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    Instrument cluster

    Has anyone changed or had their instrument cluster (speedo) changed on their b6 S4 or A4?
    Mine is faulty (S4) and i was wondering how easy it is to change.

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    yeah mate i had mine changed about a year ago no probs changing it .was a bit of a pain codeing it to the car though.quite a pricey part if i remember right about 480 depending whether you have the colour dis or not.
    So if you're handy with the old vag com it shouldn't be to bad.

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    They can be repaired.
    BBA reman or clusterrepairs.......

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    hopefully one of the sparky's will pip up soon, but I think a repair is easier than a replace - quite a bit of extra coding that needs doing if it's a new cluster...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chunky79 View Post
    Has anyone changed or had their instrument cluster (speedo) changed on their b6 S4 or A4?
    Mine is faulty (S4) and i was wondering how easy it is to change.

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    Dunc
    Send a pm to shark_90. I am sure he appears on here sometimes or he is definitely on tyresmoke.net. He will be able to advise and help you out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostbok View Post
    hopefully one of the sparky's will pip up soon, but I think a repair is easier than a replace - quite a bit of extra coding that needs doing if it's a new cluster...
    I've been told that if it gets repaired theres a chance it could fail again pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alipaton View Post
    yeah mate i had mine changed about a year ago no probs changing it .was a bit of a pain codeing it to the car though.quite a pricey part if i remember right about 480 depending whether you have the colour dis or not.
    So if you're handy with the old vag com it shouldn't be to bad.

    Ali
    Can you remember what had to be removed to get it out?
    530 i've been told by wolvo Audi.
    I have vag-com but only used it to diagnose this fault. Should make it's money back with this fault though

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    Quote Originally Posted by no_idea View Post
    Send a pm to shark_90. I am sure he appears on here sometimes or he is definitely on tyresmoke.net. He will be able to advise and help you out.
    Just sent him a pm.
    Cheers

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    don't think it's a big job taking it out just a couple of screws above the stearing colum behind the rubber gaiter.Then a couple of big multi plugs.But as said the coding was a bit tricky
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    Quote Originally Posted by no_idea View Post
    Send a pm to shark_90. I am sure he appears on here sometimes or he is definitely on tyresmoke.net. He will be able to advise and help you out.

    YES YES YES!! shark_90 sorted me out! excellent guy, cant recommend him enough!!

    I saved about 700, yes 700 quid using him instead of audi! For a cluster change including sorting all the imobiliser stuff out. Just buy a used cluster off ebay and he does the rest.

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    I have been in touch with him and he has been really helpful, the problem i have is finding a used cluster. Can't find any cars in scrap yards close to me.
    I've found a company in Dorset (autotek) who can repair or sell 2nd hand unit's but have been warned off them.

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    None on ebay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunky79 View Post
    I have been in touch with him and he has been really helpful, the problem i have is finding a used cluster. Can't find any cars in scrap yards close to me.
    I've found a company in Dorset (autotek) who can repair or sell 2nd hand unit's but have been warned off them.

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    Don't touch Autotek with a barge pole mate they are absolutely useless. I used them a couple of times for faulty ecu's, came back as they went faulty in the end i started using BBA reman never had a problem with them yet.
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    Theres one in the states if youre desparate. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-AU...Q5fAccessories
    FOR SALE... 2007 Rns-e (sds), 2009 OEM bluetooth module, Flat bottom TTRS MFSW, steering wheel control module and slipring. All in Classifieds, Pm me if interested.

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    I've seen the one in the states but it's 185 and i think it could be a bit of a risk. it's a shame i've not got a B5, seen plenty of those for around 40.
    Cheers for the link though.
    I'm getting a bit sweaty now cause the m.o.t is due soon and i think they will fail the car if the light comes on.

    Dunc

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    Which error light are you getting Dunc?

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    I get the air bag light come on after 10 mins.
    Will post the fault codes up in a minute

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    Tuesday,20,October,2009,19:54:05:42335
    VCDS Version: Release 908.1

    Data version: 20091018


    Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6/B7
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 67
    69 75 76 77

    VIN: WAUZZZ8EX4A123688 Mileage: 121240km/75335miles
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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 HW: 8E0 907 560
    Component: 4.2L V8/5V 0040
    Coding: 0011711
    Shop #: WSC 63251 000 00000

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 614 517 Q
    Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3033
    Coding: 04595
    Shop #: WSC 06435

    No fault code found.

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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 820 043 AC
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1319
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 63251

    1 Fault Found:
    01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
    35-00 - -

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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
    Component: int. Lastmodul RDW 0517
    Coding: 00011
    Shop #: WSC 63251

    1 Fault Found:
    01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
    35-00 - -

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    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 959 655 B
    Component: Airbag 8.4EP 3002
    Coding: 0010602
    Shop #: WSC 63251 000 00000

    2 Faults Found:
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
    000 - - - Intermittent

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    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 953 549 S
    Component: Lenksulenmodul 0611
    Coding: 01012
    Shop #: WSC 63251

    1 Fault Found:
    01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
    35-00 - -

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    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 920 980 L
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D36
    Coding: 01400
    Shop #: WSC 00198

    Part No: 23688
    Component: AUZ6Z0C0157838
    23688 AUZ6Z0C0157838

    No fault code found.

