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    What's the best CAI/induction kit for 2.0 TFSI?

    right guy's am wanting to get a decent CAI/induction kit for my 55 plate a3 2.0tfsi.
    so what are my options and which are the best??????

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    Do a search for the Pipercross Venom on here. Quite a new kit, but keenly priced.
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    I've been thinking the same thing recently. I really like the look of the Carbonio kit from Awesome. There's a couple of videos of it on youtube if you search. I also think they've done a "stage 2" version of it now, as I came across something on the internet comparing the older and newer versions. Seems to do the job well and keeps the engine bay looking tidy!

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    I have just ordered the I.T.G induction kit from Camskill ;-)
    http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...927s3496p54316

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    As mentioned the Pipercross Venom is just new to the market and not actually available until the first week in January but the results are very good indeed!

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    This is gona be a good thread!! some people will say aw this is the best!! if they are runnin it!! and people will try to sell u junk, i would go for one that fits like OEM, people will say aw ITG is the best bec its just new, i dont think it looks that good, two of my m8,s ran the Carbonio intake and have now sold them waste of 200, i run the vf one bec it cost me 250 to make and fits like OEM and have had no problems, The evoms and ITG both cost well over 300, BSH looks (i think as if it was made up in somebodys shed) forge one sits far to close to the ground, as i work for ford as a tech i see many moded cars goin through the workshop, one can remember was a fiesta st that was runnin a k&n typhoon intake kit that sat like the forge, took in water and put a conrod through the block, The only way u will know which intake is the best is to get a car put it on the rollers with the same temp, run each intake and then u will know which is the one to buy!! if i was u i would look for one that fits like OEM and i would defo stay back from ones that sit too low to the road if i was to do it again i would go the same route i went or if off the shelf i would go for evoms from regal, hope this helps u make ur mind up sir
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    Agree with the above i have heard the carbonio ones are a waste of time,and also agree with people always say there's are the best,not seen a lot of reviews or figures on pipercross but its supposed to be ok,but at min the VF,Evoms & ITG are the ones getting the good hype

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    Has anyone had any experience with the Dbilas intake? done a search but cant find too much

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    yeah i thought bout this one when i was thinkin bout mine?? thats what most vxr,s run or cdti airboxes lol, i wasnt sure of this one bec i wanted chatter and was not sure if this would give me this??
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    Revo stg 2+ with the ITG on DD rollers, somethins workin




    08 Ibis S3, REVO stg2+, APR HPFP, Milltek TBE, ITG intake, BSH catch can, H&R springs, 19" MTM's, Lamin-x'd
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    My evoms is great, noticed a difference even before the map & the sounds it makes are mint. Now ive had the revo & forge DV it sounds awsome

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustCharlie View Post
    Revo stg 2+ with the ITG on DD rollers, somethins workin
    I bet if you swapped your intake with an EVOMS, VF, PIPERCROSS, FORGE etc the figures would be very similar. I went for the EVOMS Stage 2 the stage 2 kit replaces the standard oiled cone for a dry version and an additional fine mesh "sock". Im pretty sure most filters for the S3 run oiled filters which in time will eventually knacker the maf sensor as it becomes covered in oil, this has happened to a few people im sure. Pick a CAI which you like whether it be for how it looks, the price, or beause everyone says its the best you really cant go wrong unless you buy a carbonio as they are pants IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by david_phillips95 View Post
    I bet if you swapped your intake with an EVOMS, VF, PIPERCROSS, FORGE etc the figures would be very similar. I went for the EVOMS Stage 2 the stage 2 kit replaces the standard oiled cone for a dry version and an additional fine mesh "sock". Im pretty sure most filters for the S3 run oiled filters which in time will eventually knacker the maf sensor as it becomes covered in oil, this has happened to a few people im sure. Pick a CAI which you like whether it be for how it looks, the price, or beause everyone says its the best you really cant go wrong unless you buy a carbonio as they are pants IMO

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    I'm not convinced of the oiled filter/MAF issue, the story has been hanging around for years from the 1.8T days and I've yet to see proof. If it was true the inside of the intake/filter would be coated in oil surely yets its dry as a bone. I had a good chat with Andy the tech guy at ITG about it and he explained that its not an issue, they have tried dry and oiled filters and the oiled filters out perform them in filtration/flow overall thats why they use them. He did explain that with a dry filter the filtration isn't as good and the tiny particles that can get through are just as likely to damage the MAF.
    I've used oiled filters in my last 5 cars, 2 1.8T's and 3 TFSi's and never had an issue, just my opinion and experience of course


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    Where you buy the stage 2 evoms from? so will mine be stage one & an oil filter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustCharlie View Post
    If it was true the inside of the intake/filter would be coated in oil surely yets its dry as a bone.

    I had a good chat with Andy the tech guy at ITG about it and he explained that its not an issue

    He did explain that with a dry filter the filtration isn't as good and the tiny particles that can get through are just as likely to damage the MAF.
    The ITG filter he sells is oiled, he is not going to tell you an oiled filter isnt as good, he is obviously going to tell you its not an issue

    The particules must be invisible to the human eye as the mesh cover is so fine i cant imagine anything gettin through it, and the filter unit is very well contructed also.

    Why would regal charge an extra 30 if it wasnt worthwhile?


