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    Cant switch hazard lights off...

    I have recently purchased a 2003 Audi a4 1.9tdi quattro, however the hazard lights stay on even when the keys arent in the ignition. Also the central locking isnt working off the key fob and i have the immo light flashing

    The things i have done are:

    New (Second hand CCM) and coded in - i think i have coded it in correctly

    New cluster - However i am unsure if these are any good as i cant get vag tacho to talk to them and retrieve the ssk code or correct the mileage, not sure if the eeprom has been deleted

    Checked Central electric module (J519) - they turn off when i unplug the 10 and 32 pin plugs, tried another one and it still done it, so i guess it cant be this? the unit was removed from a none quattro car and had a few pins missing compared to mine, but i guess as it was still doing it then is cant be this?

    Checked alarm siren and taken apart - The batteries have leaked and gone all over the pcb, not sure if this would cause it, but at the moment everything is pointing me into the direction of the alarm system...

    Checked and removed the hazard switch and checked fuses and no change

    I keep researching and i am going round in circles at the moment and i dont want to start replacing things that wont make any difference. I am however going to buy another set of clocks and see if these will make any difference...

    Has anyone had similar problems and had any results in repairing it?

    Thanks in advance

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    dod you replace the ccm under seat or cem under dash ?

    does the c locking work from the key ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bez101 View Post
    dod you replace the ccm under seat or cem under dash ?

    does the c locking work from the key ?
    i have replaced the CCM under the passenger seat and tried another CEM from a friends car, however, his one had fewer pins than mine his part number was 8e0 907 279 j or q and mine is 8e0 907 279 e but this didnt seem to make a difference anyway.

    and no the central locking doesnt work off the key

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    you could have a broken wire or 2 in the rubber boot between car and door very common

    was your mates CEM from a b6 or b7 ?

    have you ran a scan for any fault codes

    sounds daft but have you tried to resync the remotes ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bez101 View Post
    you could have a broken wire or 2 in the rubber boot between car and door very common

    was your mates CEM from a b6 or b7 ?

    have you ran a scan for any fault codes

    sounds daft but have you tried to resync the remotes ?
    where abouts is this wire? would this wire be causing my hazards to stay on constantly? they go off for abit until i shut or open the door or start the car.

    The CEM was from a b6, exactly the same apart from his wasnt a quattro and was a 52 plate and not 03 like mine...

    I have used vag com and it comes up with a few codes, but nothing points me to the right direction or jumps out at me as being something wrong, it does come up with alarm and alarm being activiated by drivers door switch or something.

    No havent re sync keys, how is this done?

    thanks

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    Open the door. Your see a rubber boot. Pull it back and check the wires for breaks .

    And yes it could, wiring problems could cause any funny issue. But the flashing imob light would suggest the cluster isnt coded to the keys immobiliser chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boost-addict View Post
    Open the door. Your see a rubber boot. Pull it back and check the wires for breaks .

    And yes it could, wiring problems could cause any funny issue. But the flashing imob light would suggest the cluster isnt coded to the keys immobiliser chip.
    Ok ill check that later today, should i check all of the doors wiring? Alot of water also comes out from the bottom of the drivers side back door when it has been raining, not sure if its worth checking behind the door card to see if it has fried anything?

    i think you could be right with the immo light as the keys do need coding to the cluster, this could also explain why the central locking isnt working, but again, i couldnt get vag tacho to talk to the cluster, think it was an old version of vag tacho, ill buy a new cluster and newest version of vag tacho today

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    Sounds like the same issue I was having, check this thread out;
    Hazard lights stuck on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexGSi2000 View Post
    Sounds like the same issue I was having, check this thread out;
    Hazard lights stuck on.
    I found your thread the other day and thats why i started looking around the CEM (J519 as vag com knows it as) the hazards stop flashing when i unplug either the 10 or 32 pin plugs on it, but then it stops all of the outside lights and window wipers from working aswel, however, when i plug it back in the hazards start again and they stay on continuously for about 5-10minutes then turn off, but then turn on again once i turn the ignition on or open the door.

    I have taken the unit out and removed it from the plastic box but i cant notice anything and it seemed dried. Like i have said, i tried my friends one and it still done the same thing, although his did have less pins and a different part number, im not sure if this is to do with it not working or not?

