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    A thread for all 'Pre-Facelift' B5 owners...

    Has anyone left their pre-facelift car pre-facelift and prefer it that way?

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    Mines still pre.......but I've only owned it a month lol

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    Foxmiester is the only guy I know thats rocking pre-facelift and loving it.

    I prefer the door handles from a pre-facelift.
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    personally i feel the facelift makes the car a nicer place to be.

    Less 1990's and more 2000's

    The exterior tweaks are subtle, but FL headlights and grill really make the outside look much less dated too.

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    Agreed first thing you should do to a PFL is facelift it as it will look more modern and not like an old 80 or 100 lol
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    Each to their own. I can see things I like in pre and post but I'm still in love with the older stuff where I started with the 100's 80's and especially the 90 Sport. There was a logical progression to the model range. I could see the evolution in parts of my 90 to my pre facelift A4
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    Nope!
    Fl bumper and lights on mine, I much prefer the look of them.
    Do agree on the door handles though, reassuringly old audi

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    Is that all that's required, bumper & lights?

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    i dont mind the handles, and the bumpers arent hugely different to be worth changing unless they're needing changed anyway, but the headlights make a massive difference to the overall appearance of the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd1983 View Post
    Is that all that's required, bumper & lights?
    Outside, there are lots of small details, but the lights are the most noticable.

    For the exterior, they changed:

    Door Mirrors
    Door Handles
    Rub Strips
    Side Repeaters
    Headlights
    Grille
    Bumpers
    Windscreen Wipers
    Windscreen Washer Nozzles
    Rear lights
    Boot lid/grab handle.

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    those two diagrams annoy me, because half the stuff on them is optional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    those two diagrams annoy me, because half the stuff on them is optional.
    Amend them and remove the optional items.
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    So I can just replace the headlights?? It's on my to do list :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd1983 View Post
    So I can just replace the headlights?? It's on my to do list :D
    You'd need to cut your wings and change/rewire the plugs.


    I want the chrome strips.

    EDIT:=- Bumpers, boot, bonnet...............Maybe I should have bought a facelift...
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    I actually prefer the pre-facelift dash layout but like the centre console from a facelift a bit better, I'm just going to swap the later console in and keep my original dash for the best of both worlds. I managed to get a pre-facelift console with arm rest so I need to cut the facelift one to accept it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB5 View Post
    Foxmiester is the only guy I know thats rocking pre-facelift and loving it.

    I prefer the door handles from a pre-facelift.
    Well, not completely pre, theres a few changes like;

    Headlights (facelift)
    Bumper Fr (RS4 so technically facelift)
    Grille (Again RS4)
    Rear Bumper (S4 Facelift)

    Then theres the custom stuff;

    Deleted wing repeaters
    Deleted door bottom strips
    Taillights
    etc

    So its a mix of new, old and different but yeah i like how some of the pre stuff is, door handles etc. Biggest thing to change i agree is the headlights, pre-face ones just look so aged and discoloured, even a clean car can look rough with small details like this.

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    Incidentally has anyone got an original pre-face lift passenger side indicator in good condition kicking about?

    Even better I don't suppose anyone has a pair of PFL 'left hand drive' headlights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixmaster View Post
    Incidentally has anyone got an original pre-face lift passenger side indicator in good condition kicking about?

    Even better I don't suppose anyone has a pair of PFL 'left hand drive' headlights...
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