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    b6 s4 owners WARNING very lucky escape

    have just had a very very lucky escape

    whilst filling up at a local petrol station , with my young daughter strapped in the car (engine off with keys removed from ignition)
    noticed a small puff of smoke from under bonnet , this very quickly became a lot of smoke
    i threw the petrol pump down and pulled my daughter to safety

    then popped the bonnet armed with an extinguisher

    after letting the smoke clear ive found that one of the coil packs has decided to burn spontaneously combust

    after doing a little research it appears as though these are sometimes being replaced for free by audi dealers

    COULD THIS BE THE REASON WHY ???? PISSED OFF IS A MAJOR UNDERSTATEMENT

    just a precautionary tale guys and gals if your still on your original coil packs go and get them replaced
    a.s.a.p

    both my daughter and the car are fine , but this is purely luck and could have so easilly been a very very differant story


    pictures and video of the incident to follow shortly

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    Good job youre both fine!

    Damn right Audi should fit them for free! Shouldnt they be recalled and better ones be fitted?

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    There is a coilpack TSB across the whole VAG group. They don't want to call it a recall as they would then have to contact every owner of the effected cars. Phone Audi to see if your car is covered. If it is they will replace them all FOC.
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    thanks
    ive been informed about the tsb and have asked my local dealer why i have not been contacted (doncaster audi)
    there reply was "a recall will only be issued when it is thought something is dangerous or hazardous"
    to which i was a little dumb founded
    the local dealer has been absoloubtedly useless in solving the problem and im now speaking to audi u.k hoping to get a little more sense

    ive had the vehicle for 6 years now and it has been faultless up to this point , but this has destroyed my confidance with the vehicle
    and my daughter is now frightened to get in the car because of the incident

    after doing a little research i am not the only person whom this has happened to its happened to a few people with the same outcome not just in s4,s but in a4,s also
    i have been very lucky but these two guys were not so

    Coil Pack Fire!!!! Help - AudiForums.com

    Bad coil pack causing an engine fire? - AudiWorld Forums

    if you have old coil packs guys please ask about getting them replaced as i would hate for anyone else to go through what i have
    had to over the last 24 hrs
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    Quote Originally Posted by dualmono21 View Post
    ive been informed about the tsb and have asked my local dealer why i have not been contacted (doncaster audi) there reply was "a recall will only be issued when it is thought something is dangerous or hazardous"
    to which i was a little dumb founded
    The thing is that to be made a recall VOSA have to be convinced that there is a significant risk of injury or death.

    Given that the number of incidents of coil packs causing fires is so long, I reckon it's extremely unlikely that VOSA will take that step.
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    Just passed a 1.8t b6 avant that was being recovered on the road after a full on engine fire. Looks like they must have had a similar problem.
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    if they burn out when its running then its more than likely a earth issue than the coil pack itself.

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    Scary, only got around to doing mine recently.
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    The second AudiWorld link above was caused by the idiot driving around with a missfire pouring unburnt fuel into the exhaust. Completely different issue, and entirely the fault of a retard owner.


    The TSB is for coilpacks failing, not going on fire, which is why its a TSB and not a recall. Its VERY rare for them to actually burn up. Usually the fuse blows if theres a serious fault that could draw enough current to melt the coil.


    I'm surprised it melted with the ignition off too! They dont have any power with the car is off....

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    I made them change my S3 coil packs when I bought mine, but never had an issue with them at the time thankfully.
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    I phoned up Audi regarding a key coding item and the lassie said there was a "ignition" recall on my car who that be what there talking about ?
    was really supprised as mine is 10yr old
    I bought a convertable in the wettest country in the world who says Scotsmen dont have a sense of humour !

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallmonk View Post
    I phoned up Audi regarding a key coding item and the lassie said there was a "ignition" recall on my car who that be what there talking about ?
    was really supprised as mine is 10yr old
    So if cars have nearly gone up in flames I call that a urgent recall.... So why ain't they been in touch sooner.... Audi crap customer service as usuall..
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    Quote Originally Posted by fallmonk View Post
    I phoned up Audi regarding a key coding item and the lassie said there was a "ignition" recall on my car who that be what there talking about ?
    was really supprised as mine is 10yr old
    Sounds like the Service Campaign (it's not a recall, they don't contact you about it but they tell you about it when you contact them) to replace the coilpack versions that are unreliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marktdisport View Post
    So if cars have nearly gone up in flames I call that a urgent recall.... So why ain't they been in touch sooner....
    You've got to look at the scale of the potential problem. How many Audis (and VWs and Skodas and Seats) use these coilpacks? - maybe a million or more worldwide. How many have suffered fires? - a few tens?

    If you're the one that has a fire then it's a 100% problem, but the actual probability of that happening is maybe 1 in 100,000 (about the same of the risk of dying during a 40 mile commute to work).

    Life is all about calculated risks, total avoidance of risk (despite what the 'elf & safety fools say) just isn't possible.
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    as above its TSB cos there unreliable so no recall
    your coil pack may have had a diffrent fault altogeather
    theres not that many reported fires on the net caused by coil packs
    also above you need the wireing checking b4 you replace the pack as there should be NO power to it with the car off

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    Just a quick update, car was in today , Glasgow audi ,
    got key coded at a reasonable £44 , i supplied key supplied by a recomended locksmith who supplied a 3 button key for £80 !!!
    and asures me its a genuine product (a lot cheaper than the £150+ audi quoted) and the coded it no questions asked so i asume it was ok ,
    Anyways at the same time they done the coil packs BUT they only done TWO ! sales didnt know why but am asuming the rest have be replaced by the newer style(non bursting into flames) type at previous services etc !
    still happy anything for nothing out of Audi is nice
    I bought a convertable in the wettest country in the world who says Scotsmen dont have a sense of humour !

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    definitely worth popping in to local audi dealer to check any recalls have been done. first thing I did when I bought my S4. the coils had been done about 3 years ago, had heard about another possible recall regarding auxilliary radiators but audi assured me it didn't apply to my year S4
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