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    Burnt Lamin-X Front Fogs

    Anyone else had this problem?

    Looks like I have a couple of burn marks on the Lamin-X vinyl on my front fogs
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    No, can't say as I have but I have only had Lamin-X on mine for the last couple of months. Are you running HID's in the fogs?

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    No HID's in the fogs.

    Just got a small brown mark on each where the light is concentrated the most.

    My front fogs are used as DRL's though..
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    Are you using the original bulbs?
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    Any pics Ryan?

    I thought Lamin-x was bullet proof
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    I'll try and get some pics tomorrow for you..

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    It guess it must be because the bulbs are that much closer to the lens
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanstewart9 View Post
    My front fogs are used as DRL's though..
    Dont you get pulled for that? 30 fine where I live.
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    Nope.

    MOT tester told me it's not illegal to have them on during daylight, hence why they can be selected via vagcom.
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    Why would you want your fog lights on during the day anyway ?? do you keep your wipers on when the suns out as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanstewart9 View Post
    Nope.

    MOT tester told me it's not illegal to have them on during daylight, hence why they can be selected via vagcom.
    Your MOT tester is wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee_R View Post
    Your MOT tester is wrong

    Quite right Lee !

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    one of my pet hates is people driving with fog lights on when there is no fog!

    i ALWAYS bang on the xenons on full beam when someone comes towards me with their stupid fog lights on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinA3 View Post
    one of my pet hates is people driving with fog lights on when there is no fog!

    i ALWAYS bang on the xenons on full beam when someone comes towards me with their stupid fog lights on!
    i do exactly the same, only i dont have xenons. a lot of people dont realize it is illegal to have fog lights on when there is no fog, whether it is day or night.

    anyway, you may be getting burn marks because they are constantly on and as someone said, the bulbs are very close the glass.
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    Just found this on Cheshire Police's website

    "Lights - What are the rules regarding lights on my vehicle?
    To drive a vehicle at night, all of the necessary lights must be attached, clean and in good working order.

    Fog lamps:

    Front fog lamps are not obligatory but if fitted must be white or yellow in colour, used in a pair and must not cause undue dazzle or discomfort, nor be used except in seriously reduced visibility. They must be clean and in good working order.
    Rear fog lights are obligatory on a vehicle first used on or after 01.04.86. They must be red in colour and must not cause undue dazzle or discomfort, must not be lit whilst vehicle is parked nor to be used except in seriously reduced visibility.
    Where two are fitted both must work. Where one is fitted it must be fitted to the centre or the offside of the vehicle. They must be clean and in good working order.
    The driver must be able to see the lights are on by way of a visual indication (warning light) inside the vehicle.

    Spot lights:

    Spot lights or additional headlights can only be used in a pair and in conjunction with full beam headlights and should not be capable of being illuminated without the operation of the obligatory headlights."

    I know the first thing I will be doing when I get my VCDS cable from Nigel.

    Aside from that here are a couple of pics of my dreaded fog lights


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    As above, I run a MOT station & also know there are MOT issues & road traffic issues - the two SHOULD be the same LOL
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    Yea but why would you want to run fog lights when there is no fog.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanstewart9 View Post
    My front fogs are used as DRL's
    Someone turned them on via VCDS as DRL's. As soon as you turn the light switch to sidelights or dipped beam they turn themselves off.

    I guess it's not illegal to run your front fogs during the day in some countries....
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    Well they were not designed to run all the time so i suspect they are over heating hence the scorch marks. Cant see what else it can be ....

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    They are designed to be used as DRLs in some countries (not the UK) so it isn't that they're overheating, they're just not designed to have a thin sheet of rubber stuck to the lens.
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    I hate muppets using their fog lights when it's not foggy, one of my top 10 hates!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch78 View Post
    They are designed to be used as DRLs in some countries (not the UK) so it isn't that they're overheating, they're just not designed to have a thin sheet of rubber stuck to the lens.
    So your saying that they are not over heating and thats causing the scorch marks ? or are you saying the lamin x was not designed to go on fog lamps ?
    Seems to me the light uses the glass as a heat sink and by putting the lamin x on the glass you are causing the whole unit to over heat....so they are over heating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    ...or are you saying the lamin x was not designed to go on fog lamps ?...
    That.

    Quote Originally Posted by mitch78 View Post
    ...they're just not designed to have a thin sheet of rubber stuck to the lens.
    and that.

    Have you ever felt the fog lens after a short period of use? It gets VERY hot, obviously too hot for the Lamin-x to withstand for long periods.

    That doesn't mean the light unit is overheating, that's like saying if I put my hand on a recently used electric hob and I burn my hand, the hob must have been overheating. It wasn't, it was designed to get hot, it just wan't designed to have a hand on it, and my hand wasn't designed to be attached to a hob.
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    Nice comparison there
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonAshley View Post
    Nice comparison there
    No its not really ! A hob was designed to get hot. a fog light is not designed to get hot. It may get hot but it wasn't designed to get hot any more than a hob glowing red was designed to shine through fog.
    i am simply saying that by covering the glass in a "thin sheet of rubber" you are likely to stop the dissipation of the heat from the unit and it will over heat and burn the "thin sheet of rubber"
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanoir View Post
    I hate muppets using their fog lights when it's not foggy, one of my top 10 hates!!
    100% agree mate. Tends to mostly be the chavs/kavs over here in their civics and fiestas. Gets right on my t*ts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    No its not really ! A hob was designed to get hot. a fog light is not designed to get hot. It may get hot but it wasn't designed to get hot any more than a hob glowing red was designed to shine through fog.
    Is this better for you?

    Have you ever felt the fog lens after a short period of use? It gets VERY hot, obviously too hot for the Lamin-x to withstand for long periods.

    That doesn't mean the light unit is overheating, that's like saying if I put my hand on the front of a recently used floodlight and I burn my hand, the floodlight must have been overheating. It wasn't, it was designed to get hot (even if that isn't its function) it just wan't designed to have a hand on it, and my hand wasn't designed to be attached to a floodlight.

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    Is this gonna affect CO2 and the enviroment? All this talk of heat and disipitation.
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    Well you'll all be happy to know I received my VCDS cable from Nigel (Thanks Nigel) today and the first thing I did was disable my fogs as DRL's!

    Only thing is it turned off the sidelights with it

    Apologies to all the people I seem to have offended having them on in the first place....
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    Glad you have the lead, you can now play about with other things too LOL
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