more than one good turbo? So your no better off than you are now?

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    He could make a turbo assuming Karl gets to keep the copy as is to rape the exhaust manifold from it. That way no more cash to pay to get the car on the road for now. That gives Lee time to remove the Scroll and Karl will be mobile and have something to sell later to offset his expenditure so far maybe?
    Just throwing it out there

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    latest update

    A full refund has gone back into my paypal and email from the dude asking is i want to pay 30 and keep the turbo lol

    me being the cheaky so and so i am have sent him email back saying i will give him 20 and end the matter there lol

    My gran always said if you dont ask ya never know lol

    I take it Lee has still got the turbo on his car then?

    I would go with what you lads are saying and make a good un out of mine and then sell it on when Lee is sorted to send his.

    mmmmmmmmmm 20 sounds a bit much now ive sat and thought a bit lol but in all fairness he was more than happy to rip me off big time.
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    last upate on the dodgy turbo

    we have come to agreement and the bloke is sending me another centre shaft fins ect and i have now paid him 20 for the lot.

    im just waiting for Lee to get back to me and see what time scale he is thinking to pass his turbo on and then i know if it as worth me waiting or getting the turbo's stripped to try and make one good one out of all the bits.

    does anyone know if i would have to buy a seal kit or anything to make one good turbo out of all the bits if i decide to go down that road just to get my car back on the road and incase Lee needs a bit more time time to get him self sorted at his end.

    big THANKS to you all for your kind comments and helpful sugestions hopefuly i will be mobile soon one way or the other
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    Hi mate,

    PM sent.

    Sorry for the delay.. been a killer of a day at work today.

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    Nah the exhaust housing will once undone, come off. Make sure you mark the orientation of it, or pipes and brackets may not fit,lol

    Might be worth an overnight saok in some releasing oil to allow ease of dissasemmbly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Goodall View Post
    Hi mate,

    PM sent.

    Sorry for the delay.. been a killer of a day at work today.
    no prob mate

    chat again soon Lee{save my mobile num}, I should be back on road weekend all being well and will give us both a bit of time to get sorted.
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