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    Wheels for 2004 1.8T Quattro Sport Avant 190

    Hi there

    I have a 2004 (53 plate) Audi A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro Sport. It's got the standard 17" 5 spoke wheels on it.

    I'm looking to get the 18" old RS6 style wheels from ebay that were standard on the S Line models but am getting very confused because 18" wheels seem to come in different widths, etc?!

    I was thinking of getting these but am unsure if they will fit my car?

    AUDI PART NUMBER: 8E0 601 025 S

    5 X 112 PCD

    7.5 J X 18H2

    ET 54 (offset)

    Does anyone know anything about this sort of thing? And which tires would then fit on these wheels?

    I also wonder is it possible to get locking wheel nuts from an Audi dealer that would fit these wheels??

    Thanks loads in advance! (From an obvious newbie)

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    Hi.

    As soon as your post count lets you, do a search in the b6 forum (advanced search function) there's also some info in a sticky in the diy thread

    Those you've listed are a 'narrow' offset (the ET is large) standard A4 B6 wheels are et43-45 and a lot of people here go to an ET of 33-35 (i'm running et35 and 8.5" rims).

    Standard tyres are 235 40 18 for an 18" rim (these were standard on the s4 and an option on the 'range' )- this keep the speedo (similar rolling radius) close to original (overall diameter like or very close to your std tyres)

    Some on here use 225 40 18 as tyres are cheaper but speedo reads a little more out.

    Standard rims (Audi OEM, ronal etc) use radius wheel bolts - hence a set of Audi locking bolts will fit (you may need to check the length compared to the standard ones (if you fit spacers etc) and in fact the bolts you have should be fine to re-use (gert some locking ones if you haven't already and simply swap 4 of them).

    Aftermarket rims use tapered bolts and mustn't use or mix with standard bolts (aftermarket locking bolts are available too).

    Cheers & welcome BTW
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    Thanks loads for all this info. The 'ET' seemed odd to me - so basically i should not get these wheels as they are too narrow?

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    simply yes. google for a proper explanation of et.

    your rims at 7.5 are a bit narrow, as std audi rims are 8 inch for an 18.
    with an et of 54 the whole wheel will sit 9mm further in too

    so you'll have narrow rims tucked further in than your current ones

    you could reduce the offset to 34 by adding 20mm spacers (cost) but you'll have to use v long wheel bolts (cost) and why?

    as 18 x 8 et 43-5 oem rims are pretty readily available...
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    Thanks loads - so basically i need to get 18 x 8 ET 43 / 45 rims and 235 40 18 tires and then locking wheel nuts. Do you know anywhere I can get the RS6 wheels? I've tried everywhere but no people seem to produce replicas anymore.

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    or if they're really really cheap you could use them with 20mm spacers and 225 40 18 tyress (which are about the cheapest 18" tyre going) and looooong bolts and they'd sit right out like the stance-boys.

    It's personal preference I tend to be a little OCD and use OEM fitment / size wherever possible - but have 18x8.5et35 zenders just ot prove I'm not totally anal

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbee3 View Post
    Thanks loads - so basically i need to get 18 x 8 ET 43 / 45 rims and 235 40 18 tires and then locking wheel nuts. Do you know anywhere I can get the RS6 wheels? I've tried everywhere but no people seem to produce replicas anymore.
    Not sure what 'style' your referring (like I said i'm a bit anal and have S4 Avus') to you mean 'fat fives' (the real chunky five spokes)?

    ebay / classifieds on here / gumtree (sometimes) put a wanted 'ad' up....
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    Just to show you what ET 54 looks like with 20mm spacers on...


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    That's exactly what i want. But what are 'spacers' and what do they do?? (sorry!)

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    Basically a chunk of metal that sits between your hub and wheel to make the wheel sit further out the car. Search on ebay for wheel spacers and you'll soon see what they are.

    Good luck finding some wheels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by krisavant View Post
    Just to show you what ET 54 looks like with 20mm spacers on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbee3 View Post
    That's exactly what i want. But what are 'spacers' and what do they do?? (sorry!)
    I will have pair of 20mm spacers with bolts for sale very very soon if you want them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krisavant View Post
    I will have pair of 20mm spacers with bolts for sale very very soon if you want them?
    I had trawled ebay and have not had any joy getting hold of these RS6 style wheels! Any other ideas anybody? I am willing to pay a small 'finders fee' for anyone who can help sourced these wheels!

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    Ive just had a lookon ebay theres loada of genuine rs6 wheels for sale at the moment
    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
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    None the right size though!

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    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
    Mods: bsr optiflow kit, forge diverter valve, custom turbo back exhaust, custom 200 cell cat, DGR coilovers, forge tip, s3/tt 386cc injectors, boost gauge, revo stage 2, 12mm rear spacers, rear window extension spoiler
    To come: big brake setup... Getting there!!
    boats and hoesss, boats and hoesss

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    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
    Mods: bsr optiflow kit, forge diverter valve, custom turbo back exhaust, custom 200 cell cat, DGR coilovers, forge tip, s3/tt 386cc injectors, boost gauge, revo stage 2, 12mm rear spacers, rear window extension spoiler
    To come: big brake setup... Getting there!!
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    These will both fit your car
    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
    Mods: bsr optiflow kit, forge diverter valve, custom turbo back exhaust, custom 200 cell cat, DGR coilovers, forge tip, s3/tt 386cc injectors, boost gauge, revo stage 2, 12mm rear spacers, rear window extension spoiler
    To come: big brake setup... Getting there!!
    boats and hoesss, boats and hoesss

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    i think the offset is wrong though? Droplr • Screenshot on 2013-05-30 at 18.36.35.png

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    These will both fit your car they are genuine audi wheels and have the correct offset
    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
    Mods: bsr optiflow kit, forge diverter valve, custom turbo back exhaust, custom 200 cell cat, DGR coilovers, forge tip, s3/tt 386cc injectors, boost gauge, revo stage 2, 12mm rear spacers, rear window extension spoiler
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    The standard offset between a avant and saloon are 3mm different not gna make any sort of difference on the carthey sit way to far in to become a problem
    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
    Mods: bsr optiflow kit, forge diverter valve, custom turbo back exhaust, custom 200 cell cat, DGR coilovers, forge tip, s3/tt 386cc injectors, boost gauge, revo stage 2, 12mm rear spacers, rear window extension spoiler
    To come: big brake setup... Getting there!!
    boats and hoesss, boats and hoesss

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    ah ok thank you i will try to get them!