    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_T View Post
    Where you buy the stage 2 evoms from? so will mine be stage one & an oil filter?
    I bought mine from a user on here that was selling his S3 and had taken all his mods off. You can buy the stage 2 Evoms from regal, i do not know if they sell the dry filter and sock seperately tho. Link below:

    http://www.vag-tuner.com/acatalog/2.0TFSI.html
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    I just bought the K&N 57S-9500 for my audi a3 2010 1.4 TFSI.

    It looks great and it sound even better. It replaces the original filterbox and uses every original screws and pipes.

    Im not sure if this is an oiled filter since it didn't come with any extra oil.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by david_phillips95 View Post
    The ITG filter he sells is oiled, he is not going to tell you an oiled filter isnt as good, he is obviously going to tell you its not an issue

    The particules must be invisible to the human eye as the mesh cover is so fine i cant imagine anything gettin through it, and the filter unit is very well contructed also.

    Why would regal charge an extra 30 if it wasnt worthwhile?




    I bought mine from a user on here that was selling his S3 and had taken all his mods off. You can buy the stage 2 Evoms from regal, i do not know if they sell the dry filter and sock seperately tho. Link below:

    http://www.vag-tuner.com/acatalog/2.0TFSI.html
    I understand what your saying, but what I'm saying is they have tried BOTH, with/without the oil. Without the oil to get the same filtration the filter material needs to be more dense/finer to catch really fine particles which obviuosly affects flow. I'm not saying 1 is better than the other just pointing out the reasons I've been told they use it. from my own experience of my last 5 modded cars using oiled type filters with no MAF issues and the vast experience of the tech guy at ITG who have been making filters for years I don't see it as an issue and it probably came from some propaganda from a company which manufactures unoiled filters.

    Anyway this debate has been knocked about numerous times and I'm not sure I can be @rsed going through it all again


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    I'm glad this thread came up, as i was seriously tempted by the Carbonio ... given the comments above, I'm now not so sure!

    What are the issues with the Carbonio?

    [Edit:] Having now searched old posts about the Carbonio and Carbon Speed intakes, it seems the general is that these are a fair bit more restrictive than a cone-type filter. Although, others do seem to think they are better than standard. I still prefer the more OEM look of the carbon intakes, as opposed to a cone, and am still tempted.
    Last edited by Scott134; 30th December 2009 at 16:35. Reason: Have now searched previous posts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott134 View Post
    I'm glad this thread came up, as i was seriously tempted by the Carbonio ... given the comments above, I'm now not so sure!

    What are the issues with the Carbonio?

    [Edit:] Having now searched old posts about the Carbonio and Carbon Speed intakes, it seems the general is that these are a fair bit more restrictive than a cone-type filter. Although, others do seem to think they are better than standard. I still prefer the more OEM look of the carbon intakes, as opposed to a cone, and am still tempted.
    Think its just a panel filter in a fancy box so not any gains really

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    Quote Originally Posted by david_phillips95 View Post
    Why would regal charge an extra 30 if it wasnt worthwhile?
    Because Regal would charge you 30 for a stamp mate - always well overpriced.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustCharlie View Post
    this debate has been knocked about numerous times and I'm not sure I can be @rsed going through it all again
    Me neither - they all have pros and cons but all give similar gains. Nuff said. If you do a search for any of the major intake brands mentioned in this thread you'll find enough write-ups to keep you reading for days.
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    I did consider an itg but after reading all this... Where can I get the EVOMS from??

    8p2 2.0 tfsi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super_G View Post
    I did consider an itg but after reading all this... Where can I get the EVOMS from??

    8p2 2.0 tfsi

    cheers
    I'd say the ITG is still the best.

    The fit and finish are fine and the flow is good for 500-600bhp.

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    im not looking for flow this time... but im just so peed off with the damn engine cover... that im looking for a solution to access bits and bobs without any hassle... my project car days are numbered... im getting old.. after the jbs k04 conversion and selling that im going to pack it all up and save the money for the 2nd baby :-p the joys of marriage: "it's me or the car."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super_G View Post
    im not looking for flow this time... but im just so peed off with the damn engine cover... that im looking for a solution to access bits and bobs without any hassle... my project car days are numbered... im getting old.. after the jbs k04 conversion and selling that im going to pack it all up and save the money for the 2nd baby :-p the joys of marriage: "it's me or the car."
    I understand!.....in that case the Evoms plus cover may fit the bill nicely.
    I'm far enough past the kids stage to be in the stage where I can make the car faster and tell porkies about the cost....

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    Quote Originally Posted by S3Alex View Post
    I understand!.....in that case the Evoms plus cover may fit the bill nicely.
    I'm far enough past the kids stage to be in the stage where I can make the car faster and tell porkies about the cost....
    i tried that but she just seems to know when the car feels different!! its my fault for involving her with the first project.. and she was really interested so knows when something has been tweeked... like after the remap... i didnt give it the boot when i was with her but she borrowed it and gave it the boot herself and instantly knew... but ive stopped letting her drive it because now she just feels scared that its too fast hahaha... otherwise she can read me like a book even when i lie... "you looked to the left"!!... yeh may be im a crap liar these days.. yeh i reckon i can sneak the evoms in though without her noticing that one... wouldnt know of the best place to buy would you? cheers

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    Do you get much heat soak with an open cone filter in this engine?

 

 

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