    Did you ever get yours sorted Alex?

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    Well rain does run down to the bottom of the door and out the drain hole. But this is only a small amount. If the window seal is perished or split then yes excess water could cause condensation and cause corrostion and oter problems. So yes i would check that out and all door looms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydinator View Post
    I found your thread the other day and thats why i started looking around the CEM (J519 as vag com knows it as) the hazards stop flashing when i unplug either the 10 or 32 pin plugs on it, but then it stops all of the outside lights and window wipers from working aswel, however, when i plug it back in the hazards start again and they stay on continuously for about 5-10minutes then turn off, but then turn on again once i turn the ignition on or open the door.

    I have taken the unit out and removed it from the plastic box but i cant notice anything and it seemed dried. Like i have said, i tried my friends one and it still done the same thing, although his did have less pins and a different part number, im not sure if this is to do with it not working or not?

    Did you ever get yours sorted Alex?

    Did you open up the ECM and take a look at the circuit board?
    Mine appeared to be dry from the outside but upon opening it there was water in there.

    I dried it all out and put it back in the car - the issue was solved straight away.
    The wet had corroded part of the board slightly so didn't think it would still work 100% - but up-to now its been fine.

    I would put money on your ECM being at fault.

    Where abouts are you located? If your in the NW I dont mind you trying my ECM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydinator View Post
    where abouts is this wire? would this wire be causing my hazards to stay on constantly? they go off for abit until i shut or open the door or start the car.

    The CEM was from a b6, exactly the same apart from his wasnt a quattro and was a 52 plate and not 03 like mine...

    I have used vag com and it comes up with a few codes, but nothing points me to the right direction or jumps out at me as being something wrong, it does come up with alarm and alarm being activiated by drivers door switch or something.

    No havent re sync keys, how is this done?

    thanks
    im thinking you have either 1 fault causeing lock and flasher problem the flashing could be the alarm going off as you have the code and the lock switch could make the alarm go off and make the c locking not work

    or 2 faults 1 with ecm and 1 with door lock switch as the ecm doesnt run the locks
    can you rescan and post codes ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bez101 View Post
    im thinking you have either 1 fault causeing lock and flasher problem the flashing could be the alarm going off as you have the code and the lock switch could make the alarm go off and make the c locking not work

    or 2 faults 1 with ecm and 1 with door lock switch as the ecm doesnt run the locks
    can you rescan and post codes ?
    I was thinking it could be an alarm problem, i have removed the alarm siren and the batteries had leaked and gone all over the PCB, i have cleaned it off with ipa and i am going to do the AA battery repair on it later today.

    Although i think with regards to the central locking not working, i think the key needs pairing to the cluster as it does lock and unlock all the doors by putting the key in the door and the red light flashes but then stays solidly lit...

    I have saved the last log i done and will post it later today

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexGSi2000 View Post
    Did you open up the ECM and take a look at the circuit board?
    Mine appeared to be dry from the outside but upon opening it there was water in there.

    I dried it all out and put it back in the car - the issue was solved straight away.
    The wet had corroded part of the board slightly so didn't think it would still work 100% - but up-to now its been fine.

    I would put money on your ECM being at fault.

    Where abouts are you located? If your in the NW I dont mind you trying my ECM.
    Yea i have opened it up and when i did, i didn't notice any water or corroded parts. I have since taken it into work for a closer inspection and to re flow some of the components, but i doubt this would make any difference, could be one of the components have broken down. I guess the ECM needs to be an exact P/N match in order to cancel it out being that?

    Unfortunately im as south as you can get

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    and no the central locking doesnt work off the key


    i was going off that what you said
    so key in door works the locks ?

    if so try resync put key in ignition turn on enging off
    press lock unlock lock unlock
    take key out close door try see if it works

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    already tried re syncing keys and it doesnt do anything... think the key needs pairing to the cluster in order to get the central locking working.

    Im not overly fussed about central locking not working, just want to get down to why the hazards keep flashing, but they dont flash at the same speed as the hazards, its alot quicker and then turning the hazard switch on slows it down and if i put either indicator on its as if theres not problem until they cancel.