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    Generally stick between an offset of 35 to 45 nothing more nothing less if your buying 8j wheels or lower
    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
    Mods: bsr optiflow kit, forge diverter valve, custom turbo back exhaust, custom 200 cell cat, DGR coilovers, forge tip, s3/tt 386cc injectors, boost gauge, revo stage 2, 12mm rear spacers, rear window extension spoiler
    To come: big brake setup... Getting there!!
    boats and hoesss, boats and hoesss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andie0 View Post
    Generally stick between an offset of 35 to 45 nothing more nothing less if your buying 8j wheels or lower
    Hi there

    Will these wheels fit my car? He says they are 8 x 18 et 43

    18" RS6 Style Alloys & Tyres | eBay

    What tires should I use? (My car currently runs on 17" Audi OEM alloys so I presume i need to get lower profile?)

    Thanks a million in advance for any help!

    J

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    Yes they'll fit fine, and the tire size currently on them is OEM, so will keep your rolling circumference almost identical, which is what you want!


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    Thanks so much. Are KUMHO tires any good?

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    I have kumho's on my 17's and quite like them actually, was recommended them by a fellow member on here. My 18's have some no name brand, sunfull or something, and they're awful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy88 View Post
    My 18's have some no name brand, sunfull or something, and they're awful.
    Not Fullrun by any chance? My old A4 had those on the rear from the dealer and I've never lost the back end so many times as I did with those - and that even includes on my old 200sx!

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    But back onto topic... I seem to remember that et54 will be a3 wheels - as has been said A4 offset is around et35-42.

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    I have ET32 with 8.5x18 wheels on mine and it sits and clears all arches fine. The face of the wheel is flush with the car wings.
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    Thank you

    Just wanted to say thank you ALL for providing so much useful information. Being someone who has very little car knowledge I found you guys the only real good source of info and it allowed me to make a good decision - i'm happy with my new wheels! (Pic below)

    audi.jpg

    On another odd note when I had the wheels fitted the guys said the car at the rear looked ridiculously low, as though the suspension was broken. I must admit that the car crashes terribly over bumps and the wheels at the rear seem to sit very high up into the body (i.e. the car seems to look 'lowered' at the back). But they examined the springs and they were not broken. Any ideas?
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    Sikkk told ya dis you buy the ones i showed you off ebay
    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbee3 View Post
    On another odd note when I had the wheels fitted the guys said the car at the rear looked ridiculously low, as though the suspension was broken. I must admit that the car crashes terribly over bumps and the wheels at the rear seem to sit very high up into the body (i.e. the car seems to look 'lowered' at the back). But they examined the springs and they were not broken. Any ideas?
    Does your car have a tow bar? If it does could have been used for towing a caravan or a trailer which over time will make the springs sag. Also being an estate it's most probably carried a fair amount of weight over its life.
    Perhaps you should invest in a new pair of springs and shocks for the rear.
    Plus looking at the picture of the car it would appear to be a "Sport" model which is 20mm lower than a standard car to start with.
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    Looks spot on to me thats how sports models sit with no suspension mods.

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    Ah no, i found some other ones but ended up driving 5 hours to get them! But there were a great buy and in fantastic condition. Only bummer is now there is a squeaking sound from the car engine and the 'ECON' light is permanently lit. My local mechanic thinks the compressor or entire aircon unit is broken! I love the car so will probably just pay to get it sorted. Next stop Milltek exhaust - don't know which one to get? Is there a big difference between 90mm and 100mm trims??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbee3 View Post
    On another odd note when I had the wheels fitted the guys said the car at the rear looked ridiculously low, as though the suspension was broken. I must admit that the car crashes terribly over bumps and the wheels at the rear seem to sit very high up into the body (i.e. the car seems to look 'lowered' at the back). But they examined the springs and they were not broken. Any ideas?
    B6's always sit 10-15mm lower at the back than the front, that's why a lot of people fit B5 spring perches to drop the front down to equalise it.
    Ingolstance Read about my A6 HERE.

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    As James says above......ref the econ light that ususally means the ac gas levels are below min, so in short you need the system regassed.
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    Erm not a massive difference but I went for 100mm tips as they fill ou5 the rear holes in bumper perfectly
    2004 audi a4 s line 1.8t bex 242bhp dynoed
    Mods: bsr optiflow kit, forge diverter valve, custom turbo back exhaust, custom 200 cell cat, DGR coilovers, forge tip, s3/tt 386cc injectors, boost gauge, revo stage 2, 12mm rear spacers, rear window extension spoiler
    To come: big brake setup... Getting there!!
    boats and hoesss, boats and hoesss

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    The econ light could also be the sensor that sits on the air con rad at the front. Changed mine yesterday, took about ten minutes to do and have my air con back now. Part was £56 from the dealers. Easy job.

    Wheels look great also. Would like a set for mine really. How is the ride now?

 

 
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