nefA4
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Yes im asking for advise, if posible
Sorry, yes this is what i did, but i havent install hid's yet
Yes im asking for advise, if posible
Well as long as your headlights still work, it's so far so good.
There seems to be a few solutions floating around here so you may as well do what other people have advised to do also.
You can move the hids ballast back into the engine bay away from wiring.
Cover the cars wiring (behind headlights) & the HIDS wiring with foil or what I would use, rubber from a bike inner tube.
So then you have done 3 possible solutions to stop dash warning lights come on.
Well as long as your headlights still work, it's so far so good.There seems to be a few solutions floating around here so you may as well do what other people have advised to do also.You can move the hids ballast back into the engine bay away from wiring.Cover the cars wiring (behind headlights) & the HIDS wiring with foil or what I would use, rubber from a bike inner tube.So then you have done 3 possible solutions to stop dash warning lights come on.
To insulate the cables must use Aluminum foil.
That's the same material companies selling HPS lights (High Pressure Sodium) use to shield their lights & avoid EMI (Electro Magnetic Interference).
This HPS lights also works with high voltage cables and voltaic arcs, same as HID.
I will upload more info later, in case it can help someone.
We have been using this trick for years in some Audi forums.
EMI are very common between this type of lights HPS & HID.
IEEE Xplore - The reduction of Total Harmonic Distortion and electromagnetic interference in high pressure sodium ...
The existing conventional street lighting HPS are powered by magnetic ballasts. The magnetic ballast is a device which consists of coil and core. It is an uncontrolled device, not energy efficient and generate flicker before it can give steady light. The use of electronic ballast provides a rapid start and energy efficient but will create electromagnetic interference and harmonic.Here an example of how this shielding works.
Aftermarket HID kits cause many interference problems due to High Voltage.
- Audi A4 B6 = ABS / ESP errors
- Audi A3 = Blows away the wiper motor
- Volvo S40 - V50 = Blows away the Wiper motor
- Peugeot 407 = Blows away the Wiper motor
- Golf IV = Wipers move once when HID bulbs are turned ON.
- Seat Ibiza (old model) = Digital clock, Partial KM or Miles reset when HID is turned ON
- Also very common are interference in your radio AM/FM, your radio won't be able to get a strong signal.
I have been working with HID for the last 7 years & I suffered all this problems myself.
Putting ballast and all cables inside rear headlight housing its that safe??doesn't get hot around headlight housing? Just a though,if it work more power to us,in expenses ideas that works for me!
Think i might wrap mine in some foil to be safe! Do you wrap just the ballast or do you have to wrap the wires as well? And this is just ordinary kitchen foil yes?
Yes ordinary kitchen foil, i wrap the ballast and all wires
My HID's are still setting off the ABS warning and also sometimes the dipped beam bulb out warning comes up.
Today I tidied up the cut car loom earth, wrapped it in gaffa tape and tidied up where I had cut the loom sheath.
The solder joint from headlight to additional earth wire is still strong and I soldered the earth wire to the washer I put under the washer bolt to ensure good contact.
I've got to exchange side light bulbs are the 5 cluster LED ones were poop, so I'm going to try upping the size wire for the earth, all I had to hand at the time is some wire out of a 3 core extension lead cable.
The LED sidelights were faulty 1/5 LEDs on each bulb had blown but these have been iffy since 2 weeks after installation and until recently I wasn't getting issues with "dipped beam" warning, so I'm on the assumption that there's an issue with the earth.
HID's are OEM install on the underside of the headlight. I haven't wrapped the wires inside the headlight although this may be a job to do tomorrow when I fiddle with the earth.
As I don't have any thicker wire to hand I was going to run 2 wires soldered at the ends and maybe try earthing to 1 of the chassis leg bolts.
Nah when the ABS warning goes it's just the ABS no ESP.
Normally switching the car completely off then restarting gets rid of the warning but today the left dipped beam just does not want to work.
What kind of OEM ballast, the A4 B6 Valeo OEM ballast?
What type of bulb are you using? H7, D1S, D2S ?
Do you have any pic?
I have canbus on my, 35w/600k, i think 55w its too much voltage, i had 55w/600k bought them on ebay and they start doing crazy things with my abs module so i got rid of them, i guess if u install them properly as far from any modules and cover ballast with foil paper u should be ok, and remember if u get them 55w/5000k its going to be bright but yelloish, if u want pure white u have to go with 6000k, a little bluish 8000k, i will recomend 6000k white bright. Hope that help35w/6000k on pic canbus kelvins Hid's.I've had HIDs over the years on various different cars but my question is, are they worth installing on the b6? I know they have projector headlights which is what HIDs should be installed onto anyway but what is the light output like? Do you get a razor sharp cut off with the standard projectors? I'm thinking of a 55w 5000k setup by the way. I'm just thinking, the kits that people are using, are they the Non Canbus version or can bus?
I have canbus on my, 35w/600k, i think 55w its too much voltage, i had 55w/600k bought them on ebay and they start doing crazy things with my abs module so i got rid of them, i guess if u install them properly as far from any modules and cover ballast with foil paper u should be ok, and remember if u get them 55w/5000k its going to be bright but yelloish, if u want pure white u have to go with 6000k, a little bluish 8000k, i will recomend 6000k white bright. Hope that helpView attachment 2691835w/6000k on pic canbus kelvins Hid's.
I have canbus on my, 35w/600k, i think 55w its too much voltage, i had 55w/600k bought them on ebay and they start doing crazy things with my abs module so i got rid of them, i guess if u install them properly as far from any modules and cover ballast with foil paper u should be ok, and remember if u get them 55w/5000k its going to be bright but yelloish, if u want pure white u have to go with 6000k, a little bluish 8000k, i will recomend 6000k white bright. Hope that helpView attachment 2691835w/6000k on pic canbus kelvins Hid's.
I had 6000k first, and then changed to 4300k as I felt they were too blue.
The extra light output of the 4300 over the 6000's is surprising. I'd only ever use 4300 or max 5000k now.
With my aftermarket HID's I've learnt that if I let the engine idle for 30 seconds BEFORE turning on my headlights I DON'T get the brake warning.
If I turn them on straight after starting the engine or before starting the engine then I do get the warning flashing up. So for the last 2 months I've not had one warning flash up.
I however do have some genuine B5 S4 xenon headlights with genuine ballasts so I will be fitting these, including the light domes, into my B6 at somepoint.
Dan
Its the high voltage in the cables the after market kid carries, but i do too agree with you on rather use foil paper than to pay $300, thats what i did too,but for those who dont want to deal with abs issues or wipers motor issues and have the xtra cash then is best to invest on those. Life is about choices!!!It's a shame the real deal or good copies are so expensive, those welloem HID kits that were mentioned were nearly 300 dollars.
Now I'd rather invest a few quid in foil to resolve the issues of a 60 quid kit.
So how comes OEM ballasts don't cause ABS issues? afterall there mounted in the same place that most of us are putting them.