    Cant get my head round it at the moment, but ill put up my vag results in abit

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    its defo aa alarm problem quick flash like alarm going off
    slows down when you use hazards as it should
    id be looking at the door lock micro switch
    but im sure its a full door lock needed as switch is built in

    its worth a try checking the door loom still as the wired do break

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    Thats what i am thinking and the alarm siren looked knackered when i took it apart so couldn't tell if alarm was going off or not, i am going to replace batteries on that and see if it gets the alarm working.

    One of the faults i got on vag com was saying alarm activated by door contact or something on drivers door along with a faulty alarm siren, which i guess is the batteries leaking

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    and the door part is the micro switch in the lock

    not working or wireing fault

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    ok, so your thoughts are with the alarm causing the indicators to stay permanently lit?

    I always thought that the alarm turns off after a while and this does that but then comes back on as soon as you start it or open the door, i guess thats the whole point?

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    UPDATE:

    I have bought a new CEM but still hasnt sorted it and bought a new set of clocks and this hasnt worked either. Bought vag tacho 3.01 and i can not get it to read the info in the clocks, just says software version unknow - access denied.

    Anyone got any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydinator View Post

    Anyone got any ideas?
    yes.


    petrol>matches>car>insurance claim

    :D

    but seriously no, sounds like you have swapped all electronical units, i suggest you save your self any more cash buying stuff here and there and just get a auto electrician to track the fault, they aint as expensive as you think. and will trace the fault in a fraction of time and proberly cost that it will take you

    i would find one near to you but your about me page is blank so cant help on locating one

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    i have never taken a car to a garage since ive been driving and i dont want to start now...

    I think i have come to a conclusion of switching all the unnecessary functions off in the CCM as i believe everything is switched on as standard and this is where all the alarm functions are stored i.e. flash on when arming/unarming alarm system, activating/deactivating alarm system etc...
    Last edited by rydinator; 12th September 2013 at 16:07.

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    when you have the CEM unplugged do you still get this problem ?

    i still do think its the alarm at fault poss the micro switch

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    when i unplug the 10 pin connector on the CEM it stops.

    I have sinced switched the entire alarm system off and now it seems to have solved the constant flashing when the ignition is on..

    But now the hazard lights stay on when the engine is running and the hazard switch is dimmly lit when ignition is off, any ideas?

    I have ran a full scan and got the following codes:

    VAG-COM Version: Release 311.2-N




    Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6
    Scan: 01,02,03,08,09,15,16,17,26,36,37,45,46,55,56,63,76

    Address 01 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 038 906 019 JT
    Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 1572
    Coding: 00003
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    2 Faults Found:
    18043 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from A/C Controller
    P1635 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
    18058 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Instrument Cluster
    P1650 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
    Readiness: N/A


    Address 03 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 8E0 614 517 A
    Component: ABS/ESP allrad 1729
    Coding: 04255
    Shop #: WSC 06435
    3 Faults Found:
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85): Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    35-00 - -
    18258 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ECU
    P1850 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent


    Address 08 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 8E0 820 043 J
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1116
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    10 Faults Found:
    00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113)
    41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
    00735 - Potentiometer in Positioning Motor for Air recirculation Flap (G143)
    30-10 - Open or Short to B+ - Intermittent
    01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2)
    30-10 - Open or Short to B+ - Intermittent
    00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
    07-10 - Signal to Low - Intermittent
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    49-00 - No Communications
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent


    Address 09 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 8E0 907 279 E
    Component: int. Lastmodul RDW 0305
    Coding: 00001
    Shop #: WSC 00853
    6 Faults Found:
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    49-00 - No Communications
    01753 - Windshield Wiper Motor (V) Stage 1
    31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    01800 - Light Switch (E1)
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    79-10 - Please Check Fault Codes - Intermittent
    01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent


    Skipping Address 15-Airbags


    Address 16 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 8E0 953 549 F
    Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0308
    Coding: 00012
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    2 Faults Found:
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    49-00 - No Communications


    Address 17 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 8E0 920 950 J
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D35
    Coding: 00400
    Shop #: WSC 00183
    WAUZZZ8E83A171253 AUZ6Z0B0228085
    1 Fault Found:
    01176 - Key
    65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent


