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    New to A4 - Does your speedo look like this?

    Just got a 1.8T s line quattro, but its a jap import.

    Dont think i have the correct speedo in when it was converted over.

    Rev range doesnt look right and should the speedo rest way below zero at standstill?


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    Looks normal and the same as others to me

    EDIT: Oops, I've just re read your question. I only read the last line previously..........didn't look at the speedo just the rev counter and didn't realise your's was a petrol. Shame on me for not reading a couple of short lines
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    you sure that rev range in correct? or a petrol? seems to redline far to early.

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    definately a diesel rev counter

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    Diesel Dash there mate a petrol rev range is up to 7k rpm.

    It looks like they changed the faces, but used the wrong parts, and stuck the needles on too low too, other wise you are ticking over at only 600 rpm.

    That would make me slightly concerned whether the milage is correct or not
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    Why did you buy a Jap import in the fist place....When there are so many A4 's out there ?????????

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    im am the third owner, the first being the one who had audi them selves import it, as i have the audi import papers.

    How much would it cost to change to a petrol counter?

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    definitely diesel rev counter!
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    Yep, I agree, Diesel Rev counter - not trying to throw spanner in but as mentioned, Id be a little worried as regards to Mileage etc..

    How can someone be dumb enough to put a Diesel Clock in a Petrol...and think it looks normal. Check the tickover..

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    engine sounds fine on tick over, its quiet. I have all previous MOT certs with mileage. Dont know how else to check, maybe phone audi as they themselves imported it for a uk customer.

    Does anyone know the cost of changing this, found the units on ebay for 70 quid, but i take it it needs some programming also from audi?

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    check which fuel it takes
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    its deffo petrol! its quiet, 1.8T on the engine, and unleaded sticker next to fuel cap.

    Just went through all the papers i got on phoned the lad who had it imported (he baught it for his wife), he said it came with 7k miles. MOT certs account for rest of mileage.

    For some reason the dial cluster was changed over on the cheap

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    hey - I had to ask

    there's probably no re-coding required - check your change-up points, I'm guessing that if you're gunning it, you'll still be changing up at 4.5k-5k on that dial (i.e. 6k-6.5k in reality).... so it's proably just tha facia that needs changing? Or are you revving it off the dial with ease?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostbok View Post
    hey - I had to ask

    there's probably no re-coding required - check your change-up points, I'm guessing that if you're gunning it, you'll still be changing up at 4.5k-5k on that dial (i.e. 6k-6.5k in reality).... so it's proably just tha facia that needs changing? Or are you revving it off the dial with ease?
    i check on the change over in the morning, but in normal D mode its changing about 2k on the dial i have now. I'll try in S mode in the morning.

    I still get the typical Coil symbol lit up on just before i turn engine over?

    Also is the speedo right, resting that low??

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    no - that's not right either way....

    here's pics of mine, it rests on "0mph" whether the engine is off or on:

    OFF (clickable picture): Started (clickable picture):
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    thanks for that, well i know i have a small problem here. Just need to fix it.

    Anyone done this before, straight unit swap? or pop needles off and change dials?

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    need to see a petrol dial to see if the petrol speedo zero's slightly lower.... if it does, then probably a swap-over....
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    With regards the mileage see if you can find local garage with a Bosch KTS diagnostic system as this will read the mileage from the ecu not the dash.
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    Just curious but was it just the dials they swapped over not the whole unit & also given my experience with clusters I dont know if where it came from is in KMH or MPH??

    There's a reason to ask & I will advise when have answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Just curious but was it just the dials they swapped over not the whole unit & also given my experience with clusters I dont know if where it came from is in KMH or MPH??

    There's a reason to ask & I will advise when have answer.
    simple answer, i dont know sorry.
    I originally came from japan in 2005. They use KPH i think, but that would explain why they would change the rev dial.

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    Well problem is if they've changed the dials only anyway the speedo wont match up for mph anyway cause the clusters are actually specifically setup for either kph or mph, you cant get a kph cluster & stick oem mph dials on it & code it to make it show correctly, its just impossible, it needs to be an actual mph cluster or new dials made to allow for the differences in kph/mph.

    I found this out with my cluster upgrade, no matter what coding you put on the car to make it aware of rhd it wouldnt change the speedo over.

