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    Auto wipers and lights

    I know they got the option for auto dimming mirrors but what about the wipers and lights?

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    Never seen anything about these functions on a B5. I'd imagine the later cars that do it have Canbus for signalling.

    While i can see the usefulness of an autodimming mirror (the occurrence of glare from vehicles behind tends to be a random event that comes and goes thru a journey), i'm not sure i see the point of automatic lights or wipers and imo its the start of a slippery slope that we're already heading down at high speed.

    Maybe i'm just a bit weird, but my personal view is the more stuff you do "automatically" for the driver, the less attention the driver ends up paying to whats actually going on. Driving standards are falling all the time, and my view is that all these aids simply make it possible for standards to drop further.

    With adaptive cruise and various lane assist technologies we've got cars on the market now that you could more or less get into the middle lane of a motorway set the cruise at 80mph then shut your eyes for half an hour and not die. Ofcourse the manufacturers tout these features as useful safety additions, but with the driving sitting there thinking the cars going to do everything for him, attention levels invariably fall, and you've now got someone hurtling down the M6 at 80mph thats paying next to no attention to whats actually happening around them. Bloody scary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    Never seen anything about these functions on a B5. I'd imagine the later cars that do it have Canbus for signalling.

    While i can see the usefulness of an autodimming mirror (the occurrence of glare from vehicles behind tends to be a random event that comes and goes thru a journey), i'm not sure i see the point of automatic lights or wipers and imo its the start of a slippery slope that we're already heading down at high speed.

    Maybe i'm just a bit weird, but my personal view is the more stuff you do "automatically" for the driver, the less attention the driver ends up paying to whats actually going on. Driving standards are falling all the time, and my view is that all these aids simply make it possible for standards to drop further.

    With adaptive cruise and various lane assist technologies we've got cars on the market now that you could more or less get into the middle lane of a motorway set the cruise at 80mph then shut your eyes for half an hour and not die. Ofcourse the manufacturers tout these features as useful safety additions, but with the driving sitting there thinking the cars going to do everything for him, attention levels invariably fall, and you've now got someone hurtling down the M6 at 80mph thats paying next to no attention to whats actually happening around them. Bloody scary!
    I agree 100%.

    I was driving home last night on the M5 at about 75mph with cruise on and thinking about the adaptive cruise and lane assist tech and thinking I could just lay back and go to sleep or watch a film or something. That is stupid and I would never do it but it is a scary thought that cars are doing more and people are doing less.

    I watch a documentary about car safty and their export guy felt that everyone would drive alot safer if every car was wrapped in TNT and set to blow up if it hit any thing else.

    I like gadgets and toys but there has to be a limited on how much theses gadgets take away from the drivers, unless every car on the road becomes 100% automated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    you could more or less get into the middle lane of a motorway set the cruise at 80mph then shut your eyes for half an hour and not die. Bloody scary!
    Been there, done that... lol obviously on a closed circuit, but indeed you can. the lane mitigation will keep you between the lanes, and the cruise will keep a set distance from the car in front. though i will say that being a "passenger" with the wheel in front of you is quite a nerve racking experience...
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