    Address 45 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 8E0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw. 0604
    Coding: 00001
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    1 Fault Found:
    01463 - Alarm triggered by Sensor for anti-theft alarm System
    43-00 - Closed


    Address 46 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 8E0 959 433 BC
    Component: Komfortgerát T3B 1211
    Coding: 02752
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    1 Fault Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
    29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent


    Address 56 -------------------------------------------------------
    Controller: 8E0 035 186 J
    Component: concert II GRO 0008
    Coding: 01003
    Shop #: WSC 63351
    4 Faults Found:
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00852 - Loudspeaker(s): Front
    36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment
    80-00 - Single-Wire Operation


    End -------------------------------------------------------

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    clear it all and re run the scan
    some may be old

    how have you switched the alarm system off ?

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    Agreed 90% of those are irrelevant. Clear codes make the car run though the issues your having and see what comes up. I can bet you your find the problem. Its all electrical and will leave a "paper trail" if you like. There are a few that stand out but you cant tell if its the real problem or not.
    Good luck

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    cleared codes about a million times but these are the ones that keep pop up. and yes i have turned the complete alarm system off now and it seems like i am getting somewhere now, but hazards are flashing normally when engine is running but i cant switch them off...

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    wow, ALL those codes come up?

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    have you looked up the codes

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    yea thats the first thing i always do and then i research it.

    but i cant really find much tbh on those codes. To be fair i clear them and they go but then they come back again once ive left it a few hours or if i turn over the engine

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    ok gimme a while i know how to search the codes via rosstech website, ill post back which a page for every code
    unless of course its a stupid one like supply voltage +b too low, just means youve had the battery disconnected or one like the alarm set off by door etc

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    ok here goes, might be a massive fail or could answer some questions, or at least open new questions leading to the ultimate fix




    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 01317 - Ross-Tech Wiki


    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85): Supply Voltage Terminal 30 01826 - Ross-Tech Wiki


    18258 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ECU 18258/P1850 - Ross-Tech Wiki






    Address 08 -------------------------------------------------------
    10 Faults Found:
    00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113) nothing found


    00735 - Potentiometer in Positioning Motor for Air recirculation Flap (G143) nothing found


    01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2) 01273 - Ross-Tech Wiki


    00819 - High Pressure Sensor 00819 - Ross-Tech Wiki


    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 01317 - Ross-Tech Wiki


    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 01317 - Ross-Tech Wiki


    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519) http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01457


    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00474


    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 01317 - Ross-Tech Wiki






    Address 09 -------------------------------------------------------


    6 Faults Found:
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer


    01753 - Windshield Wiper Motor (V) Stage 1 http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01753


    01800 - Light Switch (E1) 01800 - Ross-Tech Wiki


    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)


    01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 01312 - Ross-Tech Wiki






    Skipping Address 15-Airbags
    why? not sure why a full scan would skip the airbags. ill comment below




    Address 16 -------------------------------------------------------


    2 Faults Found:
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)


    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer




    Address 17 -------------------------------------------------------


    1 Fault Found:
    01176 - Key 01176 - Ross-Tech Wiki






    Address 56 -------------------------------------------------------
    4 Faults Found:
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)


    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00466




    01305 - Databus for Infotainment http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01305
    80-00 - Single-Wire Operation






    ok going over that i see two faults occurring over the scan


    1. 01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    2.00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer

    but i also see

    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
    01312 - Powertrain Data Bus


    and then 18258 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ECU


    then i see it skipped the airbags,






    so my advice here. and some one may correct me and i might be miles from the issue but here goes


    im finding it hard to believe all those control modules are dead or broken


    but heres my finding with another dead module,
    my abs module was dead, and prevented me reading ANY other module unless it was unplugged,


    but im starting to think your ecu could well be the issue here,


    unless there's a break in a wire that goes to the module that control the immob and cluster (which are on the same circuit i believe)


    as the fault codes keeps telling you cluster and immob isnt communicating and lastly the control module for the network (ecu?)


    and then also stating powertrain data bus missing message from ecu.

    so two faults stating the ecu and the fact nothing wants to communicate.

    can you scan a car with the ecu disconnected?



    i do hope this helps

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    Thanks for taking the time to research those codes for me I appreciate it.