    All you can do is get someone to make the proper dials up for you once you establish the issue at hand, get the cluster part number with a scan of VAGCOM then we can determine your best course of action mate, I know a company that can make new dials for you if this is the solution to the problem.

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    Japan definitely uses km/h - if we hadn't established that already....
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    I hope the car was cheap enough, are there any other problems with car?

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    Phoned audi and they cant change clusters as there is an immobilser in the cluster. And tbh i have seen the VOSA papers saying car must be fitted with one when it was imported, so maybe thats another reason for it being changed.

    Im ordered a new cluster off ebay, does anyone know anywhere that can programme these in?

    Also, as an afterthought, does the cluster i have just baught matter if its a manual or auto? can it simply be programmed either way?
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    Contact shark_90 he has just bought all the correct equipment to recode instrument clusters. He should be able to advise you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no_idea View Post
    Contact shark_90 he has just bought all the correct equipment to recode instrument clusters. He should be able to advise you.
    thanks for that, i'll contact him.

    Just spoke to an audi specialist and he said waste of time buying a cluster as audi are the only ones that can programme the immobiliser.

    So basically i have to buy the clocks from them and get them to install them.

    Just bought a set off ebay too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgesxi View Post
    thanks for that, i'll contact him.

    Just spoke to an audi specialist and he said waste of time buying a cluster as audi are the only ones that can programme the immobiliser.

    So basically i have to buy the clocks from them and get them to install them.

    Just bought a set off ebay too!
    Have you contacted shark_90 yet, I am almost certain he can do it!!
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    Yep, I can program replacement clusters in. Just happened to log on and got your PM, I'll send you one back. If you can get a replacement set of clocks from a breaker, I can put them in and sort the immobiliser and mileage out for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgesxi View Post
    Phoned audi and they cant change clusters as there is an immobilser in the cluster. And tbh i have seen the VOSA papers saying car must be fitted with one when it was imported, so maybe thats another reason for it being changed.

    Im ordered a new cluster off ebay, does anyone know anywhere that can programme these in?

    Also, as an afterthought, does the cluster i have just baught matter if its a manual or auto? can it simply be programmed either way?
    Thats a pile of horse**** cause I have personally taken a used cluster & had it fitted by my local dealer, they will fit it full stop because its your clusters so all they have to do is provide an install service & as long as the newer cluster matches the car correctly interms of immo versions then they should do it without any issues.

    ETKA doesnt seem to differentiate from manual/auto just derv/petrol & speed, so part number needed to ascertain best option for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by gadgesxi View Post
    thanks for that, i'll contact him.

    Just spoke to an audi specialist and he said waste of time buying a cluster as audi are the only ones that can programme the immobiliser.

    So basically i have to buy the clocks from them and get them to install them.

    Just bought a set off ebay too!
    There are other people out there namely auto locksmiths that have equipment for this job, problem is the year & immo version & encryption on the clusters but given age of your car there will be others out there, just call audi back & tell them you want to book an engineer for 30 mins to code your new cluster in, simple as that, they shouldnt refuse as its just you asking for a service.

    Anyway as I have already stated whats the cluster part number so we can ascertain which version it is then can advise the next step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shark_90 View Post
    Yep, I can program replacement clusters in. Just happened to log on and got your PM, I'll send you one back. If you can get a replacement set of clocks from a breaker, I can put them in and sort the immobiliser and mileage out for you.
    Which cars/years can you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Which cars/years can you do?
    B6/B7 A4s are no problem. Some of the newer CAN stuff isn't doable yet, I'm waiting for the update which I'm assured is around the corner.

    Here is the full list, although it seems there has been an update to V7 so perhaps this list needs to be updated again.

    http://www.abritus72.com/Covered_Ext...rity_Code6.pdf

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    Dealers phoned me with a price to swap clocks over. Unbelievable price! Parts and fitting 800 !!

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    I had a similar quote for my Audi S3, About 500 for the Cluster and 300 to fit.. Then the dreaded VAT

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    All sorted!
    Shark90 done what most near me said was impossible or very expensive to do!

    This guy really knows his stuff and i would recommend anyone to see him for any repair/diagnostic/tune!

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    Good Evening,

    I'm glad I've come across this post & you! I've got a cluster which I certain of, has the programming/needles in reading out in KMH & a rev counter behaving like a petrol rev counter possibly, the dial face etc is diesel, as is the car. Could you help? Thanks.

 

 

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