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    Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw. 0704
    Coding: 00001
    Shop #: WSC 00000

    No fault code found.

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    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 959 433 BC
    Component: Komfortgert T3B 1311
    Coding: 07115
    Shop #: WSC 63251

    Part No: 8E2959802B
    Component: Trsteuer.FS BRM 0003

    Part No: 8E2959801B
    Component: Trsteuer.BF BRM 0003

    Part No: 8E0959801A
    Component: Trsteuer.HL BRM 0004

    Part No: 8E0959802A
    Component: Trsteuer.HR BRM 0004

    2 Faults Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
    35-00 - -

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    Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
    Part No: 4Z7 907 357
    Component: dynamische LWR D09
    Coding: 00060
    Shop #: WSC 63251

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 035 195 M
    Component: symphony II NP2 0400
    Coding: 01200
    Shop #: WSC 65536

    No fault code found.

    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Ah I see, things just getting their knickers in a twist because of the immobiliser playing up.

    I know it's not ideal but what about putting a normal A4 cluster in just as a stop gap until you can find an S4 one?

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    The car still runs ok. The only way i know it has a fault is the air bag light coming on and it also seem's that the 2nd position for the display (mil,av mil,time of driving) has stopped working.
    Would still like it done A.S.A.P

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    Well it looks like i have had the bargain of the century. Managed to bag me a new cluster for a USA s4 (only difference is it says unleaded fuel only in the gauge and there is no 90o in the temp gauge) for 36 delivered!!!! Ebay rules for once.
    Anyway, popped up to see Ben aka shark_90 in mansfield today and he fixed the car within 30 mins. He replaced the cluster and reprogrammed it and all works good.
    I would highly recommend him to anyone who needs anything doing to the electrics on thier car.
    Thanks again Ben for a superb job

    Dunc

    edit (forgot to say nice to meet the other 2 guy's there aswell and hope audi sorted your car, soory but i have forgotten your names)

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    Yeah Audi did manage to sort the car out in the end, 2nd melted coil pack in as many days but this time it took a 20A fuse out with it too! Audi Assist turned up with a new coil and Dan left with a few extra bhp and a smile on his face I'll pass on your regards.

    It was nice to meet you and your S4 is lurrvely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunky79 View Post
    Well it looks like i have had the bargain of the century. Managed to bag me a new cluster for a USA s4 (only difference is it says unleaded fuel only in the gauge and there is no 90o in the temp gauge) for 36 delivered!!!! Ebay rules for once.
    Anyway, popped up to see Ben aka shark_90 in mansfield today and he fixed the car within 30 mins. He replaced the cluster and reprogrammed it and all works good.
    I would highly recommend him to anyone who needs anything doing to the electrics on thier car.
    Thanks again Ben for a superb job

    Dunc

    edit (forgot to say nice to meet the other 2 guy's there aswell and hope audi sorted your car, soory but i have forgotten your names)
    So it was you who outbidded me!

    The hunt continues!

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    There are others out there. I didn't want to pay too much for a USA cluster just in case it didn't work but anything under 250 is a good buy now i think.
    You can buy my old cluster off me if you want and try and get it repaired, that way your motor won't be off the road??

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunky79 View Post
    Well it looks like i have had the bargain of the century. Managed to bag me a new cluster for a USA s4 (only difference is it says unleaded fuel only in the gauge and there is no 90o in the temp gauge) for 36 delivered!!!! Ebay rules for once.
    Anyway, popped up to see Ben aka shark_90 in mansfield today and he fixed the car within 30 mins. He replaced the cluster and reprogrammed it and all works good.
    I would highly recommend him to anyone who needs anything doing to the electrics on thier car.
    Thanks again Ben for a superb job

    Dunc

    edit (forgot to say nice to meet the other 2 guy's there aswell and hope audi sorted your car, soory but i have forgotten your names)
    As Ben said, they got it going thanks Its back in the Dealers today having the steering sorted and the other coil packs changed.

    Ended up buying an S4 cluster myself so its off to see Ben when I get the car back. 140. Im praying its got a colour DIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunky79 View Post
    There are others out there. I didn't want to pay too much for a USA cluster just in case it didn't work but anything under 250 is a good buy now i think.
    You can buy my old cluster off me if you want and try and get it repaired, that way your motor won't be off the road??
    I'm only joking! I'll find one - the car works, I want to upgrade from red DIS to colour cluster, that's all I want it for!

    Chas

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    chas - yours a petrol / diesel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostbok View Post
    chas - yours a petrol / diesel?
    It's a petrol, manual... S4 cluster would be fine, the only issue being the slightly different redline start, but other than that, perfect..

    Chas

 

 

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