    I should add, that I cleared the majority of them after I ran that initial scan and a lot of the faults might be because I’ve unplugged different control modules and the clocks before running that full scan… It was late when I posted and wasn’t thinking straight, so will run another scan later today and see what pops up.

    Just to add, I have tried vag tacho 5 and I still cannot connect to the RB4 crypto cluster to read the pin to match the key to the cluster. However I have managed to pair the key to the CCM so I now have the central locking working off the key.

    Just to illiterate, that I have turned the complete alarm system off which has stopped the hazards from flashing quickly as if the alarm was going off, but I now have the hazards flashing normally when the engine is running and I cannot switch them off from the switch

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    Oh my word, this could be a simple issue or a few things.

    Did you replace the alarm siren? May be worth while doing so you can confirm if the alarm is going off when the hazards flash quickly.
    In terms of the lights flashing when the engine is running;
    Have you removed the long plug under where the CEM is located by the pedals? Do the lights stop flashing?
    Also, try removing the hazard light switch - this didn't do anything for me, but could possibly rule out a faulty switch.

    I think its going to be a case of trial and error - have you checked the door wiring looms for any splits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexGSi2000 View Post
    Oh my word, this could be a simple issue or a few things.

    Did you replace the alarm siren? May be worth while doing so you can confirm if the alarm is going off when the hazards flash quickly.
    In terms of the lights flashing when the engine is running;
    Have you removed the long plug under where the CEM is located by the pedals? Do the lights stop flashing?
    Also, try removing the hazard light switch - this didn't do anything for me, but could possibly rule out a faulty switch.

    I think its going to be a case of trial and error - have you checked the door wiring looms for any splits?
    I haven’t replaced the alarm siren yet, I didn’t think that would cause many issues? I have switched the alarm system off now and they’re not flashing quickly anymore… Im not overly fussed about having no alarm at the moment.

    I have removed the grey 32 pin from the CEM and that stops it, if I leave that plugged in and remove the black 10 pin plug on the CEM that also stops it, but I lose all exterior lights. I bought another CEM from ebay, but problem still there, so I doubt they’re both fudged…

    Also removed hazard switch and it carrys on flashing, so I think I can rule it out being a faulty hazard switch.

    Ive checked all door wiring looms and all looks ok, apart from the thick brown wire on the drivers door between the door and the car, it has the plastic sheath torn, but theres nothing to short out on and no broken wires, looks like a ground from the AWG of the wire

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    the brown is indeed the ground,

    i think if you try what i said you may get some luck, but i dont know if you can unplug the ecu and still scan the car.

    and not to slate you alex, but you just suggest to try every thing he has already posted he tried,

    i have also pin pointed and maybe even stated your problem, ecu or airbags. this may be blocking you from reading any modules. just like i explained about my abs module it blocked me reading and clearing codes.

    my thoughts here are if the key isnt coded correctly and the ecu hasn't been told as it looks like neither the cluster or any other module including the ecu are talking to each other, when i had key troubles, my key light would flash on the dash and the indicators would also flash even with the engine running.

    like i said also. call an auto electrian that also has vag com and go from there. and to your comment it dosnt envolve taking it to a garage, they come to you

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    Done abit more work today, managed to get the flashers turned off..

    However, ive only been able to do this by snipping one of the wires on the green connector on the back of the clocks, this has turned the indicators, handbrake light and full beam and head light lights off the cluster aswel but they all work on the outside still.

    The wires in questions on the green connector are T32/17 and T32/18 but neither of these show up on the wiring diagrams so im not sure what they are for, but it seems to have stopped the problem for the time being... but i need to try chase this wire back to where the source

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    Check all the wires running along the sill on the passenger side. Look for any wires with a green tinge.
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    What would a green tinge indicated?

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    Again, what would a green tinge indicate?

    I pinned T32/15,16,17 (blue plug on instrument cluster) pins out to T32b/13 ( Grey plug on CEM) And T32/16 (blue plug on instrument cluster) pins out to T32b/12 (Grey plug on CEM)

    Pins 12 and 13 on the cem is high and low can bus, I don't if that has any relevance to my problems, but those pin out results seem like they are shorting out... And I'm not 100% sure what those pins are on the blue instrument cluster connector as they are not mentioned on any of the wiring diagrams I have seen

 

 
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